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Fifita

SharkShocked

Bench
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Agreed Cardy. Flabbergasted, even. Visiting a friend in prison is a positive thing to be commended for. As you say, the message on his arm was private and cryptic. In no way does it support any criminal activity. How the NRL can twist this around to the point that even supposedly sensible RL supporters, some Sharks fans no less, join in with this petty minded boo-boys chorus is just beyond me.

I for one would give Fifita or anybody else a big thumbs up for making the time to visit a friend in dire straits. If there is more to the story, as some have insinuated, the NRL should do some growing up themselves and speak up about it.

In theory this is great thinking.

However given the notoriety of the case and the heinousness of what he did and the way in which it has been received, the public would not get behind this, whether it was Fifita or someone with a shiny image.

I just don't think this would have ever been spinnable into a positive light.
 

sladden road

Juniors
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Whats cowardly is the silence, the dragging of the feet in the hope that it will go away attitude of the NRL. I believe they realise they got it wrong big time when the Mal Meniga letter came out because since then its been silence except for Grants grow up quote the other day. WTF, morons.
Where is the self proclaimed moral barometer Kent and his puppet Ikin to champion the high road and tell us how to live and breath and what to think ( insert crickets chirping ).Meanwhile AF sits and stews and worries.Its such bullshit. They are merkins. Fair enough he has caused some of this, but not all.
You know what makes me vomit the most? if he plays their stupid little game, does the fox/murdoch interview next year say round 6, keeps his nose clean says the right things kisses the right ass its all forgiven like cruiser and touchie in the aussie team, or fire up lads on the Fox couch. Are we really this f**king dumb.
Get f**ked.
We won.
Fiffita won it for us you ass kissing Cam Smith loving, Kent ass kissing, Daily tele agenda driving, bias NRL 360 on Fox, NRL scandal hiding, Mal Meniga hypocrite, Channel Nine Bronco loving ,4 of the best players of all time in one stupid maroon jersey no wonder we won how ever many games in a row of origin.

Fiffs won it for the Sharks in 2016 so stick that up your double standards

and smoke it.
 

snout

First Grade
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I think there could be a lesson in it for us.

Imagine if we had sent a press release or got a journalist involved BEFORE he visited KL in gaol... then it gets some positive media exposure about the great work he's doing to help rehabilitate an inmate and friend.

The stupid thing is that the only difference between this 'ideal' scenario and what actually occurred, is the media's involvement. He still visited an inmate and positively helped to rehabilitate him.

This type of thing is why Lyall is so big on keeping the media involved, when most of us just want them to piss off.

So why didn't the 'ideal' scenario occur on this occasion? There's our lesson to learn...
Because it was Loveridge.
Imagine if he said he was going to cheer up Milat. Hard to put a posifive spin on it.

Grants comments about acting like grownup....what a prick.
 

shaggs

Coach
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does anybody know if the coward punch laws have had any affect on coward punch incidents?
There wouldn't be any way to work out whether that has had an affect or whether it was the lock out laws. From my experience in Sydney and speaking to the head of surgery at StVs, the lockout laws dece asked the violence and violence related injuries, which in turn led to a decrease in one punch incidents.
Less drunks around causing shit at all houRs, who then get "revenge" by decking someone from behind.
Chicken and egg scenario.
I do know that kings cross has changed heaps since I've worked there in the last ten years, plus there is plenty of business gone broke
 

Frenzy.

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does anybody know if the coward punch laws have had any affect on coward punch incidents?

None of it works.

The Sydney lock out period failed as it just moved people out of the CBD, particularly up to Newtown. Baird looks like scrapping it now

Sobering Up Centre - I worked there for 3 months with the police. Went weeks without a single drunk. Is now closed.

One punch law - drunks will be drunks wherever they are. There's no stopping it
 

Frenzy.

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Todd Greenburg has a vested, personal interest in it all due to his relationship with the victims father.

He should also be stood down pending investigation.

They are all charnts. Even the Kelly's.
 

Frenzy.

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...l-medal-to-michael-ennis-20161103-gshk3k.html --- more here.

"They have thrown him under a bus, put it in reverse and then gone over him again," the statement said. "Leading into the grand final, Andrew was not in a good head space. He was told his contract could be ripped up, was panicking and went into a bit of depression. It didn't show [on the field] because he played so well but he was emotionally wrecked up until the grand final.

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Fifita and his inspiration Michael Ennis embrace after winning the 2016 NRL grand final in October. Photo: Getty Images
"It is about his welfare … all he wants is to get closure. We have had to consider other things but only in case he loses his registration. If that doesn't happen, he isn't going anywhere. He likes the coach, the club and his teammates."

A rugby league official suggested Fifita take a rugby union sabbatical while his career remained in limbo. However, the former Tiger would only consider the 15-man code if he was unable to play in the NRL.

Fifita's management has been disappointed by comments made by ARLC chairman John Grant calling for the front rower to "start behaving like an adult".

"The officials wouldn't even make time to see him after we had attempted to meet, but then he is told to grow up," the statement said. "We want the issue resolved because it has caused Andrew serious mental health issues and we need to know where he stands."

The statement also clarified the reasons behind Fifita's decision to visit Loveridge while he was in jail.

"[Loveridge's] parents rang Andrew because Andrew knew him, their son was in jail, was depressed and thinking about committing suicide himself," the statement said. "Andrew went and visited him with another person on the request of his family. Now he has a wife and family at home wondering each day when a decision will happen on his future."

Mention was made of the support from the Sharks, particularly coach Shane Flanagan.

"He was in an emotional state in the four weeks leading up to the grand final," the statement said. "The state he was in – he was having meltdowns before the games – he shouldn't have been there, let alone played so well."


Un f**king believable!!!

There was another article I intended to post which I read on the StalkBook page. Andrew was in Griffith visiting his old school. Took the NRL trophy with him.

He is quotes as saying he was cleared by the police. If so, why are these NRL imbeciles still even running with it?
 

NrlVader

Juniors
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Todd Greenburg has a vested, personal interest in it all due to his relationship with the victims father.

He should also be stood down pending investigation.

They are all charnts. Even the Kelly's.

Speaking of the Kelly gang.

The father started a charity in memory of the first Kelly son who was killed in Kings Cross. Donations totalled $250K for the year and he took out $125K as a salary for himself. The mother started a public speaking circuit talking about their ordeal and work. Th father used the younger son as a political pawn to deliver his messages and was consequently bullied. Spent on day at St Paul's college at Sydney Uni before bullied out.

The Kelly gang have to a certain extent brought the death of the 2nd son with their campaign to lock down Sydney.

T Greenberg a family friend has taken their stance with A Fifita which really has nothing to do with death of the Kelly gang's sons. He was supporting a mate like we all do.
 

Frenzy.

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Speaking of the Kelly gang.

The father started a charity in memory of the first Kelly son who was killed in Kings Cross. Donations totalled $250K for the year and he took out $125K as a salary for himself. The mother started a public speaking circuit talking about their ordeal and work. Th father used the younger son as a political pawn to deliver his messages and was consequently bullied. Spent on day at St Paul's college at Sydney Uni before bullied out.

The Kelly gang have to a certain extent brought the death of the 2nd son with their campaign to lock down Sydney.

T Greenberg a family friend has taken their stance with A Fifita which really has nothing to do with death of the Kelly gang's sons. He was supporting a mate like we all do.

I see what you did there :)
 

Generalzod

Immortal
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Would circumstances be any different if say Lovridge king hit a kid that come from Blacktown high school instead of Kings, would there have been the same outpouring of grief, would there have been campaign for the lockout laws?
 

coolumsharkie

Referee
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yeah thats the first one, which I posted in the NRL forum. The other was the icing on the cake.

Seriously, we all need to not drop this ball... This is a f**king travesty,

"They ran over him and reversed the truck and went over him again", pretty much sums it up. This is an individual player that has prior very public history for depression leading to suicidal thoughts and actions. Is Greenburg hoping on the headlines for a bit of exposure? TFH?

Fifsta brought us a granny, it's the least we can do, make it louder and pressure these dumb merkins into submission. Can't hide behind these media tossers for ever, everything comes out in the wash.



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I email the NRL weekly & have never had a response. MAke sure you include all emails in the next you send for history. Use appropriate language & show you support multiple teams & are a member. Ask for answers to the questions we all have been asking.
yesterday i wrote about the NRL site not showing one thing about any of the 5 Fifitas articles of the last week. But they published Grants grow up piece.
 

Marchad

Juniors
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Would circumstances be any different if say Lovridge king hit a kid that come from Blacktown high school instead of Kings, would there have been the same outpouring of grief, would there have been campaign for the lockout laws?
No as the kid from Blacktown high school would of got back up and decked him.
 

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