Folau turns back on Eels to play rugby union

[bartman]

Ok, I have to be careful with what I say as it can be taken the wrong way by any legal party that might browse the forum. In that sense, I want to be respectful for the forum when I talk about this subject.

Essentially, the NRL has their own idea of what 'star' players should be getting under the cap, so as to limit how much of their salary can be subsidized by third party sponsors - apparently there are no limits to how much a player can be paid by third-party sponsors in general. This means that clubs that have more third-party sponsors may be able to get more star players with subsidized contracts under the cap than others, hence why the NRL tries to set an estimated value on them so that no club can gain an unfair advantage.

Again, this is purely speculations and I don't want it taken the wrong way. Whether you believe this or not is purely up to you - I am not sure if it is true, but if it is, then it explains why Edwards mentioned a salary cap issue and yet most still think Izzy will sign with us.

Interesting.

If Folau really wants to play for us, then he'll resist offers from other NRL clubs until the apparent bargaining process between our club and the NRL about his non-third party value is sorted. No-one can else stop the deal going through - by what you've said Boxy it's purely between our club and the NRL and the gap between our lower value and the NRL's higher value. It sounds like we can wear the higher of the two contract values, but are questioning why we should?

By publicly courting Izzy prior to and during the membership renewal period, the club is getting some much-need positive publicity about potential squad inclusions, at a time when people are making a decision whether or not to renew after two spoon-ish seasons. So you can see why the club has chosen to play this through the media, and tonight's Members email referred to above... imo it wouldn't be taking the same approach were renewals not currently at stake.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

By publicly courting Izzy prior to and during the membership renewal period, the club is getting some much-need positive publicity about potential squad inclusions, at a time when people are making a decision whether or not to renew after two spoon-ish seasons. So you can see why the club has chosen to play this through the media, and tonight's Members email referred to above... imo it wouldn't be taking the same approach were renewals not currently at stake.

:lol:

I knew you were still reading my posts you f**ken bitch.

 

[born an eel]

time for the salary cap to be challenged in court, restraint of trade.

 

[IFR33K]

Interesting.

If Folau really wants to play for us, then he'll resist offers from other NRL clubs until the apparent bargaining process between our club and the NRL about his non-third party value is sorted. No-one can else stop the deal going through - by what you've said Boxy it's purely between our club and the NRL and the gap between our lower value and the NRL's higher value. It sounds like we can wear the higher of the two contract values, but are questioning why we should?

By publicly courting Izzy prior to and during the membership renewal period, the club is getting some much-need positive publicity about potential squad inclusions, at a time when people are making a decision whether or not to renew after two spoon-ish seasons. So you can see why the club has chosen to play this through the media, and tonight's Members email referred to above... imo it wouldn't be taking the same approach were renewals not currently at stake.

Funny you should say that Bart, because I had an interesting chat today with someone close to Isaac Moses.

He told me that when Izzy was to return to the NRL, it was always going to be with the eels.

The reason T-rex signed with the dogs, and never really considered the eels offer, was because their agent didnt want them both at the 1 club, because it would limit the $$$ each player would earn.

Hopefully this saga gets sorted, 1 way or the other.

 

[Maroubra Eel]

Funny you should say that Bart, because I had an interesting chat today with someone close to Isaac Moses.

He told me that when Izzy was to return to the NRL, it was always going to be with the eels.

The reason T-rex signed with the dogs, and never really considered the eels offer, was because their agent didnt want them both at the 1 club, because it would limit the $$$ each player would earn.

Hopefully this saga gets sorted, 1 way or the other.

I don't get it.

 

[IFR33K]

I don't get it.

You dont need to. ;-);-)

 

[Tony Bongo]

If this is true, surely the Lockyer at 200 000 for the broncos is precedent. You can't say izzy is valued any where near the Australian captain

I completely agree. Although I have questioned other areas of our clubs administration, I am completely behind them on this. It seems glaringly obvious that there is a double standard and that our club is being treated unfairly. We are now being painted into a corner and I can't imagine how difficult it must be to make decisions around whether to promote/include Folau in membership brochures and other marketing strategies etc. Time is of the essence and I really do feel for all those concerned right now. It would seem that our club is being severely disadvantaged by this compared to how other clubs are being treated.

 

[Suitman]

Funny you should say that Bart, because I had an interesting chat today with someone close to Isaac Moses.

Your cousin?

 

[bartman]

Pou, our posts are only visible to me now if I click on the forums without first logging in.

I tend to only log in when I click to post my first reply in a thread for the day, after which your posts remain invisible (see below).

But yes, this time I couldn't help but debunk another opinion presented as fact in my first post of the day ;-).

 

[bartman]

Funny you should say that Bart, because I had an interesting chat today with someone close to Isaac Moses.

He told me that when Izzy was to return to the NRL, it was always going to be with the eels.

Makes sense, maybe wanting to play at the same club as his brother. That'd be enough reason not to take a higher bid from another club, and to hold out for the deal that you really want.

Maybe despite his defection to AFL it's not all about the money for Folau?

 

[Suitman]

Pou, our posts are only visible to me now if I click on the forums without first logging in.

I tend to only log in when I click to post my first reply in a thread for the day, after which your posts remain invisible (see below).

But yes, this time I couldn't help but debunk another opinion presented as fact in my first post of the day ;-).

If you know how it works, wouldn't you try and avoid it?
Just asking.

 

[parra-matters]

all this stuffing around sets izzy back with his pre-season. The NRL instead of using him as a massive marketing model for the game in western sydney would rather see him sit on the sidelines it seems.
We really do have idiots running the game don't we?
Also it's time to get a independant person in to police the salary cap not a person with ties to the game and clubs he played for.

 

[bartman]

I am trying Suity, but years of habit of how I view the site/log in are hard to break.

And since Pou called me on the content in my post, why not be honest about the circumstances?

 

[Suitman]

I am trying Suity,

Ahhm. Ok.

 

[bartman]

We really do have idiots running the game don't we?

We have no-one running the game, still no NRL CEO.

All we have is a Board of 8 people that meet occasionally to talk about high level strategies, but haven't employed someone with the daily responsibility to ensure the paid workforce of the game operationalise and implement these things, or make the necessary operational decisions.

 

[bartman]

Ahhm. Ok.

Ok, good.:?

 

[Maroubra Eel]

all this stuffing around sets izzy back with his pre-season. The NRL instead of using him as a massive marketing model for the game in western sydney would rather see him sit on the sidelines it seems.
We really do have idiots running the game don't we?
Also it's time to get a independant person in to police the salary cap not a person with ties to the game and clubs he played for.

Can't Izzy train with us?

 

[IFR33K]

all this stuffing around sets izzy back with his pre-season. The NRL instead of using him as a massive marketing model for the game in western sydney would rather see him sit on the sidelines it seems.
We really do have idiots running the game don't we?
Also it's time to get a independant person in to police the salary cap not a person with ties to the game and clubs he played for.

This.

Although Ive got mixed feelings about Izzy potentially coming to the eels, the NRL can really stick 1 up the AFL, by allowing him to sign with the eels.

Surely that dont want to see the back of him again.

 

[IFR33K]

Your cousin?

Shouldn't you be in bed little boy, and not logged into your fathers account?

 

[parra-matters]

Can't Izzy train with us?

no because insurance wouldn't cover him.