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Fifita

shaggs

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f**k me. If we are close to figure he wants. 650 I reckon, then just give it to him. He is worth that to sponsors and fans. Surely squabbling over 50k is not the worth the trauma of playing against him.

Just give it to him. Especially when there are teams ready to pay him much more.

Idiots and asylum anyone?,,,
 

Card Shark

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Lets not forget, if he re-signs with us, for the figure he has asked from us, he is taking 100k less than the Dragons and Rabbits have offered, and 200k less than the Eels were going to offer

If this is true & he goes, good luck to him & more fool us.

I loved the movie moneyball because it was all about a professional sports team making the most out of the salary cap by buying players of value. Credit to Flanno because he has built a quality squad around these principles.

If we were to secure Fifita for $100 to $200k less than the going rate, that is absolute value.

He is a superstar of the game & a ready-made replacement for Gal after next year. Get it done sharks....or the premiership is as far away as ever.
 

Inferno

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Dont think for a second people have a word in Gals ear & saying mate, stay out of the comments about my negotiations. it doesnt help anybody when you say im a certain deal for the Sharks. Like he did last week?
Enough of the Gallen hate FMD Some of you blokes would boo Santa Clause.

Well maybe if the merkin didn't want to get boo'd he should stop wearing dragon colours.
 

Ausguy

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Cut your wrist and end it mate.

Oh god the suicide end it joke. Never been done before.

Why are you cranky? All I'm saying is 100k off one offer and 200k off another isn't close.

Feels like we are walking into a Ferrari yard with a budget to buy a Holden.
 

carcharias

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f**k me. If we are close to figure he wants. 650 I reckon, then just give it to him. He is worth that to sponsors and fans. Surely squabbling over 50k is not the worth the trauma of playing against him.

Just give it to him. Especially when there are teams ready to pay him much more.

Idiots and asylum anyone?,,,

there is not one word I can argue with there.
 

Ausguy

Coach
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f**k me. If we are close to figure he wants. 650 I reckon, then just give it to him. He is worth that to sponsors and fans. Surely squabbling over 50k is not the worth the trauma of playing against him.

Just give it to him. Especially when there are teams ready to pay him much more.

Idiots and asylum anyone?,,,

It's not 50. It's 100 or 200 so 500 or 1M over the contract life.

If cb4 or anyone else wonders why I'm saying why bother ^ that's why!

We are unfortunately out of league on this one. Reefy wants people to be realistic.... There it is.
 

Card Shark

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It might be $200k over 4 years.

Not so much when you pocket, say $2.8 million.

Who gives a shit about the $100k ya don't earn, after tax.

If he's prepared to take a fair bit less than other offers to stay, don't insult him by not meeting him 1/2 way.
 

cb4

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Geez. I will dumb it down for you.

He has asked us for an amount, which working from my own stand point is 650k.

The Dragons and Souths have offered 750k. So he is taking 100k Less to stay.

If we arent at 650k, say we are at 600k, then its 150k less than he could earn.

The Eels were prepared to offer 850-900 but pulled the plug.
 

cb4

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Lets not forget, if he re-signs with us, for the figure he has asked from us, he is taking 100k less than the Dragons and Rabbits have offered, and 200k less than the Eels were going to offer.

So, if we are short again, it still adds up.

I did say it earlier.
 

shaggs

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Cb is saying, he will take less money to stay with us.

650 is what he wants. Fair enough.

Souths, drags and eels will need to pay him around 800 for him to leave. But he will only consider those offers if we don't and/or won't come up with 650.

Simple really.
 

webShark

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Cb is saying, he will take less money to stay with us.

650 is what he wants. Fair enough.

Souths, drags and eels will need to pay him around 800 for him to leave. But he will only consider those offers if we don't and/or won't come up with 650.

Simple really.

So he went to the Waratahs to watch the game or is their offer below 650 or no offer made?

Remind me again what have we spent on Toops so far?

It is not possible to know what we can afford to offer without knowing our full cap position. I do know something is wrong if we cant retain Fifita, Wade and Lichaa. Fifita is an elite player, Wade good standard and Lichaa zero first grade games.

Can't retain all 3 something wrong. We have to adopt the Manly model. Good Top 17 and the rest nuffies. Who cares about NSW Cup.

The following are nuffies:-

Stapo, Gards,Jono,Eric, Ayshford,Prior, Vave,IDG, Morris, Feki,Arona,Junior,Robinson, D Fifita

Wouldn't be missed

Toops, Robbo,Heino,Gibbs

Essentials

Gall,TC,Fifita,Wade,Lewis,Flash,Lichaa,Beau,Leutele

Worth Trying

Penani,Holmes,Brown

By my reckoning there are 18 players who could be traded or let go to keep Wade,Fifita and Lichaa.

Just replace traded nuffies with cheaper nuffies. Jeez the 200 of us who attend NSW Cup will get over it.

How can the Dogs get Lichaa and retain Ennis?

Fifita as Reefy said is a wildcard. Far better than expected. But Lichaa and Wade c'mon.

Who manages our cap Flanno,Sharp and Gall?

Next we will be told Holmes has to go to keep Brown!

Retention and cap management is not our strong point.

I do reckon 50% of this forum could manage the cap better than the club. Jeez we accidentally exceeded it last year. I could have saved us the 100k fine. So employ me for less than the fine and we are better off:)
 
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shaggs

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We spent shite loads on toops for his first contract. At the time, he was an aussie rep and we couldn't attract a 45 year old divorcee at the vinyl room on a Friday night. We always paid overs to get someone.

Fifita is a guy who will get 800 plus per year on the open market and we haven't offered him what he wants to stay. He is willing to take 150k less than his market value to stay.

It's not the same as paying toops overs to get here.
 

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