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Eels release Kieran Foran

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Do you apologists realise what it means to be the captain of our club? What the responsibilities are? Both on and off the field? Off the field all he has given us is drama after drama. His decisions have been poor. In any other occupation he would be relieved of his duty or thrown out on his ear but because he is a footy player he gets this special dispensation. f**k him! He has a job to do. Do it and toughen up.
 

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Read all the posts before jumping. Like the one above your last dribble.

The injuries have been the only downside. All the other shit has meant nothing to our ability to win matches. Whom he hangs out with is his business. He has provided the leadership Arthur signed him for.
 

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Do you apologists realise what it means to be the captain of our club? What the responsibilities are? Both on and off the field? Off the field all he has given us is drama after drama. His decisions have been poor. In any other occupation he would be relieved of his duty or thrown out on his ear but because he is a footy player he gets this special dispensation. f**k him! He has a job to do. Do it and toughen up.

Tim Mannah is our off field captain though.
 

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The injuries have been the only downside. All the other shit has meant nothing to our ability to win matches. Whom he hangs out with is his business. He has provided the leadership Arthur signed him for.

You can't quantify that you idiot. It is speculative bullshit. He has played a handful of games. We are winning without him. It must be his half time pep talks in a sling. :crazy:

#anotherdickhead
 

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Thanks. I'll send a message to the media to stop following him off the field. Can't believe they didn't know.

#dickhead

So what should the club do? Stand him down from a role he doesn't have? He's been a great captain on the field when he's on it.
 

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To avenger defense.Hayne had how many good years before his injury struck ones? Foran came and missed his first game. Has had a few different injuries and mental issues.
Hayne worked his way from the juniours to a big pay day.Foran got a HUGE one from the start.
Foran could be the biggest flop our club has signed.The price tag means he must perform at the top and play 75% of games.Otherwise its deemed a flop.Of course unless he plays 65% of games and wins us a grand final
 

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We are a better team with Foran then without. Of course we are. But he has hardly been great. He should be in our top 3 players eachs week like cronk and thurston and smith are.
 

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To avenger defense.Hayne had how many good years before his injury struck ones? Foran came and missed his first game. Has had a few different injuries and mental issues.
Hayne worked his way from the juniours to a big pay day.Foran got a HUGE one from the start.
Foran could be the biggest flop our club has signed.The price tag means he must perform at the top and play 75% of games.Otherwise its deemed a flop.Of course unless he plays 65% of games and wins us a grand final

Yeah, because this is Forans rookie season.

EDIT: When we signed him he was considered to be one of the best halfbacks in the game, Captain of NZ, was tearing it up at Manly. That in itself has value, which explains his large price tag.

You think if we were to sign Smith or Thurston it wouldn't come with a hefty price tag?

Undoubtedly we haven't gotten our full money's worth out of him this season, duh. But I'd hardly say that constitutes calling him a dud signing or a bad player. It definitely doesn't justify calling his leadership into question when none of you are present when the team is together (during training, in the sheds, etc) to know what effect he is having on the team.

But hey, if you are, feel free to let us know. I don't want to hear what your "mates" tell you though.
 
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I've held fire for the most part in this thread. I will say from the get go that I hope Foran recovers fully from his shoulder injury and can have a massive 2017 season and beyond for the Eels.

However - I have to say that I'm with Avenger in being disappointed with some of the things we now know about his "personal time" away from the game. Most obviously the associating with Heyson in QLD while he was up there getting getting treatment. I've seen people comment along the lines "How do we know he skipped out on his treatment? Maybe it was out-patient care and he was just hanging out with a mate during his own time which he's entitled to do"... Maybe so, but he needs to be questioning the company he keeps IMO. Hanging around these sorts of shady characters is just not going to end well in the long run. Look at Ben Cousins and some of those Collingwood merkins - hanging around underworld figures and bikers etc. For Cousins it triggered a downward spiral he is still on, it has basically ruined his life.

There will be plenty here who will say that I'm over dramatising the situation with Heyson, but frankly, there's a stink about the guy and I don't understand why any decent person with plenty to lose would want to keep that sort of company... For a someone who seemed, on the surface, to be a level headed stand up guy, Foran has exhibited some extremely poor judgement here and it should be dealt with quick smart. Nothing to do with the Parra footy club, this is all on Keiran and he needs to grow up a bit IMO.
 

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You can't quantify that you idiot. It is speculative bullshit. He has played a handful of games. We are winning without him. It must be his half time pep talks in a sling. :crazy:

#anotherdickhead

Leadership is about setting an example, and clearly Foran puts his personal issues behind him when he steps onto the field or into the gym. Or do you think mental illness makes him a weak merkin?
 

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Leadership is about setting an example, and clearly Foran puts his personal issues behind him when he steps onto the field or into the gym. Or do you think mental illness makes him a weak merkin?

Leadership is more than on field. It's off it too. Off it he has made poor decisions which have made our club look like a bigger basket case than it already is. (If that's possible).
 

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Yeah, because this is Forans rookie season.

EDIT: When we signed him he was considered to be one of the best halfbacks in the game, Captain of NZ, was tearing it up at Manly. That in itself has value, which explains his large price tag.

You think if we were to sign Smith or Thurston it wouldn't come with a hefty price tag?

Undoubtedly we haven't gotten our full money's worth out of him this season, duh. But I'd hardly say that constitutes calling him a dud signing or a bad player. It definitely doesn't justify calling his leadership into question when none of you are present when the team is together (during training, in the sheds, etc) to know what effect he is having on the team.

But hey, if you are, feel free to let us know. I don't want to hear what your "mates" tell you though.

For our club yes it is. Put Hayne average wage for games played and it would work out very reasonable
Put Forans and its more like 200k a game.

Foran was riddled with injuries last year also
 

hindy111

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Leadership is about setting an example, and clearly Foran puts his personal issues behind him when he steps onto the field or into the gym. Or do you think mental illness makes him a weak merkin?

People with Mental illness are not weak but perhaps do not need the added pressure of leadership and extra responsibility so they can worry more about themselves and not have to focus on others as well .
 

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