Enough is enough

[poetic tragedy]

The only thing the knights have proven this season is that they are a one man team.

Any time they had "proven themselves" otherwise was in one off situations. This time they had the entire season to set things straight, and they blew it. No one can tell me they're playing with any kind of passion at all, and they didn't deserve to have a chance in the finals this season. and I for one as a supporter am not happy at all, having busted my chops to go out of my way to support a club who I thought was passionate about their fans and their footy. Apparently not.

Well there's my rant.

::EDIT:: May I just add, I don't particularly give a crap about the people who are going to come in and say "you people call yourselves real supporters, real support is sticking with your team through the good and the bad." I don't particularly care, and fact of the matter is the knights don't look too much like they're doing much for us as apposed to what we are trying to do for them, turning up to their games week after week to cheer them on only to be dissapointed yet again.

 

[Matt23]

Well said, Poetic tragedy...People have to be held accountable for this debacle :x

 

[Rusty]

PJ I agree with you we suck and management and coaching staff not to mention the players need to take a long hard look at themselves.Our players are so unfit its bloody obvious to even blind freddy. :x

 

[poetic tragedy]

PJ I agree with you we suck and management and coaching staff not to mention the players need to take a long hard look at themselves.Our players are so unfit its bloody obvious to even blind freddy. :x

And this injury bullshit is a joke. No team ever has as many players out through injury as we do, and I think I read somewhere we currently have about 8 players out for season? It is a real joke, and something really needs to happen for these boys to turn around.

The only players I am confident in who I think deserve medals for their work with the knights are Danny Buderus and Robbie O Davis. They both always play consistently well, especially Buderus. Robbie O Davis is playing with a fractured jaw because he doesn't want to sit out his last few games of the season with the knights because of injury. And this is what the f**king knights do to repay him for the 10 years he has been with them, not to mention the f**king lousy slap in the face of 8 g's to keep him next year, using the money instead to retain incompetent players like Carmont. This club is a joke as it stands right now.

 

[Whats Doing]

The injury situation is a smokescreen to deflect the incompetence we have right through the club.

We had 7 current or former State of Origin players playing in last nights farce. (Odavis, Gidley, Hughes, Kennedy, Simpson, Buderis and Perry).

Nothing short of a disgrace for the lack of pride, skills, defence and mental toughness required for a 1st grade side.

 

[Stranger]

The bloddy worst part is there not helping themselves. The saying ohh.. next year. Well next year is to bloddy late for players like parso and Robbie 0 who are moving on.

There hopeless why dont the drop perry he is a lazy sh*t. Were was he when O Meley was running through. How the hell did they expect O davis to stop him.
Well said PT. The injury excuse is gone. Look at what the broncoes did last week. The tigers threw everything at them and the didnt fold. We crumble when that happens.

 

[Doctor]

I think I read somewhere we currently have about 8 players out for season? It is a real joke, and something really needs to happen for these boys to turn around.

I think the number is 12. You simply cannot win premierships with that many players out.

The other issue is that many of the players that we would turn to when injuries strike (i.e. fringe first graders) are also injured.

Players like Riley Brown, Matt Kennedy, Kevin Henderson, David Seage, Luke Quigley, etc would all have been missing out on first grade had we a full-strength team. Unfortunately, their opportunities to shine have been limited by their own injuries.

I can understand your frustrations Poetic_Tragedy -- I feel fairly frustrated myself. It's been an awful year, and I agree that changes do need to be made generally. But I also think we need to get some personnel back.

The teams that are succeeding are relatively injury free: The Roosters, Bulldogs and co are all cruising along well because they put the same team on the field each week. The Panthers used just 20 players last year apparently -- we've used upwards of 34. Premierships are won with great teams that know each others' games. I just don't think we can blame the Knights for not performing well when every week's team is fundamentally different from the previous week.

 

[~bedsy~]

I agree with you have written Owsin. Teams like the Roosters and Doggs who have had pretty much no injuires all yr will always be able to beat a team with 12 of their top players sitting on the sidleine. I was dissapointed after last night, however I will still be at the game next Saturday.
I can understand why other's don't want to be there, however my choice is to be at the game and to let them I still support them.

 

[Stranger]

How come the roosters never get injuries. The dogs get a few but y dont the roosters? Drugs. lol Im Mr. Conspiracy Theory

 

[Alex28]

PJ I agree with you we suck and management and coaching staff not to mention the players need to take a long hard look at themselves.Our players are so unfit its bloody obvious to even blind freddy. :x

And this injury bullsh*t is a joke. No team ever has as many players out through injury as we do, and I think I read somewhere we currently have about 8 players out for season? It is a real joke, and something really needs to happen for these boys to turn around.

The only players I am confident in who I think deserve medals for their work with the knights are Danny Buderus and Robbie O Davis. They both always play consistently well, especially Buderus. Robbie O Davis is playing with a fractured jaw because he doesn't want to sit out his last few games of the season with the knights because of injury. And this is what the f***ing knights do to repay him for the 10 years he has been with them, not to mention the f***ing lousy slap in the face of 8 g's to keep him next year, using the money instead to retain incompetent players like Carmont. This club is a joke as it stands right now.

Lets just make some O'Davis facts clear:

* O'Davis is not playing the last few games because he doesn't want to sit them out just because of injury - he has 30,000 good reasons to play the last few games so he makes his bonus for the year;

* O'Davis was told when he signed last year that this would be the last year for him at the club. Just because it doesn't suit him, is it right he goes to the media to bitch about it?

* O'Davis was not offered the $8,000 - therefore he was not slapped in the face;

* O'Davis proved last night that he is past his best. He was a speed bump in defence.

Can we please let the O'Davis thing go?

 

[mat_parsons]

Take it easy people! Every team has a bad season or two!

I mean look at Warriors. Grand finalists 2002, wooden spoon 2004!

If things dont get any better next year than it's really time for some sackings at all levels; managment, coaching and players. Especially players because they need to know that they just cant sit with hands crossed and take their pay as granted. And it's really time to have a look at recruting practises - no good first grade with No-talent-time PL.

 

[stuke]

How come the roosters never get injuries. The dogs get a few but y dont the roosters? Drugs. lol Im Mr. Conspiracy Theory

hahahaha....obviously you have a short memory....

 

[Alex28]

just what we need on the wing...a 32 year old slow hasbeen. you talk of wanting change at the club, yet you want to put O'Davis on the wing?

give me a f***ing break...

 

[poetic tragedy]

just what we need on the wing...a 32 year old slow hasbeen. you talk of wanting change at the club, yet you want to put O'Davis on the wing?

give me a f***ing break...

That has nothing to do with it. For all the time Robbie has been with the club, and the way he is stepping up to the plate lately when no one else has, he deserves alot more than what they are doing for him, particularly when you have players like Carmont higher on the priority list. I'd take one of Robbie O's one on one try saving tackles over Carmont's sloppy wing defense any day.

Like I said, no one can use this "Every club has their bad seasons!" excuse because this is pathetic. The Knights are not playing well at all and you can't put it down to being any more than being unpassionate about what they're doing. This injury bullshit is more than a lousy excuse, it's getting extremely old and the fact they can't come up with a way to counter it after falling victim to it season after season is not good at all.

Newcastle have always had a problem with their defense and something needs to be f**king done.
You know something is wrong when week after week you get nervous every time the opposition gets the ball. Particularly in the last few weeks the knights have let in tries from everywhere in the field because some incompetent f**kwit on the wing is standing with his arms crossed and slipping off a simple tackle.
Not to mention the fact that it takes 4 players to bring down 1 with the ball, leaving gaps for the opposition all over the place for the player who - even though being held by 4 guys - still manages an offload for a soft an easy try.
The Johns brothers were a god send for Newcastle, and without them this club probably wouldn't be half as good as the league makes them out to be, because they sure as hell haven't been playing like it.

 

[~bedsy~]

So your none of these players at any point in the yr have played with passion? :roll:
Your giving Robbio praise... when he was one of the worst players on the feild last night... how does that work?

 

[poetic tragedy]

So your none of these players at any point in the yr have played with passion? :roll:
Your giving Robbio praise... when he was one of the worst players on the feild last night... how does that work?

bedsy's never had a bad game. :roll:

 

[~bedsy~]

I didn't say that. #-o

 

[poetic tragedy]

I didn't say that. #-o

But you're insinuating that by my praising Robbie O'Davis, he obviously could NEVER have had a bad game, when I was infact trying to imply that he is a good player, albeit at times not very consistent, but still good enough to put his hand up when the need arises.

P.S. My entire last post was meant to be taken sarcastically.

 

[fosie]

We ain't a one man team and you all know it.
If we didn't have so many injuries this year we coulda played betta than we did and still make the finals. Johns is just another team mate on teh field playin his best.

 

[aqua_duck]

I want to pose a question, why do we always seem to have so many injuries season after season, its just too easy to blame luck without fixing the problem. What compounds the problem is our lack of any decent depth.
Our recruitment of late has been stupid, why aren't we signing good young players like Willie Tonga instead of re-signing has beens like Hughes for 5 times as much money. Our defence is shocking and the commitment of the players has to be brought into question, with other top clubs, who are without question more professional, even without their top players they still seem to be able to hold on to their dignity when they lose, which is more than I can say for us.