Former Panthers in the NRL

[OldPanther]

It's not a reach. It was raining, you are 20 out behind by a point. If we are in a similar position do you want the halves to play it safe or go the risky play?

Yet go the short side. Runs the risk of the outside dropping it or Warriors knocking it down.

It comes off it looks great but if it doesn't then you look the fool.

The same can be said for anything. Field goal can miss(see JT on the weekend) or it can be charged down. He made a decision and it worked. It's literally in the job description for him as a 6. If one of ours did it and it didn't work I'd be angry about it because of the emotion but I'd come around later to see the value in a playmaker with balls because both plays have the same level of risk Vs reward.

 

[BxTom]

You're reaching to make him look bad. He did everything well. Created a 2 on 1 and landed his pass on point, that's a good playmaker. You can't blame him for another players mistake.

Well he's had his 3 reasonable games for the year, so anything more and the shark are getting real value at 900k a year.

Tom

 

[mxlegend99]

It's not a reach. It was raining, you are 20 out behind by a point. If we are in a similar position do you want the halves to play it safe or go the risky play?

Yet go the short side. Runs the risk of the outside dropping it or Warriors knocking it down.

It comes off it looks great but if it doesn't then you look the fool.

Youre trying to imply a field goal is a sure thing. It's not.

If you f**k it up you are effectively ruining your chance at winning the game by giving away 7 tackles. It happens pretty regularly.

Its a risk that at best gives you a chance to goto golden point. A try is a risk that wins the game for certain. If you f**k both options up the field goal attempt is a bigger punishment for f**king it up.

Deadset. Trying to suggest a match winning decision is bad. Also he was forced into the decision by the speed of the defence. He was DEFINITELY missing the attempt if he went for it. Players regularly setup for it then get forced to run it

 

[OldPanther]

Well he's had his 3 reasonable games for the year, so anything more and the shark are getting real value at 900k a year.

Tom

Im guessing the implication here is he doesnt have consistent form. He carried us to the finals in 2016 and was injured last year so I'm not sure this is accurate.

 

[franklin2323]

The same can be said for anything. Field goal can miss(see JT on the weekend) or it can be charged down. He made a decision and it worked. It's literally in the job description for him as a 6. If one of ours did it and it didn't work I'd be angry about it because of the emotion but I'd come around later to see the value in a playmaker with balls because both plays have the same level of risk Vs reward.

Why did JT not go for the try then if it is the better option? Or in the Roosters v Storm game last week. Cronk, Munster, Smith all in that game yet the went the shots at FG

 

[franklin2323]

Youre trying to imply a field goal is a sure thing. It's not.

If you f**k it up you are effectively ruining your chance at winning the game by giving away 7 tackles. It happens pretty regularly.

Its a risk that at best gives you a chance to goto golden point. A try is a risk that wins the game for certain. If you f**k both options up the field goal attempt is a bigger punishment for f**king it up.

Deadset. Trying to suggest a match winning decision is bad. Also he was forced into the decision by the speed of the defence. He was DEFINITELY missing the attempt if he went for it. Players regularly setup for it then get forced to run it

So you'd be fine Maloney doing the same thing if we are down by one? Remembering 2 officals have been dropped for allowing the try

Or is your love of Moylan clouding your judgement?

 

[OldPanther]

Why did JT not go for the try then if it is the better option? Or in the Roosters v Storm game last week. Cronk, Munster, Smith all in that game yet the went the shots at FG

"butI'd come around later to see the value in aplaymaker with balls because both plays have the same level of risk Vs reward."

This is what I said. Now there some nuance depending on field position but neither is better really. A playmaker has to evaluate the situation and make a decision. JT had a tap 40m out after the siren. Best to go for a field goal.. Moylan had a reasonably quick play the ball 10 or so out to the side of the field when the opposition would be expecting a field goal.

It's not about which is better it's about whether a playmaker can make a decision under pressure and make it work. He did that.

 

[OldPanther]

So you'd be fine Maloney doing the same thing if we are down by one? Remembering 2 officals have been dropped for allowing the try

Or is your love of Moylan clouding your judgement?

You can't judge Moylan for another player making a poor play though. He did his job as a playmaker.

 

[franklin2323]

You can't judge Moylan for another player making a poor play though. He did his job as a playmaker.

So not one single person has commented on us only scoring 2 tries v Tigers?

 

[OldPanther]

So not one single person has commented on us only scoring 2 tries v Tigers?

I don't understand what that means in relation to my comment that you quoted?

 

[mxlegend99]

So you'd be fine Maloney doing the same thing if we are down by one? Remembering 2 officals have been dropped for allowing the try

Or is your love of Moylan clouding your judgement?

If he's unable to make the kick I would be pissed off if he or anyone was dumb enough to try it.

Moylan had already been charged down on one kick. He was forced into his decision. It happens all the f**king time. They didnt have a second player in position to take sn attempt so he played into the spsce that opened up.

The only person here clouded by bias is you. If he went for the attempt you would just be bagging him out for missing it and talking sbout how stupid he was to try it.

Also refs tend to stop doing their job in that situation. They prefer to make no decision at all. Forward passes and offsides never seem to happen in that situation. They went any chance to refer it to a video ref to shift blame.

 

[franklin2323]

I don't understand what that means in relation to my comment that you quoted?

A few people on here have used that game as reason that our halves are struggling in attack. When 3 tries got disallowed due to other players stuff ups.

 

[franklin2323]

If he's unable to make the kick I would be pissed off if he or anyone was dumb enough to try it.

Moylan had already been charged down on one kick. He was forced into his decision. It happens all the f**king time. They didnt have a second player in position to take sn attempt so he played into the spsce that opened up.

The only person here clouded by bias is you. If he went for the attempt you would just be bagging him out for missing it and talking sbout how stupid he was to try it.

Also refs tend to stop doing their job in that situation. They prefer to make no decision at all. Forward passes and offsides never seem to happen in that situation. They went any chance to refer it to a video ref to shift blame.

Not just that tackle why are working to a corner? Moylan has good knack of pulling off crazy things late in games also a fair record of not pulling them off too

 

[OldPanther]

A few people on here have used that game as reason that our halves are struggling in attack. When 3 tries got disallowed due to other players stuff ups.

I thought the general consensus was we should've won by more because of those missed chances. I honestly don't remember any specific discussion about our playmakers being poor because of that game(not saying it didn't happen)

 

[Kilkenny]

Brandy left after the death of his brother, and I can totally understand why he did.

Greg Alexander is the best player to ever play for this club. Craig Gower 2nd and Mick Stephenson 3rd.

Brad Fittler maybe have been the most gifted but he played the greater majority of his career at the Roosters he cannot be considered for our top three in my opinion.

It was so great when Brandy returned to finish his career with the Panthers because his heart and soul was always with our club.

Personally, I would never ever want Matt Moylan to return to our club because his heart and soul was never part of our club.

Matt Moylan was a very selfish individual who delivered once in maybe every half a dozen or so games and when the when we needed him the most he was no where to be seen. Good luck to him at the Sharks.

 

[franklin2323]

I thought the general consensus was we should've won by more because of those missed chances. I honestly don't remember any specific discussion about our playmakers being poor because of that game(not saying it didn't happen)

Ok Ben Hunt in Origin. If the chasers kick that is a good play. As it was when he did it v Parra. It is the problem with being a half most of your stats rely on other players doing their job

 

[mxlegend99]

A few people on here have used that game as reason that our halves are struggling in attack. When 3 tries got disallowed due to other players stuff ups.

Im recall people not being impressed by it. But but OldPanther and I were pretty happy with that win.

Outside of the wingers who still prove to be huge liabilities.

 

[OldPanther]

Ok Ben Hunt in Origin. If the chasers kick that is a good play. As it was when he did it v Parra. It is the problem with being a half most of your stats rely on other players doing their job

Hunt's kick in origin 2 was too big. No chaser was getting that. Also the forward pass was the next players mistake while Hunt kicking dead is his own but if it comes off he is the hero of QLD and everyone would be saying it was a good play.

 

[OldPanther]

Moylan is second in overall playmaking

 

[Kilkenny]

Bryce Cartwright to the Sea Eagles from next season?

I don't even think going to the Storm and reinventing his career under Craig Bellamy could save Bryce.