Former Panthers in the NRL

[betcats]

I hope not. I don't want us paying for players who aren't in our top 30.

Yeah definitely. For this year it doesn’t really matter as they have both been replaced with minimum wage players but going forward they should be off the books.

 

[roofromoz]

The said podcast...

 

[Kilkenny]

Disappointed if we are paying anything beyond this year.

I think you’ll be very disappointed then and I suspect they were being paid more than I had imagined which I find disappointing. Just my gut feelings from what was said in the podcast. It’s worth a listen on many fronts.

 

[Pomoz]

I hope not. I don't want us paying for players who aren't in our top 30.

Nor do I, but if it means we are better off in the long run, its worth it.

 

[betcats]

Nor do I, but if it means we are better off in the long run, its worth it.

Yep this is what it comes down to. Trying to make these decisions would be f**king nightmare really, I don’t envy anyone trying to balance an nrl roster and salary cap.

 

[betcats]

I think you’ll be very disappointed then and I suspect they were being paid more than I had imagined which I find disappointing. Just my gut feelings from what was said in the podcast. It’s worth a listen on many fronts.

I will have a listen for sure.

 

[Kilkenny]

I now suspect it is probable DWZ was being paid the 600K as suggested by some media pundits which I just find astonishing. I know he is NZ international and highly versatile which increases his value but I would have thought 450-500K absolute maximum would have been a realistic market value.

 

[OldPanther]

Nor do I, but if it means we are better off in the long run, its worth it.

Yeah if we are getting a net benefit can't argue.

Yep this is what it comes down to. Trying to make these decisions would be f**king nightmare really, I don’t envy anyone trying to balance an nrl roster and salary cap.

It'd be the worst, player managers definitely don't help.

I now suspect it is probable DWZ was being paid the 600K as suggested by some media pundits which I just find astonishing. I know he is NZ international and highly versatile which increases his value but I would have thought 450-500K absolute maximum would have been a realistic market value.

Someone said he was getting paid as a fullback so maybe the club were going that way until now.

 

[Kilkenny]

Someone said he was getting paid as a fullback so maybe the club were going that way until now.

Not the club. Gus, he had total power over all things football.

 

[Kilkenny]

One thing that did slip out I assume accidentally as the powers that be don’t normally discuss figures was that Brian Too was on the minimum $72,500 which applies to those outside the top 30 normally CC players and he made reference to how cost effective he was in replacing DWZ. I think they also get $3000 match payments for each NRL game. I think this comment was from Brian Fletcher but I stand corrected if I’m wrong. I’m intending to listen to it again to clarify a number of the things discussed.

 

[OldPanther]

Not the club. Gus, he had total power over all things football.

Well the terms were interchangeable since the club gave him the mandate.

Some on this forum have said DWZ went well at fullback when Ivan was here until a lung issue happened so maybe he has just struggled to get the spark back. Either way I'm happy to hear we have some good prospects coming through and I am a Dylan Edwards fan although he needs to learn to pass haha.

 

[betcats]

One thing that did slip out I assume accidentally as the powers that be don’t normally discuss figures was that Brian Too was on the minimum $72,500 which applies to those outside the top 30 normally CC players and he made reference to how cost effective he was in replacing DWZ. I think they also get $3000 match payments for each NRL game. I think this comment was from Brian Fletcher but I stand corrected if I’m wrong. I’m intending to listen to it again to clarify a number of the things discussed.

Naden is on the same deal according an article on nrl.com recently. That’s 145k plus the match payments. The conservative estimates for for Dallin and Waqas combined contract value is the 700k-800k range imo, some reports have Dallin alone getting that much so it could closer to 1million for the two of them. It’s a big saving either way.

 

[Kilkenny]

Well the terms were interchangeable since the club gave him the mandate.

Some on this forum have said DWZ went well at fullback when Ivan was here until a lung issue happened so maybe he has just struggled to get the spark back. Either way I'm happy to hear we have some good prospects coming through and I am a Dylan Edwards fan although he needs to learn to pass haha.

I know I was just being a bit of a smart ass with the Gus thing.

Dylan Edwards fan, you do have a thing for fullbacks Old Panther. Does your missus know about this.

 

[OldPanther]

I know I was just being a bit of a smart ass with the Gus thing.

Dylan Edwards fan, you do have a thing for fullbacks Old Panther. Does your missus know about this.

She knows her place when it comes to Panthers haha.

I'm more worried that my daughter's favourite player is Cleary.

 

[BxTom]

One thing that did slip out I assume accidentally as the powers that be don’t normally discuss figures was that Brian Too was on the minimum $72,500 which applies to those outside the top 30 normally CC players and he made reference to how cost effective he was in replacing DWZ. I think they also get $3000 match payments for each NRL game. I think this comment was from Brian Fletcher but I stand corrected if I’m wrong. I’m intending to listen to it again to clarify a number of the things discussed.

Perhaps. It may also have been an example only too. Hard to be sure.

 

[franklin2323]

For me the length of deals is the best part. All short term so can assess better

 

[franklin2323]

From my personal perspective we have far bigger issues to worry about that what Hook said on NRL 360.

Season 2019 has been a train wreck in so many ways and I;m not sure the O’Neil, Fletcher & Cleary team have the attributes to get us heading in the right direction.

Hope I’m wrong.

To be honest. I see no different to prior years on field. There is 3 games we lost we should of won. If we won them we'd be top 8 and wouldn't of done the soul search that had too happen

 

[franklin2323]

I now suspect it is probable DWZ was being paid the 600K as suggested by some media pundits which I just find astonishing. I know he is NZ international and highly versatile which increases his value but I would have thought 450-500K absolute maximum would have been a realistic market value.

I don't think he was the only one. I have said for a few years I don't see how this roster could be on the cap

 

[Kilkenny]

To be honest. I see no different to prior years on field. There is 3 games we lost we should of won. If we won them we'd be top 8 and wouldn't of done the soul search that had too happen

By the same token we could easily have lost a couple of the close one's in our recent run of wins. We are probably placed where we deserve to be and I am not sure we are good enough to win enough games in our run home to sneak into the 8. Glad to be proven wrong though.

 

[franklin2323]

By the same token we could easily have lost a couple of the close one's in our recent run of wins. We are probably placed where we deserve to be and I am not sure we are good enough to win enough games in our run home to sneak into the 8. Glad to be proven wrong though.

I am not complaining. We needed a year like this much better early on with Ivan then dragging it out.

I am with you.
5 of the 9 games left are teams in top 8. 2 more in QLD where we struggle. I just don't see getting enough wins