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Entire Wests Tigers Board Sacked

Bring back the Magpies?

  • Yes

    Votes: 17 56.7%
  • No

    Votes: 5 16.7%
  • Remove both clubs

    Votes: 8 26.7%

  • Total voters
    30

Diesel

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As a neutral it doesn’t affect me but, this JV needs to be disbandoned. Whether it remains as West Tigers and plays at ONE home ground in the WEST, or plays as the Magpies at Campbelltown I don’t know. The WT’s problem is they’re spread too thin between 3 home grounds. Its roots are in opposite ends of the city with different needs and demographics.
 
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As a neutral it doesn’t affect me but, this JV needs to be disbandoned. Whether it remains as West Tigers and plays at ONE home ground in the WEST, or plays as the Magpies at Campbelltown I don’t know. The WT’s problem is they’re spread too thin between 3 home grounds. Its roots are in opposite ends of the city with different needs and demographics.

I dont think the answer is to bring back the Magpies, but I agree that they should rework the brand. Rather than doing a 50/50 split if the brand or just ditching one entirely, they should find a brand that captures both clubs.

Id say:
- West Sydney Founders (Balmain and Wests were both in the NSWRL first season)
- West Sydney 1908s
- West Sydney United

Then do a logo with a tiger and a magpie (like a coat of arms)
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as for the Grounds, now that the board is not split, surely they can create a unified vision rather than a permanent compromise
 

siv

First Grade
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Dont Wests have full control already after the Balmain side if the JV couldn't meet their financial commitments
 

I Bleed Maroon

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İzmir Zaferi

Juniors
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This whole discussion is foolishness.

The Barnes Holman group is literally named after one Balmain player and one Wests player.

Barnes Holman group owns Wests Ashfield but also other non Magpies branded assets. They are not
Western Suburbs Magpies but rather an entity that sits above Western Suburbs, Wests Ashfield
Croyden Sports, Markets Club and yes Wests Tigers NRL Club.

No one is going to undermine the primary strength of the branding, which is Tigers.

The NRL and Wests Tigers should refuse further accreditation to any journalist who knowingly
creates false news.
 

Iamback

Referee
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20,666
This whole discussion is foolishness.

The Barnes Holman group is literally named after one Balmain player and one Wests player.

Barnes Holman group owns Wests Ashfield but also other non Magpies branded assets. They are not
Western Suburbs Magpies but rather an entity that sits above Western Suburbs, Wests Ashfield
Croyden Sports, Markets Club and yes Wests Tigers NRL Club.

No one is going to undermine the primary strength of the branding, which is Tigers.

The NRL and Wests Tigers should refuse further accreditation to any journalist who knowingly
creates false news.

Every article has direct quotes so Journos aren't making stuff up, I agree it won't happen though but if board members are calling journos saying it then not much the NRL can do
 
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Can anyone explain which directors belong to which factions?

I had assumed these were all the Balmain guys who had no i fluence and were having a whinge.

i have rarely seen worse reporting. Forget the making shit up, they cant even report clearly on their own bullshit
 

innsaneink

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Long-term debenture holder calls for Wests Tigers’ ownership structure system to be blown up​

The infighting between the owners of the Wests Tigers has exploded with one-long time debenture holder calling for the system to be scrapped immediately.
Wests Tigers' Jarome Luai At Training


One of the longest serving debenture holders at the Holman Barnes Group – the owners of the Wests Tigers – has sensationally called for the ownership structure to be changed immediately in the wake of three board members being banned.
John Hardgrove – who has been a debenture holder for more than three decades – said it is time for a major revamp of the Holman Barnes Group governance structure.

The debenture agreement was launched in 1955 as part of the formation of Wests Ashfield Leagues Club to assist with the running of the Western Suburbs Magpies. The debenture system has remained even through the many changes which have occurred in the past 70 years including a merger with Balmain.

The debenture system consisting of 20 people appoints from within five people to sit on the Holman Barnes Group board.

It costs just $100 to join the elite group.

John Hardgrove (R) has called for the club to restructure its ownership model. Picture: John Appleyard


John Hardgrove (R) has called for the club to restructure its ownership model. Picture: John Appleyard
Two other board members are elected via a membership vote by the membership of the Holmans Group clubs which includes Wests Ashfield.

“The debenture system has served its purpose,” Hardgrove said. “I supported the system up until now because it served its original purpose of protecting the assets of the club and the support of rugby league.

“What’s happening now is outside the original intent of the group. We need to look at another system that will protect the interests of the club, its assets and the long history of a foundation rugby league club as well as the Wests Tigers.

“The debenture system is no longer fit for purpose. A new system needs to be developed and this could require an administrator to be appointed while this is being done.

“What has been done to these three people is grossly unfair and lacks procedural fairness.”

Recently banned duo Rick Wayde and Tony Andreacchio were elected by the members while fellow exiled board member David Gilbert was one of five debenture board members.

While there are a maximum of 20 debenture holders there are just 16 active debenture members.

Wests Tigers Clean-out​

Wests-Tigers-Cleanout_HcviI_x9q.jpg


Players released from the club for 2025 despite being contracted:

  • John Bateman (Cowboys),
  • Isaiah Papali'I (Panthers),
  • Jayden Sullivan (Rabbitohs)
They include; Hardgrove, Gilbert and current Holman Barnes board of directors Julie Romero, Dennis Burgess, Stephen Montgomery and Vince Tropiano.

Other debenture holders include Kevin Hammond, Daniel Lane, Clare Burgess, Fiona Shand, Russell Smith, Brian Cook, Mick Liubinskas, Scott Beynon and Peter DiMichiel (chairman).

Paul Marsh – who acted for Gilbert, Wayde and Andreacchio in their dealings against Holman Barnes – is also a debenture holder.

Wayde was banned for eight years, Andreacchio (six) and Gilbert (six months) for a range of alleged misdemeanours.

“The penalties are a joke,” Hardgrove said. “I’ve seen what they were charged with and the penalty they were given. The penalty does not fit the alleged crime even if you believe they deserved some sort of penalty.

“What they have been given is a joke and seems to be ploy for other people to gain even more control.”

Can the club ignore the off-field dramas and perform on the field in 2025?


Can the club ignore the off-field dramas and perform on the field in 2025?
The debenture holders meet six times a year but because of the ongoing conflict there has not been a formal meeting since October.

“The meeting was called off in December but the Christmas dinner went ahead,” Hardgrove said. “It was fairly tense.”

Two debenture holders are to be appointed to the Holman Barnes Group next month.

Gilbert and Dennis Burgess are up for re-election.

Meanwhile, a fan led petition calling for a review into the Holman Barnes Group has attracted more than 1000 signatures. The Wests Tigers Unite fan-base are calling for change.

“The Wests Tigers need to stand on its own two feet and have the best possible representation at board level,” said Wests Tigers United spokesman Joel Helmes. “We have been a fan base who have been divided foes 25 years, this is the moment the club comes together once and for all.”

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Wb1234

Immortal
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34,638
This is a wests problem

Wonder if this has any impact on their form

Benji needs a good year or he’s goneski with a pretty decent spine
 

Vlad59

Bench
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4,372

Long-term debenture holder calls for Wests Tigers’ ownership structure system to be blown up​

The infighting between the owners of the Wests Tigers has exploded with one-long time debenture holder calling for the system to be scrapped immediately.
Wests Tigers' Jarome Luai At Training' Jarome Luai At Training


One of the longest serving debenture holders at the Holman Barnes Group – the owners of the Wests Tigers – has sensationally called for the ownership structure to be changed immediately in the wake of three board members being banned.
John Hardgrove – who has been a debenture holder for more than three decades – said it is time for a major revamp of the Holman Barnes Group governance structure.

The debenture agreement was launched in 1955 as part of the formation of Wests Ashfield Leagues Club to assist with the running of the Western Suburbs Magpies. The debenture system has remained even through the many changes which have occurred in the past 70 years including a merger with Balmain.

The debenture system consisting of 20 people appoints from within five people to sit on the Holman Barnes Group board.

It costs just $100 to join the elite group.

John Hardgrove (R) has called for the club to restructure its ownership model. Picture: John Appleyard


John Hardgrove (R) has called for the club to restructure its ownership model. Picture: John Appleyard
Two other board members are elected via a membership vote by the membership of the Holmans Group clubs which includes Wests Ashfield.

“The debenture system has served its purpose,” Hardgrove said. “I supported the system up until now because it served its original purpose of protecting the assets of the club and the support of rugby league.

“What’s happening now is outside the original intent of the group. We need to look at another system that will protect the interests of the club, its assets and the long history of a foundation rugby league club as well as the Wests Tigers.

“The debenture system is no longer fit for purpose. A new system needs to be developed and this could require an administrator to be appointed while this is being done.

“What has been done to these three people is grossly unfair and lacks procedural fairness.”

Recently banned duo Rick Wayde and Tony Andreacchio were elected by the members while fellow exiled board member David Gilbert was one of five debenture board members.

While there are a maximum of 20 debenture holders there are just 16 active debenture members.

Wests Tigers Clean-out​

Wests-Tigers-Cleanout_HcviI_x9q.jpg


Players released from the club for 2025 despite being contracted:

  • John Bateman (Cowboys),
  • Isaiah Papali'I (Panthers),
  • Jayden Sullivan (Rabbitohs)
They include; Hardgrove, Gilbert and current Holman Barnes board of directors Julie Romero, Dennis Burgess, Stephen Montgomery and Vince Tropiano.

Other debenture holders include Kevin Hammond, Daniel Lane, Clare Burgess, Fiona Shand, Russell Smith, Brian Cook, Mick Liubinskas, Scott Beynon and Peter DiMichiel (chairman).

Paul Marsh – who acted for Gilbert, Wayde and Andreacchio in their dealings against Holman Barnes – is also a debenture holder.

Wayde was banned for eight years, Andreacchio (six) and Gilbert (six months) for a range of alleged misdemeanours.

“The penalties are a joke,” Hardgrove said. “I’ve seen what they were charged with and the penalty they were given. The penalty does not fit the alleged crime even if you believe they deserved some sort of penalty.

“What they have been given is a joke and seems to be ploy for other people to gain even more control.”

Can the club ignore the off-field dramas and perform on the field in 2025?


Can the club ignore the off-field dramas and perform on the field in 2025?
The debenture holders meet six times a year but because of the ongoing conflict there has not been a formal meeting since October.

“The meeting was called off in December but the Christmas dinner went ahead,” Hardgrove said. “It was fairly tense.”

Two debenture holders are to be appointed to the Holman Barnes Group next month.

Gilbert and Dennis Burgess are up for re-election.

Meanwhile, a fan led petition calling for a review into the Holman Barnes Group has attracted more than 1000 signatures. The Wests Tigers Unite fan-base are calling for change.

“The Wests Tigers need to stand on its own two feet and have the best possible representation at board level,” said Wests Tigers United spokesman Joel Helmes. “We have been a fan base who have been divided foes 25 years, this is the moment the club comes together once and for all.”

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Every article I read about the west tigers ownership structure leaves me with a headache. Is it just me?
 

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