Eels Salary Cap MK II

[eels_fan]

Until the NRL findings are delivered, and the basis of what has occurred in truth and not based on media agenda/speculation, there should be no talk of a no-confidence vote.

 

[Gronk]

See my post in membershio thread about privatization. ..

 

[El Diablo]

http://www.triplem.com.au/sydney/sp...eaturing-josh-massoud-and-liam-cox-round-six/

Tackle Four – Integrity Unit gets heavy

The Integrity Unit’s conduct during the Eels investigation has hardly been impeccable. We’ve been privy to several accounts of pressure upon potential witnesses and informants.

Many hold positions or interests elsewhere in the game; beyond their dealings with Parramatta. Some are service providers, some sponsors, some staff.

Integrity Unit representatives have not been afraid to remind them how those relationships could be compromised by a failure to co-operate.

 

[eels_fan]

What a s**tstorm..

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

http://www.triplem.com.au/sydney/sp...eaturing-josh-massoud-and-liam-cox-round-six/

The IU members are compromised by the Eels failing to cooperate? Or by themselves failing to cooperate? With who, the IU reps?

 

[phantom eel]

Is the tide turning? There's a distinct lack of pitchfork-inspired drama llama action in this thread today... :lol:

Reading through today's replies, it almost seems that people here are starting to realise the Telegraph (and the people that leak to it) have been dining out on 2013 material, relating to minor concerns about contracts/TPAs put in place prior when to the current administration came to power... :crazy:

Is that all they've got? Is that all this is about? We've been cooperating with the NRL since the first enquiry, and righting the past wrongs as they've been identified. So at most a technical breach re the tangled entities of the Watmought TPA not being checked? Why on earth would any of this cost us a points deduction?

Oh, but... "sack the board" anyway, right? :sarcasm:

 

[phantom eel]

Until the NRL findings are delivered, and the basis of what has occurred in truth and not based on media agenda/speculation, there should be no talk of a no-confidence vote.

Indeed.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Is the tide turning? There's a distinct lack of pitchfork-inspired drama llama action in this thread today... :lol:

Reading through today's replies, it almost seems that people here are starting to realise the Telegraph (and the people that leak to it) have been dining out on 2013 material, relating to minor concerns about contracts/TPAs put in place prior when to the current administration came to power... :crazy:

Is that all they've got? Is that all this is about? We've been cooperating with the NRL since the first enquiry, and righting the past wrongs as they've been identified. So at most a technical breach re the tangled entities of the Watmought TPA not being checked? Why on earth would any of this cost us a points deduction?

Oh, but... "sack the board" anyway, right? :sarcasm:

I don't think people have just worked out today that the DT are a bunch of untrustworthy merkins.

 

[eels_fan]

Phil actually put up a quite poignant post today over at TheFilthySpammers.

There becomes a point where the constant, relentless & largely factless bashing of your club changes you from being in and initial position of concern (sack the board) to actually unifying and strengthening your resolve (f**k the media). The 'leakers' and 'faceless instigators' are now harming their destabilising campaign because everyone has had enough of all the rubbish negativity.

 

[Avenger]

I still don't think we will lose points. How this is worse to the Cowboys scandal about cheap housing about a year ago is hard to see. Also did the Sharks lose points when half of their squad was using peptides? They only copped fines and the players got sanctioned with a feather duster but the club did not lose points. This is the precedent I would use to defend the club. I'd take them head on and seek an injunction in the courts if they stripped us of one point let alone 10!

We are easily in the top 3 biggest clubs in the NRL in terms of what the NRL need most: ratings!! We shouldn't just lie down and take it. The club comes first if the only way to avoid a reduction in points is to change the board. Then so be it. However losing points should be fought at the highest level and not be accepted under any circumstances.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

I still don't think we will lose points. How this is worse to the Cowboys scandal about cheap housing about a year ago is hard to see

Um. I have no idea whether we'll lose points, but...... Where is the evidence that the Cowboys actually provided cheap housing (outside cap limits) to the players? An associate of the club sold them property, but where is the evidence that it was below market? I've seen not one scrap of evidence that the properties were sold below market (at purchase date). Some articles reported the purchase price and the 2015 price of properties.

 

[Gronk]

They didnt investigate it baz. They didnt check values of land sold nor did they acertain building costs or actually verify anything. The integrity unit was never involved.

They never checked that land was transferred at market value. They never checked if building costs were at market or if players actually paid for what was constructed. Greenberg flew up and cleared them same day.

The below article just says that they will investigate it further if new info arises.



http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...i/news-story/d2c79a468e7ae22958213684f787035b

 

[hineyrulz]

Is the tide turning? There's a distinct lack of pitchfork-inspired drama llama action in this thread today... :lol:

Reading through today's replies, it almost seems that people here are starting to realise the Telegraph (and the people that leak to it) have been dining out on 2013 material, relating to minor concerns about contracts/TPAs put in place prior when to the current administration came to power... :crazy:

Is that all they've got? Is that all this is about? We've been cooperating with the NRL since the first enquiry, and righting the past wrongs as they've been identified. So at most a technical breach re the tangled entities of the Watmought TPA not being checked? Why on earth would any of this cost us a points deduction?

Oh, but... "sack the board" anyway, right? :sarcasm:

Are you saying that the media have an agenda???

Well I never :shock: thank goodness this place has such a thought provoking poster as yourself Bart otherwise we would be totally lost..........

 

[hineyrulz]

Um. I have no idea whether we'll lose points, but...... Where is the evidence that the Cowboys actually provided cheap housing (outside cap limits) to the players? An associate of the club sold them property, but where is the evidence that it was below market? I've seen not one scrap of evidence that the properties were sold below market (at purchase date). Some articles reported the purchase price and the 2015 price of properties.

He wasn't an associate of the club he was the chairman, he's one of the bigger property developers in Nth QLD. And as Gronk has stated they barely even looked into this.

I'd hope all clubs are under as much scrutiny as us.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

More crap leaked:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/su...3202fa929c1e53180c6c52f57de&memtype=anonymous

It's behind a paywall.

It's getting worse with personal info being leaked.

 

[hineyrulz]

They didnt investigate it baz. They didnt check values of land sold nor did they acertain building costs or actually verify anything. The integrity unit was never involved.

They never checked that land was transferred at market value. They never checked if building costs were at market or if players actually paid for what was constructed. Greenberg flew up and cleared them same day.

The below article just says that they will investigate it further if new info arises.



http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...i/news-story/d2c79a468e7ae22958213684f787035b

Greenburg such a trustworthy character

 

[hineyrulz]

Can someone paste that article because there is no way I'm giving them scumbags a click.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

They didnt investigate it baz. They didnt check values of land sold nor did they acertain building costs or actually verify anything. The integrity unit was never involved.

They never checked that land was transferred at market value. They never checked if building costs were at market or if players actually paid for what was constructed. Greenberg flew up and cleared them same day.

The below article just says that they will investigate it further if new info arises.



http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...i/news-story/d2c79a468e7ae22958213684f787035b

Can you tell me where that article says that they didn't investigate in the first place? The statement that they will investigate further if new info arises does not imply that they didn't investigate previously. Where is there even a suggestion that property was sold below market?

 

[Gronk]

NRL head of football Todd Greenberg and integrity-unit boss Nick Weeks were in Townsville on Monday as part of a standard review of each club’s operations.

It is understood Lancini used the meeting to address any salary-cap concerns, with Weeks confirming on Tuesday the NRL’s ethical watchdog will not take action against the Cowboys.

“As any new information becomes available it will be reviewed by the auditors,” he said.

The Cowboys last night offered to comply with any further NRL salary-cap probe should fresh evidence arise.

Hardly a forensic investigation. Did they obtain independent valuations on land transferred ? Did they ascertain evidence that a money trail actually existed for each land purchase ? Did they examine building contracts ? Did they ascertain evidence that a money trail actually existed for each progress payment under construction contracts ? Did they ascertain if the quality of the fit out was in accordance with the schedule of finishes in the construction contracts ?

No they flew up and had and chat and flew back.

The allegations were that players were receiving land under market and houses were being built without remuneration or the houses were paid for basic design but a luxury house was built instead. Clearly a thorough investigation was warranted ? No it seems that unless the media provide the NRL with a smoking gun, they do f**k all.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Hardly a forensic investigation. Did they obtain independent valuations on land transferred ? Did they ascertain evidence that a money trail actually existed for each land purchase ? Did they examine building contracts ? Did they ascertain evidence that a money trail actually existed for each progress payment under construction contracts ? Did they ascertain if the quality of the fit out was in accordance with the schedule of finishes in the construction contracts ?

No they flew up and had and chat and flew back.

The allegations were that players were receiving land under market and houses were being building on they without remuneration or the houses were paid for basic design but a luxury house was built instead. Clearly a thorough investigation was warranted ? No it seems that unless the media provide the NRL with a smoking gun, they do f**k all.

I'll ask you the same question again. Why does the fact that they didn't conduct a fresh investigation while doing their 'regular visit' mean that they conducted no investigation in earlier years? Show me the allegations to which you refer.