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Former Kangaroos star Ian Roberts will reveal rugby league has left him with brain da

LESStar58

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Roberts on Sunrise now saying that he was misreprerented.

He stated that he hasn't noticed any affects. He did get tests to show that he has suffered brain damage however.

Okay so the whole segment is just a beat up.

didn't the chardonnay socialists over at the ABC do one a few years back with rugby league being the focal point despite it claiming to be a broad overview of all sports?
 

man2iel_

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Where is the consistency re: concussed players - Will Hopoate was in all sorts at some stage there in the first half and like Mannag, should have been off for examination.
 

Red Bear

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Where is the consistency re: concussed players - Will Hopoate was in all sorts at some stage there in the first half and like Mannag, should have been off for examination.
Once you're a Mormon they assume you don't use your brain anyway?
 

TimmyB

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Saw the Sunrise segment because my housemate puts that bs brain rotting garbage on every morning.

David Koch said something alone the lines of "I know the AFL won't let people continue playing when they suffer a concussion". This schlepper who was also on the show, potentially a doctor, said "I grew up playing Rugby League but I only let my kids play AFL and Basketball because they take the issue seriously". Nevermind the fact we have outlawed the shoulder charge and have rules preventing players from returning to the field after suffering a concussion. The misinformation is infuriating. It's going to take a lot to change Rugby League's image. Anyone who doesn't understand this is something we need to do is kidding.

Anyway, that's a bit of a tangent so apologies.
 
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Roberts on Sunrise now saying that he was misrepresented.

He stated that he hasn't noticed any affects. He did get tests to show that he has suffered brain damage however.

He also retired over 15 years ago, and played in an era with significantly more leniency when it came to high tackles and biff.
 

nqcowboy87

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i think this a game changer as matty said cause at the end of the day its your brain and the results are in we just cant be so lax with it anymore. i dont think its the end of contact sport as some alarmists would think, but certain measures must be taken such as mandatory sidelining for victims of k'os
 

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Saw the Sunrise segment because my housemate puts that bs brain rotting garbage on every morning.

David Koch said something alone the lines of "I know the AFL won't let people continue playing when they suffer a concussion". This schlepper who was also on the show, potentially a doctor, said "I grew up playing Rugby League but I only let my kids play AFL and Basketball because they take the issue seriously". Nevermind the fact we have outlawed the shoulder charge and have rules preventing players from returning to the field after suffering a concussion. The misinformation is infuriating. It's going to take a lot to change Rugby League's image. Anyone who doesn't understand this is something we need to do is kidding.

Anyway, that's a bit of a tangent so apologies.
it has nothing to do with the image

it's an agenda

i recorded it and if a doctor said the AFL don't let concussed payers continue then he didn't see the show as they played a clip of an AFL player being knocked out who was allowed to stay on the field. they then showed him being interviewed on the field and he had no idea where he was

here is a story on it http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...terview-concerns-st-kilda-20130721-2qc1g.html

here is a clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdhngREbK1M

if Sunrise report things like the way you have described you should make a complaint here http://www.freetv.com.au/Content_Common/OnlineComplaintStep1.aspx

News must be presented fair and balanced and factually

what you are describing seems like a clear breach of section 4 http://www.freetv.com.au/media/Code...ision_Industry_Code_of_Practice_July 2013.pdf
 
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it has nothing to do with the image

it's an agenda

i recorded it and if a doctor said the AFL don't let concussed payers continue then he didn't see the show as they played a clip of an AFL player being knocked out who was allowed to stay on the field. they then showed him being interviewed on the field and he had no idea where he was

if Sunrise report things like the way you have described you should make a complaint here http://www.freetv.com.au/Content_Common/OnlineComplaintStep1.aspx

News must be presented fair and balanced and factually

what you are describing seems like a clear breach of section 4 http://www.freetv.com.au/media/Code...ision_Industry_Code_of_Practice_July 2013.pdf

To be fair, I don't think anyone takes what Koshie or his cohorts say seriously.
 

BranVan3000

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I think the NRL needs to look at two weeks out of the game compulsory for badly concussed players. It's the only way I can think to show the necessary level of care is being conducted. But it can't be done right now as squad sizes are too small

They need to look at doubling squad sizes over the next few years while improving these safety measures

The worry would be players being taken out. A compulsory two weeks on the sideline for the concussed player needs to be matched with that minimum punishment for the offending player
 

BunniesMan

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I can't imagine a player causing a concussion getting less than 2 weeks. Look at SBW getting 3 weeks.
 

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I think the NRL needs to look at two weeks out of the game compulsory for badly concussed players. It's the only way I can think to show the necessary level of care is being conducted. But it can't be done right now as squad sizes are too small

They need to look at doubling squad sizes over the next few years while improving these safety measures

The worry would be players being taken out. A compulsory two weeks on the sideline for the concussed player needs to be matched with that minimum punishment for the offending player


I'd rather we base decisions on how or if a player needs to rest up on decent peer reviewed research mixed with players having the right to make some decisions about their own welfare. I would imagine there is some significant studies being undertaken after the NFl case about how long a sportsman needs to rest after a concussion to reduce serious risk of longer term damage?
 

Red Bear

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I don't think you can remove the risk of concussion from the game, it's contact sport.

So the management of the incident is where we need to improve, and if that means 4 weeks out after a concussion, or at the very least a rigorous testing process to prove they are ready to return to playing, i'd be all for that.

You can't expect these guys to go in full tilt then abandon them when they suffer the ill effects, player welfare should be high priority for the game
 

Springs

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http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport.../story-fniabjcr-1226852887107?from=public_rss

Todd Lowrie insists Rugby League is safe for kids despite Ian Roberts' claims writes Chris Garry...

HE was knocked out cold six days ago but grizzled Broncos forward Todd Lowrie has rubbished Ian Roberts' claims that rugby league is too dangerous for children to play.

Lowrie admits to questioning the fragility of his own brain after Canterbury Bulldogs giant Frank Pritchard flattened him with a shoulder last Friday night.

The incident occurred after Lowrie ran out of the line to put a big hit on but finished in the dressing-room dazed and unable to return.

However, despite the incident, Lowrie is adamant the code is one of the safest sports and held no grudges about Pritchard's brain-rattling effort.

Lowrie said league legend Roberts, who has been diagnosed with brain damage due to concussion, had it "completely wrong" when he told the Sunday Night programme parents should stop their kids playing contact sport.

In an expose of the dangers of repeated concussion in football Roberts, who played for Australia, said the risks of playing league were not worth the rewards.

It's quite possibly the beginning of the end of contact sport - hard contact sport - I was ignorant to just how severe the research and the medical evidence that has been gathered has become," Roberts said.

"I have got to say any parent, they have got to question the safety of their children (playing football)."

Lowrie, who has been involved in junior rugby league development during his decade as a professional, said the version of league that children played was completely different to the NRL.

"I heard Ian Roberts discouraging parents from letting their kids play and I think that is completely wrong," Lowrie told The Courier-Mail.

"I would like to say to parents that the game you see on television is nothing like the game the kids play.

"The game at the juniors level, which I have had a fair bit to do with, the stats show it is one of the safest sports available to kids because of the different rules.

"It is a completely different game."

"I love rugby league and while these things do happen they are accidents and not that common."

The incident last Friday night put Lowrie in jeopardy for tomorrow's blockbuster derby against North Queensland but the veteran forward is confident he will pass concussion tests.

He admitted the concussion he suffered and subsequent publicity from Roberts' admissions to suffering brain damage, made him think about the long-term damage he may acquire.

"It does to be honest. I would be lying if I said it didn't," Lowrie said.

"Every now and then you do think about those things. It is part and parcel of playing a contact sport.

"I have been playing the game for quite a while now, you cop knocks every now and then, but the simple answer is this is a contact sport and if you didn't want the contact you wouldn't play it.

"No one means to get knocked out. It is unfortunate and always an accident.

"If you don't want those risks you play another sport."

Todd Lowrie has common sense.
I find it amazing that the media has actually reported the issue from the opposite point of view.
 

man2iel_

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Comparing mini and mod league to the NRL shows the naivety of those who are wanting to go down that path. The 'Play Safe Code' for the young fellas coming through the juniors makes rugby league as safe as any contact sport being played in Australia. Those who argue until blue in the face that it isn't hasn't being involved with Junior Rugby League at any level in my opinion. I played from 5 until I was 30 years of age (dabbled in coaching for a few seasons) and I can safely say the game at junior level has better training initiatives, education of those coaching (and watching the games e.g. parents) and a higher level of training for those officiating the games.

Link here.
 
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