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Eels Salary Cap MK II

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Delboy

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Again emjaycee, the honorarium is a storm in a teacup stirred by the Telecrap and the emperor, who it must be said was not averse to large rises

Whatever happens as a result of these rather insignificant issues, which seem to have a life of their own, far in excess of the obvious but ignored discrepancies at the Broncs and Cowgirrls in particular. You know, the old well who knows what properties are worth in Townsville and the Manager won't speak to us , so we can't take it any further

FMD,, if they we going to pursue the Eels and punish them. I just want to see similar forensic investigations at all clubs. Perhaps then the scales of any justice would be seen to be even handed
 

phantom eel

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I trust your not insinuating that I am one of these destabilisers with an agenda to run down the current Board
Why be so paranoid...? What in any of my posts on the issue gives the idea I'm making anything other than a comment on the general state of fan reactions on here? :crazy:

I have no agenda except to ensure that IF the NRL comes down hard on us, we as members of the PLC and concerned supporters of the club we all love, do not see our club set back into the dark ages of yesteryear.
What does that mean? And how does a 4 point penalty set our club back to the "dark days of yesteryear"? I would imagine that a change in Board is more of a risk of sending us back to dark days, but that's exactly what some people on here seem to be clamouring for? At the end of the day, this year's team/squad can cover for a 4pt penalty easily, if it comes to that.

In my experience, that means we need to be prepared for all eventualities and have a plan to deal with whatever may come our way.
So what's the plan? My suggestion is "keep calm and carry on supporting the team/club".
 

phantom eel

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No no emjayce... It's over and done with Bart thinks we're over reacting therefore I now expect not to lose any more points and everything's sweet...
No Stags. I think you're over-reacting even if we do lose 4 points.

I won't be posting anymore about this until the NRL reveal their findings and hand down whatever punishment ( if any ) on the club...
Thanks goodness for that! :lol:
 

phantom eel

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As both boards are the same, the effect is an increase to the overall honorariums each person receives but technically it did not breach any members decisions and was within the right of the PNRL Board to decide.
So there's no issue there then? Pity the Telegraph don't nip the hysteria in the bud, and pity Stags lists this as (the only valid) one of his grievances with the current board - but he's not over-reacting :sarcasm:.
 

El Diablo

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...itchell-changed-his-name-20160402-gnwo0b.html

Eels celebration scrapped

Plans to celebrate Parramatta's Auckland Nines triumph with a civic reception have been scrapped.

Parramatta Lord Mayor and Eels director Paul Garrard has aborted plans to mark the pre-season triumph, a rare bright spot for a club that has now gone 30 years without a premiership.

"I just want to celebrate our next [grand final] win," Garrard said.

"There will be time enough in the future for street parades and I will take great pleasure in organising those."

Despite a strong start to the season, most long-suffering Eels fans aren't in a festive mood. Parramatta officials are likely to learn the club's fate this week, with the NRL close to finalising its investigations into alleged salary cap rorting.

There is a feeling that competition points will be docked to make a strong statement to other clubs considering breaking the rules. The NRL is considering what constitutes an appropriate sanction, but a fine alone won't affect the changes the club needs, as the leagues club can easily cut another cheque. Which is why the governing body will likely want heads to roll to rid the club of the officials holding it back.

The situation marks the first real test for new NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg, who has made it clear the integrity of the competition is paramount.
 

oldmancraigy

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Again emjaycee, the honorarium is a storm in a teacup stirred by the Telecrap and the emperor, who it must be said was not averse to large rises

Whatever happens as a result of these rather insignificant issues, which seem to have a life of their own, far in excess of the obvious but ignored discrepancies at the Broncs and Cowgirrls in particular. You know, the old well who knows what properties are worth in Townsville and the Manager won't speak to us , so we can't take it any further

FMD,, if they we going to pursue the Eels and punish them. I just want to see similar forensic investigations at all clubs. Perhaps then the scales of any justice would be seen to be even handed

Agree with this.

They did no wrong by the rules, sad it was misreported then.
And this wil have nothing to do with any potential breach (I am yet to hear anything damning).
 

Chipmunk

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You do understand that some companies are wholly owned (or otherwise controlled) subsidiaries of other companies? Have a look at most listed companies in the world....within the consolidated group there are often dozens (hundreds) of separate legal entities.

If you could get around the TPA rules by simply interposing a separate legal entity, for the cost of $800 registration every player in the comp could have a TPA from a TP directly associated with the club.

But I would guarantee you that if a club had Coles as a sponsor and a player got a sponsorship from Bunnings no one would care.

It's essentially no different.
 
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But I would guarantee you that if a club had Coles as a sponsor and a player got a sponsorship from Bunnings no one would care.

It's essentially no different.

II'm not sure that it is the same. One issue is whether the TPA was negotiated at arms length from the sponsor. The likelihood of that not being so is much greater for smaller, private companies. And even more so for private companies where the major equity holders are blood relations. I don't think this blackcitrus thing is necessarily a big deal.....but it's not as cut and dried as many seem to want to believe.

If you took this issue to its extreme, you'd imagine that Telstra / Optus wouldn't be able to sponsor players if they provided telephony service to a club. But, in that case, it would be pretty simple to show that the provision of services was at arms length, and on the same commercial basis as provided to similar customers.
 
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Again emjaycee, the honorarium is a storm in a teacup stirred by the Telecrap and the emperor, who it must be said was not averse to large rises

Whatever happens as a result of these rather insignificant issues, which seem to have a life of their own, far in excess of the obvious but ignored discrepancies at the Broncs and Cowgirrls in particular. You know, the old well who knows what properties are worth in Townsville and the Manager won't speak to us , so we can't take it any further

FMD,, if they we going to pursue the Eels and punish them. I just want to see similar forensic investigations at all clubs. Perhaps then the scales of any justice would be seen to be even handed

Well, when other clubs have disgruntled from staff and associates happy to spill the beans to play their stupid, self-interested games, then the NRL will have at least have a choice. In the absence of that happening, what exactly do you want the NRL to do to the other clubs? They have no legal right to access private info from the the TPs. As dodgy as the Broncs and Cowboys situations sound (though I'm not too sure about the Cowboys one.....the quoted values didn't seem too out of whack to me), you need a whistleblower if someone is going to get busted. We seem to have an arsenal of them.

A culture where we whinge about other clubs, blame the NRL for picking on us, Fred Flintstone, the previous board or Pou etc for what is essentially our own self-inflicted problem will never lead to long-run success.
 

Gary Gutful

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A culture where we whinge about other clubs, blame the NRL for picking on us, Fred Flintstone, the previous board or Pou etc for what is essentially our own self-inflicted problem will never lead to long-run success.

Absolutely spot on.

There have been some good signs of late but let it never be forgotten that it was our own stupid fault that we got into the shit in the first place.
 

phantom eel

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Noise

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Kent on triple m just said the NRLs decision will be handed down this week with a fine and points deduction being the outcome. Didn't say how many points.
 

Kornstar

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Kent on triple m just said the NRLs decision will be handed down this week with a fine and points deduction being the outcome. Didn't say how many points.

I bet you could tell he was smiling from ear to ear too?

f**k I hate him!
 

phantom eel

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Probably because we've done very little wrong, other than committed a technical breach of a TPA system which sorely needs it's rules clarified and tightened/loosened/something.

Stay Blue, Stay Gold, Stay United :D.

#deathridersgoelsewhere
 

hineyrulz

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At least they aren't forcing us to remove a democratically elected board.
Yeah hooray for that, i'd much rather the team i follow to lose points :roll:

Thank god this fantastic board with their good governance and stuff will be able to continue the outstanding work they have been doing........
 
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