Feleti Mateo and Krisnan Inu sign with Warriors

[Suitman]

I'm sad.

Regardless of what I said about Mateo before, it's still really sad to see a talented junior have to leave.
Hope you are happy Gallop.



Suity

 

[Eels Dude]

Very sad to see the boys go.

Will be interesting to see how things will pan out with regards to recruitment now.

I'm expecting some good signings to come our way for 2011. There is no way Ando would let these two go without a back-up plan.

I'm not. With backloaded contracts, and upgraded for Hayne, Fui, and Morts there is capspace gone there. If we re-sign KK it will be un upgraded deal too as he's probably on only about 55k now. Same with Horo... with a year's first grade under his belt he'll get an upgrade too if we sign him.

 

[Craig Johnston]

I would take Gallen in a heartbeat! What a workrate!!!

third that

 

[bartman]

I'm not sad in the slightest. These guys have tried hard but didn't really cut it, or didn't really come on in the way they could have (or in the way their wages demanded). They are leaving for more money than should really be offered them, and they have made their choice. Good luck to them, and now we'll be able to keep the next talented ones coming through (eg Horo). That's modern footy, and imo the cap is a good thing.

Someone asked how this will effect Hayne... if he hadn't pumped for and taken such an increase, then one or both may have been able to stay. So Hayne shouldn't be effected, but he should realise that when teams are on a cap, and someone squeals for more money, then there is always a consequence.

I think Mateo and Inu will continue to play as well as they have been for the rest of the season, as will Cayless and any others we know/learn won't be here next year. They might be more relaxed now and play for the fun of it.

 

[Jake the snake]

I'm not sad in the slightest. These guys are leaving for more money, and have made their choice. Good luck to them, and we'll now be able to keep the next talented ones coming through (eg Horo). That's modern footy, and imo the cap is a good thing.

Someone asked how this will effect Hayne... if he hadn't pumped for and taken such an increase, then one or both may have been able to stay. So Hayne shouldn't be effected, but he should realise that when teams are on a cap, and someone squeals for more money, then there is always a consequence.

The club (the coach) offered Hayne the money and what they thought he was worth, he accepted. He didn't squeal.
Would you prefer Hayne go somewhere else?

As if you would knock back a pay increase.

 

[bartman]

:roll:. Hayne is squealing all over the media now about player payments not being enough, and how his family don't get free airtickets. As if you hadn't noticed...

But that wasn't the point of the post. The point was Hayne shouldn't be effected by his mates leaving, because in essence Hayne's increased wage is one cause of other guys having to look elsewhere. It's a fact of life, and of anyone Hayne should realise this.

 

[yy_cheng]

The point was Hayne shouldn't be effected by his mates leaving, because in essence Hayne's increased wage is one cause of other guys having to look elsewhere. It's a fact of life, and of anyone Hayne should realise this.

Theoretically you are correct, it was partially Hayne's money that reduced the kitty as in facts of life.

However, he is still a 21 y.o.

I still think he might be affected.

 

[bartman]

Maybe they can all get matching tattoos before they split up?

 

[El Diablo]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...zealand-warriors/story-e6frexnr-1225864752150

Parramatta Eels blast salary cap as Feleti Mateo and Krisnan Inu join New Zealand Warriors

* Josh Massoud
* From: The Daily Telegraph
* May 11, 2010 12:00AM

PARRAMATTA chief executive Paul Osborne has blamed the NRL's "unfair" salary cap laws for yesterday's defection of star local juniors Feleti Mateo and Krisnan Inu to the New Zealand Warriors.

Both players will join the Warriors on three-year deals at the end of this season after Parramatta failed to "even get close" to matching their trans-Tasman rivals.

It's believed Mateo stands to earn around $1 million by switching clubs, while Inu would have been asked to accept a significant pay cut on his current $275,000-a-season deal to remain an Eel.

The pair agreed to terms after travelling to Auckland last month, when they inspected the Warriors' facilities.

After breaking the news to teammates and coach Daniel Anderson at training yesterday, Mateo described the truth session as the "saddest thing I've had to do in my football career so far".

But Osborne was even crankier as he pointed out how the pair's departure demonstrated the ineffectiveness of current salary cap concessions for local juniors and long-serving stars.

He promised to use the loss of Mateo and Inu as one of the club's arguments for cap changes, with the NRL seeking submissions on how the system can be improved.

"We are really disappointed because at the end of the day, we just couldn't get close to the money they were being offered elsewhere," Osborne said. "The saddest thing is that we spend over a million dollars on junior development.

"But with the current rules it feels like we are a breeding ground for other clubs who get to negotiate on the same terms as us despite putting nothing into their development.

"Look around the competition ... look at Manly and Cronulla ... there's Parramatta juniors everywhere. It's unfair."

Speaking to Parramatta's official website yesterday, both Mateo and Inu struggled to hide their emotions. "It's a very sad day because I've grown up in the area and always supported the Eels," Mateo said.

"It's probably the saddest thing I've had to do in my football career so far." Inu added: "Like Feleti said, to be leaving our home will be really hard - especially the boys and staff, they're practically our family."

The Warriors are believed to be $500,000 under the salary cap this season, meaning they can offset a significant portion of Mateo and Inu's contracts by front-loading their values.

The club has already poached Steve Rapira from North Queensland and yesterday re-signed tackling machine Micheal Luck for a further two years.

"We're comfortable with where our cap is at the moment," said Warriors CEO Wayne Scurrah.

"We don't think our recruitment is over just yet."

 

[Runaround Man]

Good luck to them. They are young, talented and deserve as much as they can possibly get, plus they will get starting positions week in week out.

They are good fellows...... also good for Parra.....opportunities for other players.....we definitely need more consistent players...as brilliant as they are when they are on...

 

[El Diablo]

He promised to use the loss of Mateo and Inu as one of the club's arguments for cap changes, with the NRL seeking submissions on how the system can be improved.

"We are really disappointed because at the end of the day, we just couldn't get close to the money they were being offered elsewhere," Osborne said. "The saddest thing is that we spend over a million dollars on junior development.

"But with the current rules it feels like we are a breeding ground for other clubs who get to negotiate on the same terms as us despite putting nothing into their development.

"Look around the competition ... look at Manly and Cronulla ... there's Parramatta juniors everywhere. It's unfair."

why bother if there is no reward?

 

[bartman]

Front loading, back loading... what a mess.

Contracts should stay within a small reasonable annual variation between years.

 

[Runaround Man]

Interestingly enough, if the offset system comes in for juniors etc, teams like Parra and Penrith will be even more dominant. The amount of juniors in their areas is staggering. Teams like the Roosters will suffer......

I am glad I am a Parra supporter...

 

[El Diablo]

Interestingly enough, if the offset system comes in for juniors etc, teams like Parra and Penrith will be even more dominant. The amount of juniors in their areas is staggering. Teams like the Roosters will suffer......

Gould bitches and moans about the salary cap but when someone suggests teams get dispensation for local juniors he is dead against it because it does not benefit the Roosters

 

[Craig Johnston]

hayne's upgrade was barely 100k, he was already on 300-330. the rest of his new deal is tp. hardly enough to "squeeze out" his teammates

mortimer's deal was a bigger upgrade than hayne's

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

Interestingly enough, if the offset system comes in for juniors etc, teams like Parra and Penrith will be even more dominant. The amount of juniors in their areas is staggering. Teams like the Roosters will suffer......

I am glad I am a Parra supporter...

And whats so wrong with that? Clubs like Parra, Penrith, Brisbane, Canterbury, Canberra, St George, Newcastle, the Cowboys, the Tigers, all get stronger and more successful because they have more kids that play Rugby League. That seems like a very fair reward for clubs that are only helping the growth of RL.

 

[lucablight]

I am gutted. If we were losing only one of them I could understand but to lose both I find very hard to swallow. Especially when I heard Paul Osborne say last year we would be able to keep who we wanted to keep. I'm especially upset at losing Mateo because he is one of the most gifted players in the NRL. TBH I don't understand when the re-signings were being prioritised as to why Mateo wasn't one of the main ones.
Just hope we can keep Grothe and Kris Keating now.

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

It is a heart breaking loss, I honestly thought that those 2 would havea massive hand in us winning a competition one day. Perhaps they still will. We have them for a while, lets see if we can get the best out of them for now.

Greg Bird to replace Mateo?

 

[Eels Dude]

And whats so wrong with that? Clubs like Parra, Penrith, Brisbane, Canterbury, Canberra, St George, Newcastle, the Cowboys, the Tigers, all get stronger and more successful because they have more kids that play Rugby League. That seems like a very fair reward for clubs that are only helping the growth of RL.

The problem for the Roosters is that their junior catchment area is miniscule compared to other clubs. That cannot change because whoever is in charge, probably the NSWRL define the set borders for the local competitions. The Roosters' is and always be tiny unless they redefine the competition border zones. Parramatta and Penrith aren't just successful in producing great players because more kids play footy out here, both areas have a massive area range in our junior bases, the Roosters don't.

 

[Fui!!!]

The way I understand it, you don't have to have a huge junior area. Just a good talent scout who can pick the good players early, and make sure they play U/20's at your club first.