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Lovemedragons

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From the NRL 2023 rulebook:

Picking up in in-goal 3. (a) Picking up the ball is not grounding it

He was trying to pick it up, the ref got it right I'm afraid. Terrible error by Sloan, and, while I've been one of his biggest fans and fiercest defenders, in this game I just about lost patience with him. He failed to get himself into the game in any meaningful way in attack - we needed some impact of speed and dynamism but he was just MIA. The team looked after him in defence too! They worked their arses off and spared him having to attempt try saving tackles. Then after it all, after all that defensive work, with the game in the balance and another set withstood - instead of kicking or grounding the ball to give us a shot at a short restart, he lazily attempts a casual pick-up and hands the Warriors the match. Blake Lawrie deserves a sainthood for not killing him on the spot.
Sorry no, he grounded the ball regardless of what the ref thinks was his intent. There is no intent clause in the rule book, the grounding was accidental but there was downward pressure applied by the hands on the ball on the ground. FFS tell me with a straight face that this would ever have been called against Billy Slater.

We need to make a move like the Warriors CEO did and get these f**kers off our back and stop keeping us down, Warriors have gone so well since they got the attention of the NRL by calling out the obvious crap being piled on them for years.
 

justadragon

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Sorry no, he grounded the ball regardless of what the ref thinks was his intent. There is no intent clause in the rule book, the grounding was accidental but there was downward pressure applied by the hands on the ball on the ground. FFS tell me with a straight face that this would ever have been called against Billy Slater.

We need to make a move like the Warriors CEO did and get these f**kers off our back and stop keeping us down, Warriors have gone so well since they got the attention of the NRL by calling out the obvious crap being piled on them for years.
We wouldnt be talking about this if he had just kicked it out, you know and I know he was trying to pick it up, for whatever reason only known to him. if you dont provide refs with a situation to analyse things you have nothing to worry about. It was a pure cock up and Sloan knows it.
 

Dragon David

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Sorry no, he grounded the ball regardless of what the ref thinks was his intent. There is no intent clause in the rule book, the grounding was accidental but there was downward pressure applied by the hands on the ball on the ground. FFS tell me with a straight face that this would ever have been called against Billy Slater.

We need to make a move like the Warriors CEO did and get these f**kers off our back and stop keeping us down, Warriors have gone so well since they got the attention of the NRL by calling out the obvious crap being piled on them for years.
I am in agreement with you Lovemedragons. Watching Sloan's actions even in normal speed, I could see that he pushed down onto the ball and at that time I said phew he forced the ball only to see that Fonua-Blake then ground the ball requiring a closer look by the bunker. Even on replays in slow motion the ball was forced by Sloans fingers and if that was Slater or Tedesco, it would have been a goal-line dropout for effin sake.
 

Lovemedragons

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We wouldnt be talking about this if he had just kicked it out, you know and I know he was trying to pick it up, for whatever reason only known to him. if you dont provide refs with a situation to analyse things you have nothing to worry about. It was a pure cock up and Sloan knows it.
100% agree, Sloan aint a fullback's arsehole, but my point is it would not have been called this way with others, inconsistency in applying rulings is a bitch I am sick of.
 

justadragon

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100% agree, Sloan aint a fullback's arsehole, but my point is it would not have been called this way with others, inconsistency in applying rulings is a bitch I am sick of.
At the end of the day mate, I tend to agree with you but as Dragons fans we just cant keep saying what would happen to other players, its up to us now, no one else is going to help us.
 

Dragon David

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At the end of the day mate, I tend to agree with you but as Dragons fans we just cant keep saying what would happen to other players, its up to us now, no one else is going to help us.
So very true justa. The less mistakes we make the better the outcomes and what's the use of complaining because it is up to the players to pay more attention to detail in every aspect of the way they play. Just do things bloody properly and not half heartedly.
 

BLM01

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We’ve got the spoon covered.

The hip drop is such a weak and cowardly tackle. I’d be deducting a competition point for it. Its purpose is to maim and injure, not to stop momentum.
And you have now had a glimpse of life under your new coach
After losing you best 2 players and likely a good forward in Papalii I am not sure where or how you will be better
Anyway hope I am wrong as long as you finish behind us 😉
 
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And you have now had a glimpse of life under your new coach
After losing you best 2 players and likely a good forward in Papalii I am not sure where or how you will be better
Anyway hope I am wrong as long as you finish behind us 😉
Yeah, we don’t have a proper coach. That’s so obvious.

When I’ve pointed this out a couple times on my home forum -I’ve been called the “c” word twice and been subject to other personal attacks.

Just makes my point I think.

Head Coach is Benji’s mindless vanity project.

Polishing our players after the match v roosters on the weekend was a joke.

Benji got the job on the mate, not on merit.

At least 360 agree with me, he’s not ready.
 
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Harry Bath

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Sorry no, he grounded the ball regardless of what the ref thinks was his intent. There is no intent clause in the rule book, the grounding was accidental but there was downward pressure applied by the hands on the ball on the ground. FFS tell me with a straight face that this would ever have been called against Billy Slater.

We need to make a move like the Warriors CEO did and get these f**kers off our back and stop keeping us down, Warriors have gone so well since they got the attention of the NRL by calling out the obvious crap being piled on them for years.
I bet you a million bucks that if he picked it up after putting a finger on it like he did and raced 100 meters to score they would have pulled it back and said that he had grounded it FFS
 

Dragon David

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SLOAN’S MOMENT OF MADNESS GIVES FLANAGAN AMMUNITION


Incoming coach Shane Flanagan has already made it clear the fullback jersey is up for grabs next season.

With that in mind, Tyrell Sloan’s most recent “brain explosion” hasn’t done him any favours, handing the Warriors a crucial try on Friday night.

As the score sat at 10-6, the young gun attempted to scoop up a Shaun Johnson grubber instead of batting it clear or grounding it.

Sloan fumbled the ball, which handed prop Addin Fonua-Blake a four-pointer to take the Warriors to a winning lead with only minutes left on the clock.

Speaking in the post-match press conference, interim coach Ryan Carr once again hailed his side’s effort and explained Sloan will learn from the mistake.

“It’s a learning thing, you have got to go through them to get through them,” Carr said.

“Got that one wrong obviously. I think he was just trying to pick it up and make a play when, what was it 10-6 at the time?

“Probably just got to go for a short drop out there... it’s a learning experience for him and it hurt us in the end.”

Commentator Warren Smith wasn’t as eloquent in his assessment of the mistake and Steve Roach was also stunned.

“He’s prone to having a brain explosion at times Sloan, trying to pick the ball up… that’s the biggest gift since Luke Brooks was given a BBQ,” Smith said during Fox’s coverage.

“Sloan just tried to scoop it up, I can’t understand for the life of me… just put your hand on it, ground it, the coach will be talking to him about that,” Steve Roach said.

“Four minutes remaining, now a ten-point lead… they should have had no worse than a dropout there, instead Tyrell Sloan… it’s a real area of his game (to improve), attention to detail,” Smith added.


No NRL fan can doubt Sloan’s talent and at 21, he still has a long career ahead of him.

But with Flanagan potentially giving Zac Lomax a chance to compete for the fullback spot and Cody Ramsey likely returning, he has one more game this season to show he is the club’s long-term No.1.

Interesting to read about Cody.
 

Lovemedragons

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I bet you a million bucks that if he picked it up after putting a finger on it like he did and raced 100 meters to score they would have pulled it back and said that he had grounded it FFS
Ha I never thought of that but I bet you are right, 15 replays later they would have sent it back. They were also dying to reject Lomax try in the first 15 seconds, they all instantly made up their minds Lomax had got to it first despite it being impossible to tell. If the replays showed otherwise they would have called a deliberate knock on....anything but a try.
Just like the Gutherson 'strip', the Kasey Badger 'its over the line, its on the ground, no try' calls of the past few weeks......I hate what RL is doing to me.
 

TheRev

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Will be next to impossible to prise a key component of a club on the up like the Warriors.. not unless we are also a Top-8 club. We need to set our targets a rung (or 3) down.. guys like Taafe would have been a dream.. been held out of 1st grade for a long time now.. by a player like Lattrell who is worshipped at the club...

Unfortunately the Cody situation.. the Turner signing.. the delay on signing Flanno.. it all happened too slow.. we could have made some gun signings for 2024 if we had started 3-6mths earlier.
 

Auntie.Gerald

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When I watch most of the top line FBs over the last decade or so they spend just as much time in attack searching for those extra metres in the middle vs a big sweeping play out wide.

Think of how many times you see Teddy just making sure on the 3rd or 4th he can get another 10m for his team jinking and or opening angles so his kicker has more time and easier distance to make the kick perfect.

Imagine we achieved that 50m more effortlessly and regularly so that our kicking options are putting the opposition under so much pressure.

I mean that’s what ending up happening to us on the weekend because Webster knew one of our weaknesses is our back 3 under serious pressure on the bomb. They did it well and made it so hard for us to get out and reclaim field position.

Nicoll K made such searching runs earlier in many sets that gave them good roll on and their forwards fed off that and left us vulnerable to being under extreme pressure taking the bombs
 

Draginzaaar

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Sorry no, he grounded the ball regardless of what the ref thinks was his intent. There is no intent clause in the rule book, the grounding was accidental but there was downward pressure applied by the hands on the ball on the ground. FFS tell me with a straight face that this would ever have been called against Billy Slater.

We need to make a move like the Warriors CEO did and get these f**kers off our back and stop keeping us down, Warriors have gone so well since they got the attention of the NRL by calling out the obvious crap being piled on them for years.
So if he did pick the ball up, he still would have grounded it according to what you are saying. Can't have it both ways.
 

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