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Eels Salary Cap MK III

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strider

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Yeah. We did have a bunch of meat but would you believe it, the bloody freezer went on the blink. Such a waste.

Either that or services I guess, but I'm no expert.

Air ... we could buy some air ... then tell em we have stored it in the cumberland lounge ... wouldnt be the slighest bit dodgy :sarcasm:
 

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Watching the footy show. The journos said the NRL have been embarrassed by the eels. Also said they believe the eels are only 200k over and Shubert will go to the NRL tomorrow and prove it. So Avenger seems on the money with a reduction. You can take 12 points away for 200k?
I would laugh if he NRL have bungled this up.

If the NRL have f**ked this up that badly, then we should be demanding a very public explanation of their ineptness

Id also be asking the NRL to publicly justy their $3m breach claim - and if (when) they cant, i would expect a massive apology ... every merkin in the country has our players running around with brown paper bags full of cash because of that farcical press conference
 

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This is from Robert "Crash" Craddock and Brisbane cricket/sports journo who appears on the BackPage.

Dodgy salary cap deals have long been par for the course in NRL

DID you hear the one about the rugby league official who just loved losing at golf?

Especially around player contract time.

As a contract sweetener, he would take a player out on the golf course then, after losing, would return to the clubhouse to pay up.

“Now, what was our bet again ... $20,000?’’ he would ask the player, who would look stunned because he thought it was a scratch round.

Then, of course, the penny would drop. What better way to hand over a dodgy contract payment than to make it part of a golf bet.

Had the salary cap investigators caught on, which they never did, the duo could have laughed off the inquiry with “How can you seriously say a golf bet is part of the salary cap?’’

Welcome to the shady world of player contract deals that will come into sharp focus over the next two days if, as expected, Parramatta get docked up to eight points for deliberately rorting the cap.

The sad story of Kieran Foran’s woes has shunted the salary cap issue into the background but it will now burst back into the spotlight.

The brazenness of the Eels’ breaches said a lot about the confidence they had of getting away with it like many others have before them.

Not so lucky was the player who thought the best way to stash a $50,000 payment was to put it in his attic, only to find that he told too many people and was robbed.

Unfortunately house insurance does not cover money received in brown papers bags, so our man had to bite his lip and carry on.

One player who had more luck was the one who sat in his house for a few days and watched a landscaping firm go to work in his backyard in a scene that could have been stolen from the series Backyard Blitz.

Down went the lawn, in went the trees, up went the shrubs.

The bill was absorbed by the club and salary cap investigators never saw the wood for the trees.

The reaction to the Eels’ penalty will be interesting.

These things tend to follow a revealing pattern.

The first is that when the penalty is handed down, many rival club officials become harder to find than Santa Claus in June.

That has a lot to do with those two old sayings: “there but for the grace of god go us’’ and “let he without guilt throw the first stone’’.

When it comes to salary cap breaches, many administrators have secrets and skeletons.

Pointing the finger at others is a risky business.

The day Melbourne Storm got busted in April 2010 by rorting the cap by almost $4 million it was as if every mobile phone network in the country had a major seizure.

Many rival club officials refused to answer their phones. When news broke about the Storm, one rival official rang them and said “Haven’t you blokes heard of brown paper bags?’’

Plenty of others had.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...l/news-story/784c71157833a93a8bda070ad8f358d2
 
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Swiftstylez

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If the NRL have f**ked this up that badly, then we should be demanding a very public explanation of their ineptness

Id also be asking the NRL to publicly justy their $3m breach claim - and if (when) they cant, i would expect a massive apology ... every merkin in the country has our players running around with brown paper bags full of cash because of that farcical press conference

On the last point the NRL has somehow managed to convince the public that we are as bad as the Storm and the Bulldogs without the public knowing anything about the nature of the findings even before the sanctions were proposed. They didn't squash any of the media reaction so they must have endorsed it. Some people must tune into NRL 360 like it is a sermon
 
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Up to 8 points that article says. Does he know something we don't? Going off what I've seen of him on that show after Kent's, I'm guessing not, unfortunately.
 

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Kent on TripleM was frothing about this and said that the "softening" is becoming to look like there was a deal done.

I don't believe that for a second OTHER than respective legal teams having off the record meetings in chambers. Perhaps we have pointed out some errors at law that the NRL have not considered or did but thought we would not threaten them with ?

Unlike some who think we should just roll over, I am glad that we are exploring all avenues, even if we end up with no reduction.

Kent said that the GO5 seeking the extension from 5 to 28 days will only harm the club in the end by making the penalties even harsher, was transparent agenda dribble.

Interestingly, Gordon Tallis said that he thought that we are being harshly treated. He did not expand, but I assume he is talking from experience about how dodgy TPAs are throughout NRL land (which he has stated previously).


From the outset Tallis has been in the eels corner (against certain media going for he clubs jugular) even brought in a comparison a while ago when they were doing Team reports after round 6 or 7 and Kent refused to rank the eels. Tallis said he would rather play against a team over the cap than play a team busted for drugs (pinned on the Sharks for an example). He said as far as he's concerned you get paid what you get paid and don't ask your team mates what they're on. Simple. He's been pretty level headed in this whole saga.
 

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Up to 8 points that article says. Does he know something we don't? Going off what I've seen of him on that show after Kent's, I'm guessing not, unfortunately.

It reads like an old article, possible last week?....Talking as if the decision hasn't been made and the week of the Foran drama
 

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It sounds like the NRL found some dodgy tpa's and all of a sudden ruled all of them are illegal. So I hope for the NRL case they can prove ALL are illegal which I highly doubt it. Parra would win this battle in a court of law you would think.
 

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Parramatta Eels have 'all eggs in one basket' over salary cap sanctions

Parramatta’s playing group are hopeful injury-struck forward Anthony Watmough will be the only person jettisoned from the NRL club as a result of the Eels’ salary cap crisis.

The Eels have been told they need to shave $570,000 off their player payments to be under the salary cap for Friday’s clash against South Sydney. If Parramatta can’t do that, any premiership points they earn against the Rabbitohs will likely be docked as part of the NRL’s sanctions against the club for their alleged salary cap breaches.

Watmough has said he would retire due to a chronic knee injury if that alleviates the Eels’ situation. The former representative forward’s yearly salary is said to be around $650,000 and it is up to the NRL as to how much of that will come off the cap.

Eels club captain Tim Mannah said at training on Sunday he hoped Watmough’s retirement would in itself make the club salary cap compliant again. “At the moment we all have our eggs in that one basket,” Mannah said.

“Because it is not like we are trying to do anything outside the rules. He has done an injury that has cost him his career, we are just hoping that can get sorted sooner rather than later and hopefully that is all that needs to happen.”

The Eels have registered papers with the NRL for Watmough’s injury to be considered as career ending. He suffered the injury at pre-season in February and any player payments could be backdated to then.

Eels back-rower Beau Scott said he wasn’t sure if any players other than Watmough would have to exit Parramatta to squeeze them under the salary cap. “I don’t really know, I guess we will wait and see,” he said.

A final decision on sanctions from the NRL, which include provisional penalties of a 12-point deduction, a $1 million fine and the deregistration of five officials, is expected to be handed down in mid-June.

Mannah said those five officials – chairman Steve Sharp, chief executive John Boulous, head of football Daniel Anderson, deputy chairman Tom Issa and director Peter Serrao – should be afforded some respect and the opportunity to defend themselves against the allegations.

The five will return to the NSW Supreme Court on Monday as they challenge the legality of the suspensions handed down to them by the NRL, who say they are key figures in the Eels’ alleged salary cap rorting that blew out their player talent spend by $3 million since 2013.

“These guys are human as well, they deserve a bit of respect and to be given the benefit of doubt until the findings are handed down,” Mannah said. “It is easy for you or I to point the finger and say what we think is going wrong but unless we have all the details and know exactly what happened there is no real point in us commentating [further].

“When you are in their position it is a lot harder because they obviously know a lot more than we do.”

Mannah said players had been addressed by members of the club’s embattled board since NRL CEO Todd Greenberg informed them of the provisional sanctions laid against the Eels on Tuesday over allegations of salary cap indiscretions.

Parramatta have until 3 June to respond to the breach notice they were given on Tuesday. It is expected the NRL will make their final decision on the matter two weeks after that.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...-eggs-in-one-basket-over-salary-cap-sanctions
 
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So the NRL wants to replace our board, they have some info but not enough to go against us with 3rd party deals they are illegal, so they leak some of it to the telegraph, the most incriminating stuff with nothing to explain it or to show if they deals even went ahead. Telegraph asked to make it look like they are biggest salary caps cheats in history and to compare it to the storm and dogs.
So then the public and other clubs all think we are massive cheats and should not play for points for this year.
So the public through the media want the eels board sacked and the eels out of the finals.
NRL know they don't have enough evidence but if the add some 3rd party deals for the last few years that we have already been fined for and then add all this years 3rd party deals weather they are illegal of not and make us over $500k over the cap then it looks like they are being light by only taking the points we have got and let us play for points once we release some players to get under.
Now the eels management have had a look and know that the nrl figures don't add up so they are challenging it, now NRL want the public to think they are right so the will leak a bit for info to the telegraph to make it sound like the said board members are just looking after themselves and now the members want them sacked.
NRL won't release full details so they still look like they were firm with the punishment but not too strong as they want the club to succeed in the long term.
Now when the eels go to the NRL Monday with their figures what else will be leaked to the telegraph?
Have you noticed Fairfax press now seems to be more open with their reports not just cheats cheats cheats like they were and the telegraph is.
Interesting week coming up.
Did the NRL just think the club would cop it on the chin with out looking into it and the board members and CEO just walk away?
Did they expect that the eels members would just want the 5, who the NRL claim caused all this, them gone? And start a motion for a EGM? Did they NRL understand it could take 2 months such EGM to happen if it ever does?
I really wonder who the NRL got legal advice from, and did hey check the club's act of NSW.
Interesting week ahead......
 
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I wouldn't be so sure that it's necessarily the NRL doing all the leaking. I'd say there's a fair chance that the Telegraph's source includes people closer to home with an axe to grind.
 
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I wouldn't be so sure that it's necessarily the NRL doing all the leaking. I'd say there's a fair chance that the Telegraph's source includes people closer to home with an axe to grind.

Could be a bit of both.
Maybe the leaker is also in cohorts with the NRL?
Working together they could both get what they want.
 

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Can someone explain to me the circumstances behind the NRL's request (to the court) for the 60 page doc to be confidential ? Why now are they so worried about leaks when they have kept their hands in their pockets and watched News Ltd go to town on us over the past few months ?
 

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If it's proved we are only 200k over the cap. What would be the penalty regarding points deduction ?
 
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