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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

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Yeah but governments aren’t going to fork out money for one tenant. There has never been a government that has forked out refurbishments or new stadiums for five or six seperate teams. It isn’t going to happen. You have to sell multiple tenants to them in order for it to be seen as a proper ROI.
GWS had no problems getting stadium money from the NSW Government
 

Iamback

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nonsense, there are only a few places in the world rugby league or union are the #1 sport, and thats Sydney and Brisbane for league and NZ for Union. Everywhere else they are in second, third or fourth tier compared to other sports comps in their cities.

Yep and all of those places have other sports to deal with also.

Your expectations are based on pure fantasy and just a reason to complain
 

King-Gutho94

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GWS had no problems getting stadium money from the NSW Government
Cricket is also played there at the showgrounds and also that stadium is used for the Sydney Royal Easter show every year which i assume brings economy to the state so an upgrade wasn't just based on the AFL.

Even though it was the major tenant.
 

Perth Red

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Yep and all of those places have other sports to deal with also.

Your expectations are based on pure fantasy and just a reason to complain
haha, ok show me a sports team in the main comp in a major city in the developed world that draws less than 15k. Like literally every club is drawing more, but its unrealistic to expect NRL clubs in Sydney to achieve more? I think you are the one who keeps finding excuses for the games below par performance when it comes to attracting fans to games.
 

Colk

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I think a good compromise could be localised modern stadiums that can be shared. Simply moving everyone to two grounds like in the AFL isn't the RL solution

I suggested four-five stadiums in that post. To be fair, 5 teams in Sydney are and can easily share stadiums (six if you want to add Manly and they are only 20kms from SFS). Even then another two (Dragons and Sharks) could play some of their games at SFS if push came to shove.

People on here can come on this forum and say all means of things about this can’t or won’t work but rugby league teams in Sydney mightn’t have much of a choice otherwise.
 

Wb1234

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South Sydney – the Pride of the League – has been left stranded embarrassingly without a home ground for 2023 because the NSW Government refuses to make what the club claims is a “simple” decision.

It has triggered an increasing drama between an under-pressure Government and rugby league’s most famous club.

“We are extremely confused, frustrated and disappointed - we have bucket loads of uncertainty,” said angry Souths chief executive, Blake Solly.

The Rabbitohs have formally announced a decision to quit Accor Stadium at Sydney Olympic Park after 16 years for a historic return to the rebuilt Allianz Stadium, located in the club’s geographic heartland.

But the club’s hunger for a return to Moore Park and its $830m venue is being thwarted by the NSW Government, who is refusing to approve the move.

Souths are predicting an ugly financial black hole if the club cannot start selling tickets, memberships, sponsorship and corporate hospitality for home games in 2023.

Solly fears his club has been caught in the middle of a public dispute between the State Government and NRL over stadium funding.

Souths have told the Government, Venues NSW and NRL that the club wants to return to its traditional eastern suburbs heartland – but the relocation is being denied.

Solly is becoming increasingly exasperated given that, at this point, the club cannot tell fans where the team will play next season. If the shift back east is denied, Souths have several options but would likely be forced back to Accor Stadium.

“We are pleading for a fair go. We just want to be treated fairly,” said Solly. “The club has told the Government, NRL and Venues NSW we now want to play at Allianz. We’re struggling to understand why it’s so hard. Why this isn’t a quick decision? This needs to be approved as soon as possible.

“The Government has spent $800m improving Allianz Stadium so surely they want as many games, with as many people, using the venue to make a return on the taxpayer investment – to utilise it at full capacity.

“We have memberships going on sale in four weeks’ time and we still don’t know where we’re playing next season. We also have sponsorship, tickets and hospitality to sell - everything that comes with a home stadium.

“We need to go on sale with these options. This will cost us financial and commercial opportunities.

“Given there is no investment in Accor Stadium, we want the best experience for our members, fans and corporate partners so we can’t see why the Government won’t approve or allow our move to Moore Park to go ahead. They haven’t said yes or no and that’s the problem.”

Solly claims the Government’s decision to renege on a further $250m investment in Brookvale Oval, Shark Park and Leichhardt Oval, causing much anger from within the NRL, could be behind the Government’s reluctance to agree on the move.

“It is an issue that has to be resolved between us, NRL and NSW Government,” Solly said. “It feels like we are a casualty of the dispute between the NRL and NSW Government on the (stadium funding) MOU.

“We understand one of the things being negotiated between the NRL and NSW Government was our move to Moore Park. It was part of the deal to keep the grand final in Sydney (until 2042) along with other stadium funding discussions.

“Ours is arguably the most simple part of the whole discussion, moving from one NSW Government-owned venue that they do not want to invest in, to another that they have spent $800m on.”

NSW Sports Minister, Alister Henskens, claimed Souths only last year agreed to remain at Accor long-term.

“South Sydney have been an anchor home team at Accor Stadium since 2006 and in November 2021 reaffirmed that commitment until the end of the 2030 NRL season,” he said.

“I have discussed this matter with Mr (Peter) V’landys (ARLC chairman) and Mr (Andrew) Abdo (NRL CEO) this week and I look forward to further constructive conversations with them on this matter.”

Solly fired back, saying: “We signed a long-term agreement to play at Accor Stadium based upon an MOU between the NSW Government and the NRL that guaranteed significant investment in Accor Stadium. We have had a great partnership with (Stadium CEO) Daryl Kerry and his team at Accor – they are outstanding partners and people.

“But the Government last week confirmed that they do not want to invest in Accor Stadium – we understand that with the challenges they face it is not their priority.

“We get it and have been supportive of the NRL and Government on this issue. But it doesn’t look like our support is being reciprocated.”


Souths have maintained for the past Two-and-a-half years that the club should be permitted to move if the Government withdrew its funding for Accor Stadium. Once that was confirmed last week, Souths were on the move.
 

Perth Red

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Eels, Dogs, Tigers - Commbank
Roosters, Souths, PT Dragons - SFS
Penrith - new stadium

only leaves manly and sharks to sort out.
 

Colk

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GWS had no problems getting stadium money from the NSW Government

Aren’t they based at the Showgrounds. They have other tenants I’m sure.

Even in that case, we are not talking about several stadiums with only one tenant. Look at Melbourne, even fumbleball which is a religion down there didn’t get the Victorian state government to fund suburban grounds. Banking on the government to continually fund upgrades to several stadiums is probably not a sound long term strategy
 

Perth Red

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South Sydney – the Pride of the League – has been left stranded embarrassingly without a home ground for 2023 because the NSW Government refuses to make what the club claims is a “simple” decision.

It has triggered an increasing drama between an under-pressure Government and rugby league’s most famous club.

“We are extremely confused, frustrated and disappointed - we have bucket loads of uncertainty,” said angry Souths chief executive, Blake Solly.

The Rabbitohs have formally announced a decision to quit Accor Stadium at Sydney Olympic Park after 16 years for a historic return to the rebuilt Allianz Stadium, located in the club’s geographic heartland.

But the club’s hunger for a return to Moore Park and its $830m venue is being thwarted by the NSW Government, who is refusing to approve the move.

Souths are predicting an ugly financial black hole if the club cannot start selling tickets, memberships, sponsorship and corporate hospitality for home games in 2023.

Solly fears his club has been caught in the middle of a public dispute between the State Government and NRL over stadium funding.

Souths have told the Government, Venues NSW and NRL that the club wants to return to its traditional eastern suburbs heartland – but the relocation is being denied.

Solly is becoming increasingly exasperated given that, at this point, the club cannot tell fans where the team will play next season. If the shift back east is denied, Souths have several options but would likely be forced back to Accor Stadium.

“We are pleading for a fair go. We just want to be treated fairly,” said Solly. “The club has told the Government, NRL and Venues NSW we now want to play at Allianz. We’re struggling to understand why it’s so hard. Why this isn’t a quick decision? This needs to be approved as soon as possible.

“The Government has spent $800m improving Allianz Stadium so surely they want as many games, with as many people, using the venue to make a return on the taxpayer investment – to utilise it at full capacity.

“We have memberships going on sale in four weeks’ time and we still don’t know where we’re playing next season. We also have sponsorship, tickets and hospitality to sell - everything that comes with a home stadium.

“We need to go on sale with these options. This will cost us financial and commercial opportunities.

“Given there is no investment in Accor Stadium, we want the best experience for our members, fans and corporate partners so we can’t see why the Government won’t approve or allow our move to Moore Park to go ahead. They haven’t said yes or no and that’s the problem.”

Solly claims the Government’s decision to renege on a further $250m investment in Brookvale Oval, Shark Park and Leichhardt Oval, causing much anger from within the NRL, could be behind the Government’s reluctance to agree on the move.

“It is an issue that has to be resolved between us, NRL and NSW Government,” Solly said. “It feels like we are a casualty of the dispute between the NRL and NSW Government on the (stadium funding) MOU.

“We understand one of the things being negotiated between the NRL and NSW Government was our move to Moore Park. It was part of the deal to keep the grand final in Sydney (until 2042) along with other stadium funding discussions.

“Ours is arguably the most simple part of the whole discussion, moving from one NSW Government-owned venue that they do not want to invest in, to another that they have spent $800m on.”

NSW Sports Minister, Alister Henskens, claimed Souths only last year agreed to remain at Accor long-term.

“South Sydney have been an anchor home team at Accor Stadium since 2006 and in November 2021 reaffirmed that commitment until the end of the 2030 NRL season,” he said.

“I have discussed this matter with Mr (Peter) V’landys (ARLC chairman) and Mr (Andrew) Abdo (NRL CEO) this week and I look forward to further constructive conversations with them on this matter.”

Solly fired back, saying: “We signed a long-term agreement to play at Accor Stadium based upon an MOU between the NSW Government and the NRL that guaranteed significant investment in Accor Stadium. We have had a great partnership with (Stadium CEO) Daryl Kerry and his team at Accor – they are outstanding partners and people.

“But the Government last week confirmed that they do not want to invest in Accor Stadium – we understand that with the challenges they face it is not their priority.

“We get it and have been supportive of the NRL and Government on this issue. But it doesn’t look like our support is being reciprocated.”


Souths have maintained for the past Two-and-a-half years that the club should be permitted to move if the Government withdrew its funding for Accor Stadium. Once that was confirmed last week, Souths were on the move.
Govt now stressing that Accor becomes a massive white elephant.
If Tigers and Dogs stop using it for commbank, and souths leave for SFS then it sits there empty most of the year. Maybe AFL can use it lol.
 

Colk

Bench
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South Sydney – the Pride of the League – has been left stranded embarrassingly without a home ground for 2023 because the NSW Government refuses to make what the club claims is a “simple” decision.

It has triggered an increasing drama between an under-pressure Government and rugby league’s most famous club.

“We are extremely confused, frustrated and disappointed - we have bucket loads of uncertainty,” said angry Souths chief executive, Blake Solly.

The Rabbitohs have formally announced a decision to quit Accor Stadium at Sydney Olympic Park after 16 years for a historic return to the rebuilt Allianz Stadium, located in the club’s geographic heartland.

But the club’s hunger for a return to Moore Park and its $830m venue is being thwarted by the NSW Government, who is refusing to approve the move.

Souths are predicting an ugly financial black hole if the club cannot start selling tickets, memberships, sponsorship and corporate hospitality for home games in 2023.

Solly fears his club has been caught in the middle of a public dispute between the State Government and NRL over stadium funding.

Souths have told the Government, Venues NSW and NRL that the club wants to return to its traditional eastern suburbs heartland – but the relocation is being denied.

Solly is becoming increasingly exasperated given that, at this point, the club cannot tell fans where the team will play next season. If the shift back east is denied, Souths have several options but would likely be forced back to Accor Stadium.

“We are pleading for a fair go. We just want to be treated fairly,” said Solly. “The club has told the Government, NRL and Venues NSW we now want to play at Allianz. We’re struggling to understand why it’s so hard. Why this isn’t a quick decision? This needs to be approved as soon as possible.

“The Government has spent $800m improving Allianz Stadium so surely they want as many games, with as many people, using the venue to make a return on the taxpayer investment – to utilise it at full capacity.

“We have memberships going on sale in four weeks’ time and we still don’t know where we’re playing next season. We also have sponsorship, tickets and hospitality to sell - everything that comes with a home stadium.

“We need to go on sale with these options. This will cost us financial and commercial opportunities.

“Given there is no investment in Accor Stadium, we want the best experience for our members, fans and corporate partners so we can’t see why the Government won’t approve or allow our move to Moore Park to go ahead. They haven’t said yes or no and that’s the problem.”

Solly claims the Government’s decision to renege on a further $250m investment in Brookvale Oval, Shark Park and Leichhardt Oval, causing much anger from within the NRL, could be behind the Government’s reluctance to agree on the move.

“It is an issue that has to be resolved between us, NRL and NSW Government,” Solly said. “It feels like we are a casualty of the dispute between the NRL and NSW Government on the (stadium funding) MOU.

“We understand one of the things being negotiated between the NRL and NSW Government was our move to Moore Park. It was part of the deal to keep the grand final in Sydney (until 2042) along with other stadium funding discussions.

“Ours is arguably the most simple part of the whole discussion, moving from one NSW Government-owned venue that they do not want to invest in, to another that they have spent $800m on.”

NSW Sports Minister, Alister Henskens, claimed Souths only last year agreed to remain at Accor long-term.

“South Sydney have been an anchor home team at Accor Stadium since 2006 and in November 2021 reaffirmed that commitment until the end of the 2030 NRL season,” he said.

“I have discussed this matter with Mr (Peter) V’landys (ARLC chairman) and Mr (Andrew) Abdo (NRL CEO) this week and I look forward to further constructive conversations with them on this matter.”

Solly fired back, saying: “We signed a long-term agreement to play at Accor Stadium based upon an MOU between the NSW Government and the NRL that guaranteed significant investment in Accor Stadium. We have had a great partnership with (Stadium CEO) Daryl Kerry and his team at Accor – they are outstanding partners and people.

“But the Government last week confirmed that they do not want to invest in Accor Stadium – we understand that with the challenges they face it is not their priority.

“We get it and have been supportive of the NRL and Government on this issue. But it doesn’t look like our support is being reciprocated.”


Souths have maintained for the past Two-and-a-half years that the club should be permitted to move if the Government withdrew its funding for Accor Stadium. Once that was confirmed last week, Souths were on the move.

That is ridiculous.
 

Colk

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Govt now stressing that Accor becomes a massive white elephant.
If Tigers and Dogs stop using it for commbank, and souths leave for SFS then it sits there empty most of the year. Maybe AFL can use it lol.

Don’t give them ideas. They probably would be able to secure the funding for a reconfiguration
 

Perth Red

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After they got tens of millions doing Blacktown but the players hated the area

oh and they got a centre of excellence too which the nsw govt chipped in for
They still use it for reserve grade and ALFW and aslo NSW cricket centre. Good example though as its out of the way and would never be suitable as a main stadium venue, bit like the suburban NRL grounds we are talking about!
 

Perth Red

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Afl gets billions for new stadia nobody bats an eyelid

but if it happens to league its literally why won’t anyone think of the children.
Must be a NSW thing. Other cities dont have such angst. In fact people in other cities are proud of the sports arenas built for their benefit. Weird mob in Sydney.
 

taste2taste

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Let's check in and see what Australia's biggest narcissist thinks ? Does he really use the argument " oh won't somebody think of the children" ?

Life must be so hard sitting in his mosman mansion telling the rest of us what to think and bullying and threatening legal action against anyone who thinks differently ( yes, I'm referring to his treatment of senator Price )
 

siv

First Grade
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RL does need more events that is the one area the game can improve crowds on, Not this warped view that every single game will draw 20k. simply not viable but get 2 or 3 games of 30k, which allows for games in regional venues or suburban lesser drawing games
How do you develop events when the NRL schedule events like a grand final replay on Thu night
 

siv

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Govt now stressing that Accor becomes a massive white elephant.
If Tigers and Dogs stop using it for commbank, and souths leave for SFS then it sits there empty most of the year. Maybe AFL can use it lol.
Government now not going to let those tennants leave Homebush
 

Colk

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Let's check in and see what Australia's biggest narcissist thinks ? Does he really use the argument " oh won't somebody think of the children" ?

Life must be so hard sitting in his mosman mansion telling the rest of us what to think and bullying and threatening legal action against anyone who thinks differently ( yes, I'm referring to his treatment of senator Price )

I’m sure he would feel the same way if the benefactor was RU. A big problem with media now (from both sides of the political spectrum) are these opinion writers who are essentially cheerleaders without a sense of irony or conflict and treating societal and political issues like a sporting match.
 

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