The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Wb1234]

I didn’t mention Bradfield.

Sometimes the best solution isn’t to build it just to say it’s built.

You know that each stadium gets a cost benefit analysis put on it and the stadium has to pass that test don’t you. None of us have actually seen it but to get funding it has to have a certain cost benefit number which this stadium has passed

the question is how can they justify spending the money on shark park when they won’t make a return on it. That will be interesting

 

[Ozzi_78]

You know that each stadium gets a cost benefit analysis put on it and the stadium has to pass that test don’t you. None of us have actually seen it but to get funding it has to have a certain cost benefit number which this stadium has passed

the question is how can they justify spending the money on shark park when they won’t make a return on it. That will be interesting

Well hang on, they do a cost benefit analysis on that too so if sharks get money they passed the test too didnt they?

 

[Wb1234]

Well hang on, they do a cost benefit analysis on that too so if sharks get money they passed the test too didnt they?

They’ve only done them for brookvale and Penrith

I think they were trying to do one for kogarah but since they couldn’t get Cronulla to move there they pulled the pin on that

I think I read somewhere the ratio was 1.06 so they covered the cost of the stadium and made 6 percent return on top.

that’s the thing with stadiums is the government makes money on these things it’s not just a dead weight they don’t get back. And it’s an asset owned by the government not the clubs

 

[bad boy bubby]

They’ve only done them for brookvale and Penrith

I think they were trying to do one for kogarah but since they couldn’t get Cronulla to move there they pulled the pin on that

I think I read somewhere the ratio was 1.06 so they covered the cost of the stadium and made 6 percent return on top.

that’s the thing with stadiums is the government makes money on these things it’s not just a dead weight they don’t get back. And it’s an asset owned by the government not the clubs

They did do one for Kogarah as well, and you are right, because the Sharks wouldn't move there they pulled it. 6 games a year was not worth it.

 

[Iamback]

I am not against Penrith being upgraded, I’m against the amount of money being spent on it; particularly if it’s within a budget of $800 million that is meant to be divided amongst several grounds. If you are going to spend that much money on the overall kitty on one ground, then you want more than one tenant

5 years time when it opens will give a bigger picture of the extra tennants.

The population will be huge with that will come opportunties

 

[Ozzi_78]

They’ve only done them for brookvale and Penrith

I think they were trying to do one for kogarah but since they couldn’t get Cronulla to move there they pulled the pin on that

I think I read somewhere the ratio was 1.06 so they covered the cost of the stadium and made 6 percent return on top.

that’s the thing with stadiums is the government makes money on these things it’s not just a dead weight they don’t get back. And it’s an asset owned by the government not the clubs

Of course but the leaks in which stadiums are getting grants can’t be too far off the money.

I’m stunned Leichhardt are in the running, only because it already has very low tennancy from an nrl perspective and there has to be so much done to it in a very tight location.

As for shark park, this is a quid pro quo scenario no doubt about it.

 

[Wb1234]

Of course but the leaks in which stadiums are getting grants can’t be too far off the money.

I’m stunned Leichhardt are in the running, only because it already has very low tennancy from an nrl perspective and there has to be so much done to it in a very tight location.

As for shark park, this is a quid pro quo scenario no doubt about it.

2 billion dollars is a drop in the ocean for the state governments budget. Before commbank our stadia were behind every other states.

the government has upgraded its own assets which will earn them income. Plus there’s the construction jobs created and of course not losing the grand final.

I wish they could get a bit more and do more commbank type grounds for the dogs (belmore) and the tigers (Campbelltown)

and yeh I wouldn’t give lo anything either

 

[Perth Red]

You know that each stadium gets a cost benefit analysis put on it and the stadium has to pass that test don’t you. None of us have actually seen it but to get funding it has to have a certain cost benefit number which this stadium has passed

the question is how can they justify spending the money on shark park when they won’t make a return on it. That will be interesting

Or it just has to be in the sports Ministers electorate lol

 

[Perth Red]

Ideally we should all like to see NRL in Sydney come out of this in a much better position and set for the next 30-40 years in terms of stadiums. Having moved away from a centralised model the only option left is to try and get as many home grounds up to date as possible.
I don't agree with LO and think a shared new stadium for Dogs and Tigers would make much more sense and set them both up for the future. lipstick on LO and nowhere for dogs to go leaves them both in exactly the same situation they are in now.
Shark park and Brookvale hopefully get enough to make a big difference otherwise once again it leaves them behind for many many years to come.
Id like to have seen regions get some love as well and Newcastle get end stands and Win a new sideline stand.
If they'd gone that way with the strategy every club would have been playing out of new or much improved stadiums and be set for decades to come. Its a shame NRL couldn't have convinced the govt of this strategy.

 

[MugaB]

Ideally we should all like to see NRL in Sydney come out of this in a much better position and set for the next 30-40 years in terms of stadiums. Having moved away from a centralised model the only option left is to try and get as many home grounds up to date as possible.
I don't agree with LO and think a shared new stadium for Dogs and Tigers would make much more sense and set them both up for the future. lipstick on LO and nowhere for dogs to go leaves them both in exactly the same situation they are in now.
Shark park and Brookvale hopefully get enough to make a big difference otherwise once again it leaves them behind for many many years to come.
Id like to have seen regions get some love as well and Newcastle get end stands and Win a new sideline stand.
If they'd gone that way with the strategy every club would have been playing out of new or much improved stadiums and be set for decades to come. Its a shame NRL couldn't have convinced the govt of this strategy.

Not too sure, but isn't Liechardt used for more than just NRL, theres heaps of lower grade games, NRLW, Womens state of origin, A-league, Union games, past 2 years ive seen it get a bit of traffic/events held at LO, although the crowds weren't big, but it had been used a fair bit, it might have past some test, and gotten the tick of approval to get a bit of work done, i know the stadium pretty well, its not bad, and is awesome when its packed, its just the facilities are old, upgrade that and its fine... the only other issue is parking around LO, if the govt could get just one block of land around there, and build a parking lot they'd be ranking it in, balmains a pretty nice area, just no where to park is all

 

[Suitman]

Not too sure, but isn't Liechardt used for more than just NRL, theres heaps of lower grade games, NRLW, Womens state of origin, A-league, Union games, past 2 years ive seen it get a bit of traffic/events held at LO, although the crowds weren't big, but it had been used a fair bit, it might have past some test, and gotten the tick of approval to get a bit of work done, i know the stadium pretty well, its not bad, and is awesome when its packed, its just the facilities are old, upgrade that and its fine... the only other issue is parking around LO, if the govt could get just one block of land around there, and build a parking lot they'd be ranking it in, balmains a pretty nice area, just no where to park is all

LO won't get any more Waratah and A-League games once Allianz opens.

 

[mongoose]

Ideally we should all like to see NRL in Sydney come out of this in a much better position and set for the next 30-40 years in terms of stadiums. Having moved away from a centralised model the only option left is to try and get as many home grounds up to date as possible.
I don't agree with LO and think a shared new stadium for Dogs and Tigers would make much more sense and set them both up for the future. lipstick on LO and nowhere for dogs to go leaves them both in exactly the same situation they are in now.
Shark park and Brookvale hopefully get enough to make a big difference otherwise once again it leaves them behind for many many years to come.
Id like to have seen regions get some love as well and Newcastle get end stands and Win a new sideline stand.
If they'd gone that way with the strategy every club would have been playing out of new or much improved stadiums and be set for decades to come. Its a shame NRL couldn't have convinced the govt of this strategy.

Dogs need to pick out of Bankwest or Allianz i think, anything but Homebush.

Tigers should work work Mcarthur A League team to get Campbelltown upgraded.

 

[Perth Red]

Dogs need to pick out of Bankwest or Allianz i think, anything but Homebush.

Tigers should work work Mcarthur A League team to get Campbelltown upgraded.

If a suitable location could have been found, and the clubs agreed, a joint ownership stadium between NRL and govt for a new stadium for the three clubs would have been a much better outcome and benefitted the NRL as well. That would have given Sydney 4 new rectangular stadiums which is a great outcome.
As it is we are left with Dogs still not having a home, Tigers still nomadic and playing in 2/3 sht grounds and the Aleague team not benefitting either. Its looking like a poor outcome compared to what Eels, Panthers, Roosters and hopefully Souths have achieved from the stadium strategy.

 

[Coastbloke]

FWIW spending anything on Leichhardt is pure idiocy and pure rugby league. Promoted by the same people who think holding a Test match (even if they are ultra minnows) at Leichhardt is a good idea.

 

[Frailty]

I'm fine with maintaining Leichhardt Oval as a heritage sporting venue, but it shouldn't be renovated or have new stands, etc.

 

[grozzy]

I'm fine with maintaining Leichhardt Oval as a heritage sporting venue, but it shouldn't be renovated or have new stands, etc.

Looking at the 1940s aerial photos onlythe southern grandstand could be considered heritage. With just a little refurbishment LO is still great for NSWRL games.
IMO the Tigers need to find ONE modern stadium as home.

 

[Ozzi_78]

Looking at the 1940s aerial photos onlythe southern grandstand could be considered heritage. With just a little refurbishment LO is still great for NSWRL games.
IMO the Tigers need to find ONE modern stadium as home.

Yep commbank.

 

[Jamberoo]

Spare a thought for the Tasmanian government, who have promised a $750m stadium in Hobart and a $200m upgrade at Launceston if they get an AFL team. Cricket would stay at Bellerive so Hobart might get used 7 - 9 times a year and Launceston 4 - 6. That is far crazier than anything that has been proposed for Sydney.

 

[Ozzi_78]

What the hell does 750 million get you?

 

[Colk]

What the hell does 750 million get you?

Mightn’t even be a sporting team