Expansion confirmed, 60 more first graders needed!

[Gobsmacked]

Why are you so convinced that there is suddenly this huge talent pool of Union players in Australia that are NRL ready?

Who said Australia?
Take the cream of the World.

 

[Gobsmacked]

Why are you so convinced that there is suddenly this huge talent pool of Union players in Australia that are NRL ready?

And I didn't say NRL ready. That centre for Roosters is a good example. Fringe first grade/ top 30 squad depth.
We're already getting them from Union successfully.
A salary cap exemption gives an incentive to bring more talent into our pool in greater numbers, which is going to be needed in the next few years.
If we do it soon, they might well be ready for regular NRL by 2027

 

[BuffaloRules]

And I didn't say NRL ready. That centre for Roosters is a good example. Fringe first grade/ top 30 squad depth.
We're already getting them from Union successfully.
A salary cap exemption gives an incentive to bring more talent into our pool in greater numbers, which is going to be needed in the next few years.
If we do it soon, they might well be ready for regular NRL by 2027

I’m going to have to wait and see them actually come through with the salary cap exemption…this has been talked about for years and not yet introduced…. 2027 is the World Cup in Australia so they won’t be getting big names jumping that year …although could be a good time to push it for 2028

 

[Gobsmacked]

I’m going to have to wait and see them actually come through with the salary cap exemption…this has been talked about for years and not yet introduced…. 2027 is the World Cup in Australia so they won’t be getting big names jumping that year …although could be a good time to push it for 2028

That's a bloody good point. Won't take much convincing post WC . If you sign the before the WC for 2028, that'll be a marketing genius.
The whole WC they'll be referencing this player at that a who they'll be playing for.
Genius.

 

[BuffaloRules]

That's a bloody good point. Won't take much convincing post WC . If you sign the before the WC for 2028, that'll be a marketing genius.
The whole WC they'll be referencing this player at that a who they'll be playing for.
Genius.

That would be nice … but I suspect the Rugby Union would brush them from playing in the RWC out of spite if they signed with RL before the World Cup ..

 

[Gobsmacked]

That would be nice … but I suspect the Rugby Union would brush them from playing in the RWC out of spite if they signed with RL before the World Cup ..

Maybe ! They've been using these threats against players for over a hundred years so why stop now right.

 

[Gobsmacked]

Can the NRL's talent pool survive Perth Bears expansion in 2027?

The depth of the NRL's talent pool has been a topic of conversation in the last week, ever since the news broke that Perth Bears will enter in 2027.

www.loverugbyleague.com

 

[Canard]

The arrogance that I see in AFL fans is existent in this thread.

The belief that the only thing holding Union players to their sport is money.

 

[Jonty]

The arrogance that I see in AFL fans is existent in this thread.

The belief that the only thing holding Union players to their sport is money.

Some not all.

All Blacks great 'concerned' as 'superstar' back set to become latest player to depart for Japan

Jeff Wilson and Mils Muliaina are concerned that the rumours surrounding All Blacks star Mark Tele'a is continuing a worrying trend in New Zealand.

www.planetrugby.com

I think in the not too distant future there will be even less loyalty to the game in New Zealand amongst the younger generation.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Some not all.

All Blacks great 'concerned' as 'superstar' back set to become latest player to depart for Japan

Jeff Wilson and Mils Muliaina are concerned that the rumours surrounding All Blacks star Mark Tele'a is continuing a worrying trend in New Zealand.

www.planetrugby.com

I think in the not too distant future there will be even less loyalty to the game in New Zealand amongst the younger generation.

Jonty is a Sth African name ….are you Sth African descent?

 

[Jonty]

Jonty is a Sth African name ….are you Sth African descent?

No.

It's just my nickname short for Jonathan.

 

[Gobsmacked]

The arrogance that I see in AFL fans is existent in this thread.

The belief that the only thing holding Union players to their sport is money.

Depends on how much money..
Depends on the person, maybe some will go for less.
There's not a lot of Union players an NRL team will risk cap space on, it's a gamble.
Create a cap concession and you reduce the risk.
Some Union players might love the opportunity to try their hand at League, some have even been open about that.
But NRL clubs aren't offering lots of opportunities to untested Union players.

 

[Perth Red]

Depends on how much money..
Depends on the person, maybe some will go for less.
There's not a lot of Union players an NRL team will risk cap space on, it's a gamble.
Create a cap concession and you reduce the risk.
Some Union players might love the opportunity to try their hand at League, some have even been open about that.
But NRL clubs aren't offering lots of opportunities to untested Union players.

I think if you offered say $250k dispensation on the cap it would tempt NRL clubs to give more union players a chance.

 

[Gobsmacked]

I think if you offered say $250k dispensation on the cap it would tempt NRL clubs to give more union players a chance.

I don't know what the figure should be but I do know it'll help at a time we need it.

 

[Perth Red]

I don't know what the figure should be but I do know it'll help at a time we need it.

Not since 1995 have we seen more than one team entered with a big gap till the next one. Going to be interesting to see how the two new clubs build a roster and how much it takes away from the existing 17 clubs talent pool. It does seem clubs are already increasingly looking to the SL for players.

 

[Canard]

Depends on how much money..
Depends on the person, maybe some will go for less.
There's not a lot of Union players an NRL team will risk cap space on, it's a gamble.
Create a cap concession and you reduce the risk.
Some Union players might love the opportunity to try their hand at League, some have even been open about that.
But NRL clubs aren't offering lots of opportunities to untested Union players.

I think if you offered say $250k dispensation on the cap it would tempt NRL clubs to give more union players a chance.

You guys spend more time salivating about Union players than you do talking about Rugby League

 

[Perth Red]

You guys spend more time salivating about Union players than you do talking about Rugby League

Id make it any player not currently contracted to an NRL or SL club. Get the talent scouts over to French RL, get the NRL players who've gone to union back, sign some decent union players, give some yank athletes a shot. Dont care where they come from as long as its fresh talent that helps to avoid weakening the current NRL or SL clubs.

 

[reanimate]

The arrogance that I see in AFL fans is existent in this thread.

The belief that the only thing holding Union players to their sport is money.

It’s not really the same as AFL fans believing that AFL will take over NSW and QLD and its sporting talent, it’s more that Rugby talent is Rugby talent, whether it’s in Union or League. The core skills needed in League all get taught in Union; passing, kicking, tackling etc. Other aspects are also transferable, some strongly, others less so, eg positional play, backline formations, defence techniques etc.

We need more players for more teams. Until we get pathways in place for those teams producing first graders on a regular basis, getting Union players worldwide is a potential viable solution in the short to medium term.

 

[Gobsmacked]

You guys spend more time salivating about Union players than you do talking about Rugby League

Rugby league came out of Union and booming in Australia purely by pulling the best players over right from the start.
The Rebels folded last year, this year the Storm sells out back to back...

Rugby league is a great sport and can attract new fans and players but the lowest hanging fruit is those already embedded in Rugby.. all we need to do is be the best version of Rugby.
It's not rocket science.

 

[Maximus]

Yeah let's benefit the richer clubs even more by giving them freedom to spend as much money outside of the cap as they want, which then benefits them by being able to spend more money in the cap on less players.

So next time the Roosters are under salary cap pressure, they can just get rid of some nuffie near the bottom of the cap, sign a superstar union player on huge money, and keep the other players they want to keep. The rich get richer. Great result for rugby league.

Salary cap dispensations for players from other codes always have been, and always will be, a dumb idea.