Eels Salary Cap MK III

[phantom eel]

At the end of the day schuey se ms pretty chilled about the situation and believes it will happen so maybe we've got to sit back and trust his word on it

What a great idea... I wish I'd come up with that a week ago... :sarcasm:

 

[Swiftstylez]

How is the penalty for a dodgy TPA worse than a team taking peptides???? Couldn't they have just made Watmough sit out for 4 weeks

The NRL must really hate their own f**ked system

 

[phantom eel]

has Jodeci got his 101 sigs yet?

:lol:

He's not even a member anymore, after his appalling stunts during the last election .

 

[Stagger eel]

:lol:

He's not even a member anymore, after his appalling stunts during the last election .

I didn't know throwing your hat in the ring constitutes an 'appealing stunt' .....

 

[phantom eel]

I didn't know throwing your hat in the ring constitutes an 'appealing stunt' .....

The appalling stunt was not simply nominating... it was what went on on the website he registered, that resulting in his Club membership being suspended.

As referred to here: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...k=2ee38935e118d0c8e58481df647ec39c-1462784918

XXXXX ran for the Leagues Club board last year with former player Ben Smith, but he was suspended for 18 months under the code of conduct for running a campaign website outlining what was wrong with the current board.

And "Outlining what was wrong with the current board" is putting things rather nicely... Anyone who saw the original site before it was ordered to be cleaned up knows wat type of people were "throwing their hats in the ring".

As a result I would never support a push for 101 signatures by one of those characters.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

in the year they were committed

Why would you restrict it to that? Or is that simply because it's the Eels in this situation and not the STorm? How much of a punishment would it be to take points off the Eels last few seasons?

 

[The Phelan Folly]

I'll make a prediction & say that the NRL will accept our compliancy by Friday, let us go on a big emotional run to the finals - lots of crowd support, tv ratings, news paper articles "can they do it?", so on and so forth.

And then the ref's will smash us when it matters & we'll fall agonisingly short. But we'll all feel good because we had a red hot go, & everyone else will be happy that we didnt taint the finals series with our odour.

Theres no way I can se the NRL allowing us to play finals, the outrage would be off the scale.

 

[Gronk]

Meanwhile, five Parramatta officials are again under NRL suspension after the NSW Supreme Court lifted an injunction order, but the group can still work on the club's response to its salary cap breach notice.

Eels chairman Steve Sharp, chief executive John Boulous, head of football Daniel Anderson, deputy chairman Tom Issa and director Peter Serrao will be limited to basic "fiduciary and statutory obligations" at the club.

The NRL initially suspended the quintet's registrations last Tuesday, indicating it plans to cancel them, when it handed down its provisional sanctions over the Eels salary cap scandal on Friday, before the five men successfully sought an injunction hours later.

The court's decision on Monday has reinstated the suspensions.

So is it safe to say that the GO5 don't need to resign, however they have been suspended (rather than their accreditation cancelled) and can't work with the team other than routine admin ?

 

[Jake the snake]

:lol:

He's not even a member anymore, after his appalling stunts during the last election .

Least he had a go because he cares for the club. What have you done ?

 

[hindmarshisgod]

This is so very exciting

 

[phantom eel]

I have a simple 2 part question, that I know won't get an official answer...

Did we (any of our current Board and/or Exec) KNOWINGLY attempt to break the salary cap compliance rules in order to exceed the salary cap limit and if so, do we as supporters think this is okay?

My guess (from what has been presented in public so far - and today's supreme court decision to end the named 5's injunction against suspension) is yes to teh first part, and my thoughts on the second part are no.

Now that Schubert appears confident the cap compliance issue will be sorted out to allow us to play for points on Friday, the Club admin's focus can then go to our written response to the breach notice, for which were were granted an extension fo 28 days and which I know think is due on 2 June.

If the NRL counted some TPAs twice, if the NRL got some figures wrong etc - that's where the club needs to outline our case for a reduced points penalty/fine amount - not in some distracting pie in the sky court case later in the year.

If the NRL have wrongly included any one of the named 5 directors/officers - and the Supreme Court's decision to end their inunction today indicates that's potentially less likely than it seemed last week - then the written response is where the club needs to outline our case for who wasn't involved and hence doesn't deserve the deregistration penalty - not in some distracting pie in the sky court case later in the year.

Schubert's work in ensuring accurate cap calculations for our compliance in time for Friday aside, on the surface it doesn't seem to me to be in dispute that the club has erred in the three key factors named by the NRL in their media release accompanying their intitial breach findings:
* Paying players undisclosed remuneration from its own resources
* Procuring third party agreements for players in breach of the salary cap rules
* Conspiring with club suppliers to inflate or issue fictitious invoices to raise cash that was then relayed to players.

We can expect the NRL to take two weeks to consider our written repsonse to the breach notice and that they will hand down their final penalties in mid-June. Our written submission may result in reductions in the 9intended penalties - less points deducted, a smaller fine, or less than 5 directors/officials de-registered. Or it may not.

After we receive our medicine, the Club then has to get on with nominating its three independent directors by (end of?) August, to satisfy the actions that we have agreed with the NRL as a result of last year's investigation into and review of our governance. f**k wastng time and members money on a court case - and causing further distraction to our coach and our squad - when we've been afforded due process and 28 days to compose our breach response to try and gain a penalty reduction.

 

[Stagger eel]

The appalling stunt was not simply nominating... it was what went on on the website he registered, that resulting in his Club membership being suspended.

As referred to here: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...k=2ee38935e118d0c8e58481df647ec39c-1462784918

And "Outlining what was wrong with the current board" is putting things rather nicely... Anyone who saw the original site before it was ordered to be cleaned up knows wat type of people were "throwing their hats in the ring".

As a result I would never support a push for 101 signatures by one of those characters.

Fancy telling the truth huh?

Appalling stunt :lol:...

 

[phantom eel]

So is it safe to say that the GO5 don't need to resign, however they have been suspended (rather than their accreditation cancelled) and can't work with the team other than routine admin ?

That's my understanding - the need for them to re-sign/be de-registered from their PNRL duties is a pending/proposed penalty, that will be decided/come into force when the NRL delivers its final findings.

The final findings/decision is now expected two weeks after our written response to breach notice is due (ie in mid-June, two weeks after the extended deadline for our response due 2 June).

 

[Stagger eel]

:lol:

He's not even a member anymore, after his appalling stunts during the last election .

That's correct, that's why he's not organizing the EGM..

 

[phantom eel]

Fancy telling the truth huh?

Appalling stunt :lol:...

Well if it was libellious/slanderous, and was forced to be removed from the website, and his membership suspended as a reslt - then yes that's an appalling stunt by any degree.

Characters/non-members like that who choose to "throw their hat" into the media at a time of club crisis to try and drum up 101 member signatures for their own ends have displayed their true colours for those capable of seeing them.

At least Fitzy is a member, with some right to front the media about his take on our situation... what was this discredited clown's excuse?

 

[Jake the snake]

Fancy telling the truth huh?

Appalling stunt :lol:...

Yep Jodeci told the truth and got bagged for it. Phantom the moron backed the current mob to the hilt who have lost us all our points and a million dollar fine. Yet he still bags Jodeci. It's still everyone else's fault lol

#goodgovernance

 

[hineyrulz]

Least he had a go because he cares for the club. What have you done ?

He can't even get off his arse to go to ANZ and watch the team because he doesn't get his favourite seat

And he has the hide to bag someone willing to have a go :lol:

 

[phantom eel]

That's correct, that's why he's not organizing the EGM..

I'm sure one of Roy Spags' other back room buddies (that is still a valid member) will take up that torch when the time comes... :roll:

 

[Stagger eel]

Well if it was libellious/slanderous, and was forced to be removed from the website, and his membership suspended as a reslt - then yes that's an appalling stunt by any degree.

Characters/non-members like that who choose to "throw their hat" into the media at a time of club crisis to try and drum up 101 member signatures for their own ends have displayed their true colours for those capable of seeing them.

At least Fitzy is a member, with some right to front the media about his take on our situation... what was this discredited clown's excuse?

So do you know for certain he rang or contacted the media for a quote?

By the way was libelous/slanderous to a board who ultimately and single handily put our club in crises??... Please.

 

[phantom eel]

Yep Jodeci told the truth and got bagged for it. Phantom the moron backed the current mob to the hilt who have lost us all our points and a million dollar fine. Yet he still bags Jodeci. It's still everyone else's fault lol

#goodgovernance

He can't even get off his arse to go to ANZ and watch the team because he doesn't get his favourite seat

And he has the hide to bag someone willing to have a go :lol:

:lol: the cavalry...

"Having a go" versus having a go with no moral compass and getting suspended for the way you went about it are two different things.

You could easily say that at least the current admin/named 5 were "having a go" - is that any defence for what has come to light? No it's not. But don't let that stop members of the cavalry from being selective about applying their logic :lol:.