Former Panthers in the NRL

[OldPanther]

I feel sorry for Garth. It was never a good match really, that place is a graveyard for coaches and players.

Gould once said Garth would have a job for life here, now that Gould is gone will the offer still stand?

Hope so. Seems like a good bloke.

 

[Big Mick]

Off your head Mick. The Winter has been good for us. Hard to make a mark when your role is 14 mins of tackling & 66 mins of motivating the bench.

He is too much of a liability defensively for mine and has a selfish streak. Twice if he passed straight away on Friday we would have scored easily...instead he kept trying to break a tackle and both plays went to crap.

He has been OK....would not say good.

I just think Burns and Sele are more talented - with one not getting a shot and the other...well...he must have ran over Clearys' dog or something.

 

[OldPanther]

He is too much of a liability defensively for mine

Not sure that's an accurate assessment of his defence since he has a near perfect efficiency.

 

[Kilkenny]

Just saw one example why Griffin didn’t rate Sivo. Tigers second try horrible read in defence by Sivo no need for him to come in and try scored.

 

[Kilkenny]

Awful defence by Robert Jennings to allow Blake Ferguson try just now. Great finish by Ferguson but seriously Robert has been a major disappointment given was touted as the best Jennings as a junior.

 

[Kilkenny]

Another awful read in defence by Robert J.

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

Just saw one example why Griffin didn’t rate Sivo. Tigers second try horrible read in defence by Sivo no need for him to come in and try scored.

Sivo\s positional play just horrible. Let in at least 2 maybe 3 tries today.

 

[franklin2323]

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Not sure that's an accurate assessment of his defence since he has a near perfect efficiency.

Like with all stats it alone doesn't tell the story but it is why he is starting and doesn't comeback. He is there to help our starts the flip side is attack is ordinary.

 

[franklin2323]

Just saw one example why Griffin didn’t rate Sivo. Tigers second try horrible read in defence by Sivo no need for him to come in and try scored.

We will see it more as more teams target him

 

[OldPanther]

Like with all stats it alone doesn't tell the story but it is why he is starting and doesn't comeback. He is there to help our starts the flip side is attack is ordinary.

Yeah that's true about stats although I haven't seen anything to be concerned about in defence. I definitely think that's what it is. Give us a defensive boost for 15 - 20 minutes while everyone is fresh.

 

[martielang]

Like with all stats it alone doesn't tell the story but it is why he is starting and doesn't comeback. He is there to help our starts the flip side is attack is ordinary.

I think he runs better lines then anyone else in our team, just seems to get very little ball. I think he could be used a lot more effectively in attack, consistently runs between shoulders & pokes his nose through.

 

[franklin2323]

I think he runs better lines then anyone else in our team, just seems to get very little ball. I think he could be used a lot more effectively in attack, consistently runs between shoulders & pokes his nose through.

Then gets through and takes to long to decide what to do

 

[franklin2323]

Yeah that's true about stats although I haven't seen anything to be concerned about in defence. I definitely think that's what it is. Give us a defensive boost for 15 - 20 minutes while everyone is fresh.

I like that defensive stat best as it means the guys are put down rather than bounce off

 

[franklin2323]

One of the tougher jobs in the NRL coaching the Titans. He will have to wait a while before he gets another shot. Assistant coach role if he can find one.

I'd take him here as attacking coach

 

[Big Mick]

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Not sure that's an accurate assessment of his defence since he has a near perfect efficiency.

Stats don't tell the whole story but does show he has been a bit more efficient than I thought he was. Still doesn't factor in tackles he doesn't attempt though that he shirks away from. I've seen it at least 5 teams this season. Kikau as well to be fair...i.e vs the Warriors in the first game.

For mine...given he is playing...what 20 min a game...I'd rather invest those minutes into guys that can potentially contribute down the line. Winterstein is not exactly our future.

I think he does run a good line though. But he gets lost in the headlights when having to make a decision....as shown on Friday.

I'm not saying he is bad. He is doing his job. I'm just saying I'd prefer other options over him.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Doubt Winterstein will be retained.

 

[OldPanther]

Stats don't tell the whole story but does show he has been a bit more efficient than I thought he was. Still doesn't factor in tackles he doesn't attempt though that he shirks away from. I've seen it at least 5 teams this season. Kikau as well to be fair...i.e vs the Warriors in the first game.

For mine...given he is playing...what 20 min a game...I'd rather invest those minutes into guys that can potentially contribute down the line. Winterstein is not exactly our future.

I think he does run a good line though. But he gets lost in the headlights when having to make a decision....as shown on Friday.

I'm not saying he is bad. He is doing his job. I'm just saying I'd prefer other options over him.

I wouldn't mind development squad player being used in with those limited minutes.

 

[snickers007]

I wouldn't mind development squad player being used in with those limited minutes.

We kind of did that last week with Jed, who only saw 17 mins of action (Winterstein played 45 straight).

For what it's worth, I don't mind Winterstein, especially in the role he is playing. Runs good lines, makes his tackles.

If we ever get our Top 17 on the field, I doubt he'll be there. But hes been extremely important to us during this winning streak.

 

[martielang]

Doubt Winterstein will be retained.

Not sure about that, might give him another 12 months. Hard pressed finding someone of his quality or experience for the minimal money (I think) he is on.

 

[betcats]

Winterstein is a quality squad player IMO.