First Grade Knights vs Rabbitohs

[Jono078]

Exactly. I feel we can drop him now. Simpson, Paterson, Taia and Ciraldo who had his best game yet can all take his position. He needs a bit of a reality check in reserves to clean things up. If we can persist with his efforts in FG why cant we persist with Dureau's eh Karma? nuh im not going there, as I said, no more from me

 

[General Knight]

In the meantime, Bailey is playing 6 for as much as his strong defence as anything else, and he has been a key this year as to why our team has been so solid defensively.

For his supposed 'strong defence' and being 'key' to why our team has been solid defensively I think him being in the 6 starves our attack of a alot of tries each game.

 

[Karmawave]

For his supposed 'strong defence' and being 'key' to why our team has been solid defensively I think him being in the 6 starves our attack of a alot of tries each game.

That would be all well and good if Dureau had the skills to turn our attack into some high scoring machine that could compensate for the defensive let down he brings when Bailey isn't there.

I'd rather what we have now, than lose 34-22.

 

[Karmawave]

If we can persist with his efforts in FG why cant we persist with Dureau's eh Karma? nuh im not going there, as I said, no more from me

But we can't "persist" with Dureau, when he isn't starting the game to begin with?

He hasn't started a game for god knows how long.

Someone with no life might be able to come up with how many minutes on the field Dureau has played since Round 10. Be quite interesting.

EDIT: Quick look on Daily Telegraph stats, he has averaged 32 minutes from Round 12 onwards.

 

[General Knight]

That would be all well and good if Dureau had the skills to turn our attack into some high scoring machine that could compensate for the defensive let down he brings when Bailey isn't there.

Kinda hard to do that when one half is rotting away in reserves and the other half is playing limited minutes and out of position each game.

It's a team sport, it's not just about Walsh or Dureau themselves making the team score more points but the fact that it allows guys like Mullen to move into his more natural position and play his more natural game.

At the end of the day, we aint going anywhere by having Bailey at 6 and come end of the year we will still be at sqaure one - starting next season with inexperienced halves again. Afterall, it is suppose to be a rebuilding year.

 

[Hanscholo]

I can recall never believing the parramatta team sheet he used to put out either. I think he is just doesnt want anyone to sit down and plan and attack at one particular side like they all do.

 

[IanG]

Will we need a holy handgrinade or are we be Knights of Valour?

 

[knights_86]

surely cant be the side that runs out, youd think at least one of bedsy, mullo, doogs and simmo will end up dropping out cos of injury?

dureau has to be there, bails hasnt offered much in the past month, uate sh*ts on vuna. probably similar to what many others have said but heres who i hope runs out:

gids
mcmanus
sau
doogs
uate
mullo
scotty
tolar
bedsy
white
simmo
patto
taia

bails
house
faaso
wicks

 

[Jono078]

Dureau has to play when you think about it.

Bailey and Mullen are carrying some injuries so one of them will break down. Mullen always does. Then Dureau will come on atleast.

 

[Joker's Wild]

Of course he has a high work rate in defence. He can make all those extra tackles he caused from his moronic penalties :lol:

I could live with him playing NSW Cup to be honest , so he has a bit of a wake up call.

He is no doubt a solid 80 minute footballer on his day, but at the expense of Corey Patterson? Hmmm...

To be honest, House is not the only player giving away moronic penalties so thats hardly a good reason to drop him.

Corey will be on the bench and get the game time where he is most effective, there will be no cost there.

 

[Serc]

Big problem.

Cummins caned the Knights in NZ earlier this year, and again in another game that slips my mind.

Not a good referee for a must win game - at least we're at home.

ALL the refs have caned us this year mate we're f**ked either way!

lol oh goodie, the weekly "OH NO NOT THAT REF!" post. who cares, they're all sh*thouse.

What about the weekly "Scott Dureau is not a firstgrade quality halfback" post too eh?

 

[KniGhTs BaTTLeR]

Being at home is no comfort these days. I honestly can't remember the last game we won there.

 

[Jobdog]

lol oh goodie, the weekly "OH NO NOT THAT REF!" post. who cares, they're all sh*thouse.

After reading through this thread, the above quote is undoubtedly the most accurate yet :lol:

 

[Jobdog]

Being at home is no comfort these days. I honestly can't remember the last game we won there.

Gold Coast - round 7 - won 13-12

 

[perverse]

What about the weekly "Scott Dureau is not a firstgrade quality halfback" post too eh?

i'm learning to tune it out.

 

[Yosh]

Duearu is still young, and I think it is really good he is trying things. Read Joey's autobiography, he talks about how he wasnt that great when younger but as a halfback if you have the skills making the right decsions on the field comes with experience and good coaching. We definately have a good coach (was going to say great but yeah held back) and he is trying things, seeing what works!!! Sure now say our of 10 plays only 3 or 4 pull off, but as he gets more games under his belt he will start getting 8 or 9 of those 10 plays right with each play being very very good ones.

Lets look at his pros and cons:

Cons:
-Not that strong physically
-Deadset has no accelration
-Making errors and stupid decisons

Pros
-Has great kicking and pass ability (not as in he makes really good kicks and passess all the time more that he has the ability to)
-Organising skills and natural leadership there
-Young and enthusiastic

I am sure I have missed out alot but realistically his experience will make up for his lack of speed and physical strenght (which I think will develop as he gets little older anyway) and fine tune his already present natural ability and before we know it 7. Duearu and 6. Mullen will be the best halves combo in the comp!!!

 

[Karmawave]

Dureau turns 22 next week, and when lined up against other halfback ages in the competition it's not that young in NRL terms. Not anymore. Especially when you consider many of the other halfbacks aged around him have been top quality for multiple seasons which suggests they were performing at a top level at 19,20,21,22.

 

[Yosh]

Dureau turns 22 next week, and when lined up against other halfback ages in the competition it's not that young in NRL terms. Not anymore. Especially when you consider many of the other halfbacks aged around him have been top quality for multiple seasons which suggests they were performing at a top level at 19,20,21,22.

He has only played like 3 games or something of FG... At 22 we are looking at 10 plus years out of him so you know cut him some slack. Joey played some of his best footy in 05 and 06 and how old was he then? That was like his 13th or 14th season in FG... Looking at some of the best halves now like JT, he was nothing special at 22 he was playing for the doggies and who would of thought he would go on to be what he is now? Scotty Prince was okay but nothing special either at 22 and players like Benji are freaks doing their natural thing running stepping flick passing, you know and he makes lots of mistakes to, drop balls, crappy passes, horrendous defense but his X-Factor makes him look better then others.

Duearu definately doesnt have the Benji factor however just looking at him you can see he is the kind of player you can direct the team around the park scheming his next move and doing things for the players around him, directing the ball to the right side of the field, putting in good kicks for field position, give good ball early so players like Mullen who strive in open space can do their thing. Come on Duearu isnt Joey he aint going to make every touch of the ball a Midas touch however he has all the ability in the world to go on and become a player I think that would remind us of Stacy Jones... Thoughts?

 

[Joker's Wild]

Dureau turns 22 next week, and when lined up against other halfback ages in the competition it's not that young in NRL terms. Not anymore. Especially when you consider many of the other halfbacks aged around him have been top quality for multiple seasons which suggests they were performing at a top level at 19,20,21,22.

The biggest factor that has been against Scotty is his lack of NRL experience. You have to remember that he has only played 13 top grade games and a big chunk of those were at hooker and coming off the bench restricting his game time at his best position, halfback.

Furthermore, up until rd 3 last season no other halfbacks at the club got anywhere near FG due to one A.Johns being at the club. Walshy, Scotty and the like were well and truely held back much longer than they would have been if they were playing at any other club.

Karma I feel you are being too critical of Scotty and are holding him up to players who simply have had far more top grade experience due to the lack of competition in the halfback position.

22 is still a young age to be playing footy and I think with a little more top grade experience he will develop into a great FG halfback.

 

[Jono078]

Give up guys, nothing will change Karma..

Look at Daine Laurie, made his debut at 23, but no he must be pretty average if he didnt make his debut when he was 19..

Karma has weird logic.