Eels Team vs Bulldogs - Round 9.

[Poupou Escobar]

If players don`t have confidence in the coaches instructions or game plans or tactics, they are prone to panic on the field.

Now think what other factors could cause them to panic on the field. is the gameplan all it could be?

Defence is a pretty simple part of the gameplan. I don't think anyone that's ever played the game at a high level could get that side of a gameplan wrong.

Have you considered that some of the players don't have confidence in each other?

Do you think Stephen Kearney is a good coach?

I already said he's not. How could anyone be a good coach after only eighteen months? How long do you think it takes to become a good coach?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Okay. I respect that. Can`t see it myself, but I respect that opinion. I hope like hell you`re right, by the way.

Are you saying you're happy to be proven wrong but?

 

[TheParraboy]

Agreed.

If we had been this shit in defence last year I would have assumed it's because Kearney has no idea.

The fact is we have gotten worse which shows me tactics aren't the issue. There is something much deeper wrong with our club. That's the only logical explanation.

As for Kearney's role in that problem, or his ability to fix it in a short time frame, how would any of us know?

So Sandow/Roberts defend the same as Morts/Robson? Would there be an explanation in there somewhere regarding our defence?

 

[Gronk]

So basically SK should be given the benefit of the doubt based on the fact that our defence was quite good last year ?

Ok we'll ingore the fact that his record (our clubs record for 2011/12) is 7 from 35 ? Not sure if that's accurate cos I've lost count.

Putting aside the love affair some have for him, might I remind you that we would be one of the few professional sporting teams in the world who would tollerate such a record.

Why is that and why are they wrong and we are right ?

 

[spartan2153]

So basically SK should be given the benefit of the doubt based on the fact that our defence was quite good last year ?

Ok we'll ingore the fact that his record (our clubs record for 2011/12) is 7 from 35 ? Not sure if that's accurate cos I've lost count.

Putting aside the love affair some have for him, might I remind you that we would be one of the few professional sporting teams in the world who would tollerate such a record.

Why is that and why are they wrong and we are right ?

Last year is fine. We have to concede he didnt have any input in the team

1 from 9 this year is good signs lol & these spin doctors are trying to tell us there are positives

 

[IFR33K]

Agreed.

If we had been this shit in defence last year I would have assumed it's because Kearney has no idea.

The fact is we have gotten worse which shows me tactics aren't the issue. There is something much deeper wrong with our club. That's the only logical explanation.

As for Kearney's role in that problem, or his ability to fix it in a short time frame, how would any of us know?

Wouldn't our good defence in 2011 be attributed to the hard work of DA.

You've stated a million times you can't judge a coach in the first year, and any success is from the previous coach????

So make up your mind troll.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So Sandow/Roberts defend the same as Morts/Robson? Would there be an explanation in there somewhere regarding our defence?

Roberts is as good as Robson or Mortimer. Sandow is worse but Casey McGuire missed seven tackles last night.

Maybe a lot of our guys are just getting too old?

The fact is our poor defence this year is all down to poor ball control - giving the opposition too many chances at our attacking our line. That wasn't a problem last year. We controlled the ball well.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So basically SK should be given the benefit of the doubt based on the fact that our defence was quite good last year ?

Ok we'll ingore the fact that his record (our clubs record for 2011/12) is 7 from 35 ? Not sure if that's accurate cos I've lost count.

Putting aside the love affair some have for him, might I remind you that we would be one of the few professional sporting teams in the world who would tollerate such a record.

Why is that and why are they wrong and we are right ?

When Jimmy Johnson took over the Dallas Cowboys in 1989 they finished the season 1 from 16. The second year they were 7 from 16, but didn't start winning until late in the season.

That made them 8 from 32.

Three years later they won the Superbowl and went on to become one of the dominant teams in the NFL. Of course, they were a privately-owned team and not subject to fan hysteria. They could probably afford to be patient.

Not us though, right?

 

[mickdo]

Roberts is as good as Robson or Mortimer

Defensively as good as Mortimer yes, Robson no

 

[Maroubra Eel]

Well Poupou hopefully we win half of our games this year too. Fingers crossed.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Wouldn't our good defence in 2011 be attributed to the hard work of DA.

The quality of the squad is the only thing you can attribute to the previous coach.

But in Anderson's defence he wasn't responsible for Grothe pulling the pin or Tahu's primadonna demands. I don't think he can take too much blame for the shit squad Kearney inherited.

You've stated a million times you can't judge a coach in the first year, and any success is from the previous coach????

I also said any failure is from the previous coach. But in this case I'm prepared to cut Anderson some slack.

We finished 12th in 2010, lost Mateo, Inu, Cayless, Tahu and Grothe. Then we finished 14th last year.

So make up your mind troll.

Don't blame me if you lack comprehension.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Defensively as good as Mortimer yes, Robson no

Mate, Roberts is a good defender apart from the odd shocker. Robson had his shit defensive games too.

 

[Eels Dude]

The fact is our poor defence this year is all down to poor ball control - giving the opposition too many chances at our attacking our line. That wasn't a problem last year. We controlled the ball well.

We controlled the ball well last night... Didn't we complete our first 15 sets? As soon as we did cough up the ball in good field position the first time the Bulldogs took advantage of that and scored, then they scored, again, then yet again.

I'd say the problem is that whenever we give the opposition a sniff of an opportunity, they not only take it, but we let them take it.

 

[TheParraboy]

Mate, Roberts is a good defender apart from the odd shocker. Robson had his shit defensive games too.

difference being, Robbo would clock over 30 tackles per game, a lot of them shutting down dangerous plays. Sure Robbo had some shockers, no where near the consistant volume of shockers roberts/sandow bring to the table defensively

 

[IFR33K]

Don't blame me if you lack comprehension.

I'd be happy if you could pick an argument and stick to it.

So tell us, when can SK be judged???

How long does he get, before we give him the flick????

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I'd be happy if you could pick an argument and stick to it.

Mate, things aren't that simple, and I've shown I'm only sure about the things I can prove.

Other than that I prefer to put shit on other people who are certain of things without any proof. That's why you're constantly in the firing line.

So tell us, when can SK be judged???

Well I reckon he can be judged already by the people on the inside of the club. I reckon our board and probably all of our players will have made up their minds about him by now.

As for us fans, we'll just have to keep ours ears pricked for snippets of information here and there. A couple of key indicators would be:

• Players openly criticising Kearney in the media
• Players openly supporting Kearney in the media
• Other stakeholders publicly commenting on Kearney
• Kearney receiving a contract extension
• Kearney getting the sack
• Kearney still not being re-signed by this time next year

Those indicators will be the best gauge of how Kearney is going, and a few of them have already happened, although as always the meanings are unclear.

How long does he get, before we give him the flick????

Well mate it's not up to us is it? If it were up to me I would have kept Anderson but I don't know what's going on inside the club now and I didn't know then.

I reckon the board were probably right about Anderson. For reasons I've already gone into.

 

[mickdo]

Mate, Roberts is a good defender apart from the odd shocker. Robson had his shit defensive games too.

Sure Robbo had some bad ones, every player does. He was definitely a better defender than Roberts IMO... by some margin.

 

[Gronk]

When Jimmy Johnson took over the Dallas Cowboys in 1989 they finished the season 1 from 16. The second year they were 7 from 16, but didn't start winning until late in the season.

That made them 8 from 32.

Three years later they won the Superbowl and went on to become one of the dominant teams in the NFL. Of course, they were a privately-owned team and not subject to fan hysteria. They could probably afford to be patient.

Not us though, right?

LOL you found a single result in history which suited your arguement. Wow, that must mean you're right. No such luck champ. Bottom line is that there are very few clubs involved in team sports throughout the world who would tolerate his pathetic record. But you know that.

 

[TheParraboy]

LOL you found a single result in history which suited your arguement. Wow, that must mean you're right. No such luck champ. Bottom line is that there are very few clubs involved in team sports throughout the world who would tolerate his pathetic record. But you know that.

Pou Pou is the biggest cherry picking merkin ive seen :lol:

 

[Poupou Escobar]

LOL you found a single result in history which suited your arguement.

No, I used to follow the NRL and I've always remembered it.

And now I think of it whenever I see a sporting team sack a coach due to early poor results.

Also, I've always hated the Dallas Cowboys, and I was surprised at what a lovely bloke Jimmy Johnson actually was when he turned up on Survivor a couple of years ago.

Wow, that must mean you're right.

No it means you're wrong. You're the one who said something is impossible, or never happened. That means one example is enough to disprove your statement.

There isn't much in this world that can be proved beyond a shadow of a doubt (which is why courts of law have 'beyond reasonable doubt') but plenty of things can be disproved. We call that 'inductive logic'.

No such luck champ. Bottom line is that there are very few clubs involved in team sports throughout the world who would tolerate his pathetic record.

How many of those clubs have ended up as successful as the Dallas Cowboys of the 90s?

Mate here's a tip for young players - if you ever want to find examples of success, don't look at the majority. If you're so smart why don't you know that?