Feleti Mateo and Krisnan Inu sign with Warriors

[Stagger eel]

Stagger, caylo stated clearly that he would have Horro replace Mateo and then either Filiga or Lasalo replacing Horro's bench spot. Which is not that bad an idea. We have mateo for the rest of the season, so i think Ando will be working Lasalo and Filiga hard during the off season and getting them ready fighting for a bench spot, even throw te mari in their he would be ahead of both of them due to his 1st grade experience.

really, I'd be interested to find out who he stated that to, because unless I'm proven wrong I've never heard DA even mention Filiga in an interview...

I would be astounded if we don't attempt to sign another backrower because if we don't have money to spend than we're f**ked..to put it politely..

 

[Stagger eel]

sorry Ian read that wrongly, I thought you meant DA not caylo..

regardless, if we don't sign another backrower or 2 then we're rooted.

 

[ianlovesparra]

really, I'd be interested to find out who he stated that to, because unless I'm proven wrong I've never heard DA even mention Filiga in an interview...

I would be astounded if we don't attempt to sign another backrower because if we don't have money to spend than we're f**ked..to put it politely..

What i am saying is that you questioned Caylo, saying Filiga and Lasalo are not ready for 1st grade and they are not ready to replace Mateo. Caylo never said Filiga and Lasalo were the ones to replace Mateo, he said Horro would be a good replacement for Mateo at lock, leaving a bench spot open for either Filiga or Lasalo.

 

[ianlovesparra]

sorry Ian read that wrongly, I thought you meant DA not caylo..

regardless, if we don't sign another backrower or 2 then we're rooted.

No worries mate. I got a little confused there to lol.

 

[Stagger eel]

What i am saying is that you questioned Caylo, saying Filiga and Lasalo are not ready for 1st grade and they are not ready to replace Mateo. Caylo never said Filiga and Lasalo were the ones to replace Mateo, he said Horro would be a good replacement for Mateo at lock, leaving a bench spot open for either Filiga or Lasalo.

caylo clearly said that we shouldn't be replacing Mateo with anyone outside this club, he did mention Horo as an ideal replacement as a starting backrower and that may well be the case but you would have to assume that we have money to spend and how I read it, we should be spending it on fringe first graders (depth)...that would be absolutely ludicrious to replace 2 quality players with some fringe first graders..

refer: 2004.

 

[yy_cheng]

who are you aiming question at yy??

caylo because if poore or fui goes down, not much in the kitchen cupboard

 

[Parraren]

Any chance Feleti might want to reconsider before June 30?

Geez he's been creating havoc on that left edge over the past month.

 

[caylo]

caylo clearly said that we shouldn't be replacing Mateo with anyone outside this club, he did mention Horo as an ideal replacement as a starting backrower and that may well be the case but you would have to assume that we have money to spend and how I read it, we should be spending it on fringe first graders (depth)...that would be absolutely ludicrious to replace 2 quality players with some fringe first graders..

refer: 2004.

First I see Cayless basiclly replaced by Shackelton who has been injured all year. That leaves us with Poore, Fui, Mannah and Shak as the prop rotation and with Hindy, Benny, Horo and a young backrower off the bench we essentially can have Poore, Mannah and Fui play more minutes with the shak and the bench backrower (eg Lasalo) playing Horo roll.

Now atm Poore, Cayless, Mannah and Fui all play around 40min each game (Mannah playing the least minutes) but all of them have proved to be reliable to play more minutes. I dont think we need to invest in a quality prop who will comand big dollars. I think what is more imporatant is to buy a few fringe forwards who have a small amount of experiance or somone who looks likley (i.e bulldogs did with Goodwin).

In the backrow we have 2-3 guys who are more likely to make the transition to the NRL then most backrower. Lasalo, Le Mari and Filinga have been in the system for a while just like Horo and Mateo were and provide ample depth IMO. Similar to the frontrow we may need to buy a fringe player, with our pack and its experiance I think we can afford to bring in a jnr. Mannah and Horo has flurished well. Mannah has developed faster then most props do and Horo has steadily improved. We have the perfect enviroment to bring up jnrs without adding to much pressure on them and i question why you are so reluctant to do so.

While it is dangerous to go in with no experiance player to step up lets be realistic, in this day and age we cant keep quality depth and maintain a strong roster. If any of our 4 props go down tomorrow Oake, Pele, Robenson or Allgood will have to step up.

 

[Stagger eel]

First I see Cayless basiclly replaced by Shackelton who has been injured all year. That leaves us with Poore, Fui, Mannah and Shak as the prop rotation and with Hindy, Benny, Horo and a young backrower off the bench we essentially can have Poore, Mannah and Fui play more minutes with the shak and the bench backrower (eg Lasalo) playing Horo roll.

Now atm Poore, Cayless, Mannah and Fui all play around 40min each game (Mannah playing the least minutes) but all of them have proved to be reliable to play more minutes. I dont think we need to invest in a quality prop who will comand big dollars. I think what is more imporatant is to buy a few fringe forwards who have a small amount of experiance or somone who looks likley (i.e bulldogs did with Goodwin) .

I would love to have a frontrower like Bronx Goodwin...

I don't know where you're going with by comoparing Bronx Goodwin to frontrowers but I can handle a fringe prop of Chris Armits ilk in the squad and yes we can also use Shak.

In the backrow we have 2-3 guys who are more likely to make the transition to the NRL then most backrower. Lasalo, Le Mari and Filinga have been in the system for a while just like Horo and Mateo were and provide ample depth IMO. Similar to the frontrow we may need to buy a fringe player, with our pack and its experiance I think we can afford to bring in a jnr. Mannah and Horo has flurished well. Mannah has developed faster then most props do and Horo has steadily improved. We have the perfect enviroment to bring up jnrs without adding to much pressure on them and i question why you are so reluctant to do so.

While it is dangerous to go in with no experiance player to step up lets be realistic, in this day and age we cant keep quality depth and maintain a strong roster. If any of our 4 props go down tomorrow Oake, Pele, Robenson or Allgood will have to step up.

:lol::lol:

likely to make the transition?????....honestly man, who have you been talking to?? has DA given you a blueprint of the squad for next year??

I hate to break it to you but Te Maari and Filiga have NOT been part of any eels sytem other than the fact that they're contracted to their feeder side, and Lassalo has been struggling to make Wenty's starting side ahead of 2 backrowers who are exclusively signed with Wentworthville..to even suggest that we not improve that area by simply bringing up those blokes would be bordering along the lines of lunacy..

 

[ROGUE]

First I see Cayless basiclly replaced by Shackelton who has been injured all year. That leaves us with Poore, Fui, Mannah and Shak as the prop rotation and with Hindy, Benny, Horo and a young backrower off the bench we essentially can have Poore, Mannah and Fui play more minutes with the shak and the bench backrower (eg Lasalo) playing Horo roll.

Now atm Poore, Cayless, Mannah and Fui all play around 40min each game (Mannah playing the least minutes) but all of them have proved to be reliable to play more minutes. I dont think we need to invest in a quality prop who will comand big dollars. I think what is more imporatant is to buy a few fringe forwards who have a small amount of experiance or somone who looks likley (i.e bulldogs did with Goodwin).

In the backrow we have 2-3 guys who are more likely to make the transition to the NRL then most backrower. Lasalo, Le Mari and Filinga have been in the system for a while just like Horo and Mateo were and provide ample depth IMO. Similar to the frontrow we may need to buy a fringe player, with our pack and its experiance I think we can afford to bring in a jnr. Mannah and Horo has flurished well. Mannah has developed faster then most props do and Horo has steadily improved. We have the perfect enviroment to bring up jnrs without adding to much pressure on them and i question why you are so reluctant to do so.

While it is dangerous to go in with no experiance player to step up lets be realistic, in this day and age we cant keep quality depth and maintain a strong roster. If any of our 4 props go down tomorrow Oake, Pele, Robenson or Allgood will have to step up.

Look my wife tells me i'm not really a morning person so i'll tone done my response but WTF is with the remark about bronx goodwin

 

[Gronk]

First I see Cayless basiclly replaced by Shackelton who has been injured all year. That leaves us with Poore, Fui, Mannah and Shak as the prop rotation and with Hindy, Benny, Horo and a young backrower off the bench we essentially can have Poore, Mannah and Fui play more minutes with the shak and the bench backrower (eg Lasalo) playing Horo roll.

Now atm Poore, Cayless, Mannah and Fui all play around 40min each game (Mannah playing the least minutes) but all of them have proved to be reliable to play more minutes. I dont think we need to invest in a quality prop who will comand big dollars. I think what is more imporatant is to buy a few fringe forwards who have a small amount of experiance or somone who looks likley (i.e bulldogs did with Goodwin).

In the backrow we have 2-3 guys who are more likely to make the transition to the NRL then most backrower. Lasalo, Le Mari and Filinga have been in the system for a while just like Horo and Mateo were and provide ample depth IMO. Similar to the frontrow we may need to buy a fringe player, with our pack and its experiance I think we can afford to bring in a jnr. Mannah and Horo has flurished well. Mannah has developed faster then most props do and Horo has steadily improved. We have the perfect enviroment to bring up jnrs without adding to much pressure on them and i question why you are so reluctant to do so.

While it is dangerous to go in with no experiance player to step up lets be realistic, in this day and age we cant keep quality depth and maintain a strong roster. If any of our 4 props go down tomorrow Oake, Pele, Robenson or Allgood will have to step up.

Shack was signed as a backrower not a prop to replace Caylo. Maybe you're mixing Shack up with Poore ?

 

[caylo]

Shack was signed as a backrower not a prop to replace Caylo. Maybe you're mixing Shack up with Poore ?

Yes i understand what we signed him for but If he played 20min in the frontrow and 20 min in the backrow in a game what is wrong with that.
I think Poore, Fui and Mannah can make up the other 20min.

Look my wife tells me i'm not really a morning person so i'll tone done my response but WTF is with the remark about bronx goodwin

its was a good example of a player that was solid in firstgrade at best and was signned cheep but did his job very well. That is the sort of player we needed to look at. Merrin just signed a contract with St George and would have been the type of player we needed to look at.

Goodwin was a bad example because he is a winger and i was talking about a prop but it was the best example that came to mind.

likely to make the transition?????....honestly man, who have you been talking to?? has DA given you a blueprint of the squad for next year??

I hate to break it to you but Te Maari and Filiga have NOT been part of any eels sytem other than the fact that they're contracted to their feeder side, and Lassalo has been struggling to make Wenty's starting side ahead of 2 backrowers who are exclusively signed with Wentworthville..to even suggest that we not improve that area by simply bringing up those blokes would be bordering along the lines of lunacy..

As far as I am aware, any player that is signed to wenty can be elevated to parramatta (i thought that was cleared up last year). Te Maari, Filinga and Lasalo have all been in the system for a while. Some people made the comment that Mateo and Horo, but with our current pack and all their experiance it is probably the perfect enviroment to bring up a jnr.

We can agree to disagree but I dont see the point in spending 300K on a backrower when we can spend 50-100K on a jnr to do a job. I dont expect them to be super-stars in the first year but they all have the attributes to make it.

 

[Stagger eel]

Goodwin was a bad example because he is a winger and i was talking about a prop but it was the best example that came to mind. .

I'll give you one..Ryan Tandy!

As far as I am aware, any player that is signed to wenty can be elevated to parramatta (i thought that was cleared up last year). Te Maari, Filinga and Lasalo have all been in the system for a while. Some people made the comment that Mateo and Horo, but with our current pack and all their experiance it is probably the perfect enviroment to bring up a jnr.

We can agree to disagree but I dont see the point in spending 300K on a backrower when we can spend 50-100K on a jnr to do a job. I dont expect them to be super-stars in the first year but they all have the attributes to make it.

I'd like to ask you how long has Te Maari and Filiga been in the Parramatta system because I can't remember them ever been invited to train with the fulltime squad..

As far as I'm aware, 1 player has been invited to train with Parra whilst exclusively contracted to Wenty and that's Tim Mortimer, someone can correct me there but he is the only one...

the only way for us not to sign an established backrower to cover for the loss of Mateo would be if we signed a big name outside back on a sh*tload of money..

 

[caylo]

I'd like to ask you how long has Te Maari and Filiga been in the Parramatta system because I can't remember them ever been invited to train with the fulltime squad..

As far as I'm aware, 1 player has been invited to train with Parra whilst exclusively contracted to Wenty and that's Tim Mortimer, someone can correct me there but he is the only one...

the only way for us not to sign an established backrower to cover for the loss of Mateo would be if we signed a big name outside back on a sh*tload of money..

Te Marrri and Filings have probably been around for 3-4 years, not in parramatta system but both have played for bulldogs. Te Maari made his first grade debu in 2006 and played 32 first grade game (30 games in 3 years for the dogs)

Horo and Mateo were much the same, playing in jnr teams for a few years before making their debu. I'm not saying bank on them, rather pick up one or two forwards who are players that can do a job (Troy Thompson, Trevor Thurling, Dane Tilse). Like i said we can agree to disagree but if we can keep out core players like 1, 6, 7, 9 we can build a team around that rather then pay overs for backs and forwards with no direction.

 

[Stagger eel]

Te Marrri and Filings have probably been around for 3-4 years, not in parramatta system but both have played for bulldogs. Te Maari made his first grade debu in 2006 and played 32 first grade game (30 games in 3 years for the dogs)

Horo and Mateo were much the same, playing in jnr teams for a few years before making their debu. I'm not saying bank on them, rather pick up one or two forwards who are players that can do a job (Troy Thompson, Trevor Thurling, Dane Tilse). Like i said we can agree to disagree but if we can keep out core players like 1, 6, 7, 9 we can build a team around that rather then pay overs for backs and forwards with no direction.

so you meant in general??..ok :roll:

first things first, lets see if DA re-signs the 3 players you mentioned to Parra contracts and then i'd be happy to tell you that I was wrong...

 

[Jake the snake]

Just heard Sika Manu, Blair and Hodkinson maybe all Bulldogs bound.

 

[Maroubra Eel]

Just heard Sika Manu, Blair and Hodkinson maybe all Bulldogs bound.

Everyone off contract is bulldogs bound.

 

[Craig Johnston]

shackleton started as a prop for the rooters on half a dozen occasions, he certainly has the size for it.

his injury impacting his mobility might force the issue tbh.

pat ohanlon will fill some backrow minutes next season, todd lowrie would fit nicely for depth, but we would need some go forward in the backrow, someone like joe galuvao hmmmmm........

 

[Gronk]

Nice one Ivan. Sign those two muppets from the Eels on long term deals and now you bail out.

 

[TheParraboy]

Nice one Ivan. Sign those two muppets from the Eels on long term deals and now you bail out.

Maybe Daniel Anderson will be the new warriors coach? :sarcasm: