The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Colk]

No because there is no transport link, road, rail or ferry

Manly to Homebush is much easier than SFS2 when Easter Show buses are running, as they are direct

SFS today is bus - ferry - tram or bus(to Wynyard) - tram. Its a fundamental peninsula problem

So people don’t have cars?

Also, are you suggesting that the only people following the Sea Eagles are from Manly?

 

[Colk]

Nothing wrong with manly or cronulla...
Roosters tho....
Manly are in an area that has potential for growth if they can seize it, and even sprawl up to gosford if they are willing to embrace it,
Cronulla are so far south of sydney in a sort of similar territory and have stripped the area that once was stgeorges to the point they've become the 2nd biggest nursery in the sydney region apart from Penrith/centralwest tablelands, its exactly what people want manly or roosters to do with northern sydney. And theyve done it, with Dragons being present, unlike seaeagles/roosters with no 1st grade bears being around, keeping these areas strong in juniors and participation borders sydney, the rest of inner city teams within that bubble/border from imploding, what are roosters parra or dogs without these teams feeding them really?
Souths are the outliner for me they are tge only inner xity team doing any real development, and even tigers if they get their shit together at 1st grade level, but below that thet are strong, and so is dragons and are Wollongong now and into the future.


You want to talk about moving sides or culling them, think about the clubs that are just pilfering before creating or investing in any development, barr their own 1st grade intentions, or existence
Personally i'd move the roosters out of sydney as they are a purposeful club, but running on the bones of other clubs.. they might swell be Melbourne 2.0, if s o do that in Adelaide or somewhere else... and parra buys penrith and cronulla rejects, and dogs just buy, buy, buy anyone(they might change now that gus has taken control) but in the end we talk about too many sydney based clubs but only p8ck on the fringe clibs that are more strategic instead of the ones that only offer their own existence, rather than them clubs taking the initiative to foster more local juniors towards 1st grade in their areas ti benifit the whole league ...
Manly and Cronulla are essential as is Penrith..
The others not so much... depending on what they can bring to the table/ or what areas that they are represented or are ,mresponsible for

I personally have nothing against Cronulla or Manly but they have challenges that are easy to pinpoint.

The biggest problem that they have is of their own doing. The insular peninsula might be a good marketing tool to generate an us vs them mentality but it locks them out strategically. How are they going to grow where they are based and with that mindset. It’s just an inherent law of capitalism, you have to keep trying to grow otherwise you get swallowed up

The second one is stadiums. I think the game will eventually have to be faced with the reality, despite protestations from fans and an inept chairman, of a more centralised stadia model. So where does that leave clubs like Manly and Cronulla? You have Leichhardt Oval being pushed out and there was apparently a report about Shark Park being two years away from being decommissioned for use in the NRL. They are going to either accept that fate and look for corporates/supporters in the city or attempt to obtain a lot of private funding to make their stadiums good enough for the NRL.

Unfortunately for you and I, the Roosters have the wealthiest supporters in Sydney and probably one of the better facilities to play at now. I can’t see a situation where they are moving

 

[Valheru]

Nothing wrong with manly or cronulla...
Roosters tho....
Manly are in an area that has potential for growth if they can seize it, and even sprawl up to gosford if they are willing to embrace it,
Cronulla are so far south of sydney in a sort of similar territory and have stripped the area that once was stgeorges to the point they've become the 2nd biggest nursery in the sydney region apart from Penrith/centralwest tablelands, its exactly what people want manly or roosters to do with northern sydney. And theyve done it, with Dragons being present, unlike seaeagles/roosters with no 1st grade bears being around, keeping these areas strong in juniors and participation borders sydney, the rest of inner city teams within that bubble/border from imploding, what are roosters parra or dogs without these teams feeding them really?
Souths are the outliner for me they are tge only inner xity team doing any real development, and even tigers if they get their shit together at 1st grade level, but below that thet are strong, and so is dragons and are Wollongong now and into the future.


You want to talk about moving sides or culling them, think about the clubs that are just pilfering before creating or investing in any development, barr their own 1st grade intentions, or existence
Personally i'd move the roosters out of sydney as they are a purposeful club, but running on the bones of other clubs.. they might swell be Melbourne 2.0, if s o do that in Adelaide or somewhere else... and parra buys penrith and cronulla rejects, and dogs just buy, buy, buy anyone(they might change now that gus has taken control) but in the end we talk about too many sydney based clubs but only p8ck on the fringe clibs that are more strategic instead of the ones that only offer their own existence, rather than them clubs taking the initiative to foster more local juniors towards 1st grade in their areas ti benifit the whole league ...
Manly and Cronulla are essential as is Penrith..
The others not so much... depending on what they can bring to the table/ or what areas that they are represented or are ,mresponsible for

So much wrong in one post.

Roosters aren't moving anywhere mate, sorry to disappoint.

 

[T-Boon]

yeah the roosters have been a big failure but that is largely on the entire code making life difficult for people who are affluent having any involvement.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Nothing wrong with manly or cronulla...
Roosters tho....
Manly are in an area that has potential for growth if they can seize it, and even sprawl up to gosford if they are willing to embrace it,
Cronulla are so far south of sydney in a sort of similar territory and have stripped the area that once was stgeorges to the point they've become the 2nd biggest nursery in the sydney region apart from Penrith/centralwest tablelands, its exactly what people want manly or roosters to do with northern sydney. And theyve done it, with Dragons being present, unlike seaeagles/roosters with no 1st grade bears being around, keeping these areas strong in juniors and participation borders sydney, the rest of inner city teams within that bubble/border from imploding, what are roosters parra or dogs without these teams feeding them really?
Souths are the outliner for me they are tge only inner xity team doing any real development, and even tigers if they get their shit together at 1st grade level, but below that thet are strong, and so is dragons and are Wollongong now and into the future.


You want to talk about moving sides or culling them, think about the clubs that are just pilfering before creating or investing in any development, barr their own 1st grade intentions, or existence
Personally i'd move the roosters out of sydney as they are a purposeful club, but running on the bones of other clubs.. they might swell be Melbourne 2.0, if s o do that in Adelaide or somewhere else... and parra buys penrith and cronulla rejects, and dogs just buy, buy, buy anyone(they might change now that gus has taken control) but in the end we talk about too many sydney based clubs but only p8ck on the fringe clibs that are more strategic instead of the ones that only offer their own existence, rather than them clubs taking the initiative to foster more local juniors towards 1st grade in their areas ti benifit the whole league ...
Manly and Cronulla are essential as is Penrith..
The others not so much... depending on what they can bring to the table/ or what areas that they are represented or are ,mresponsible for

The Swans would love the Roosters to leave but we’re maintaining the good fight against the other codes and have a good relationship with the Central Coast as well as the Bears will ensure we remain at Moore Park for a very long time.

A lot of effort put into a lengthy, inaccurate post. So much time, yet so little knowledge.

 

[Perth Red]

So much wrong in one post.

Roosters aren't moving anywhere mate, sorry to disappoint.

The Swans would love the Roosters to leave but we’re maintaining the good fight against the other codes and have a good relationship with the Central Coast as well as the Bears will ensure we remain at Moore Park for a very long time.

A lot of effort put into a lengthy, inaccurate post. So much time, yet so little knowledge.

Roosters are def an asset. Just need to take over the north Sydney region and grow your fanbase and jnrs there and all boxes are ticked for roosters. The nrl ceasing to lead the bears on that one day they will be back would help with that. at least Roosters have potential for growth, some clubs seem so hemmed in that they really arent going anywhere fast.

 

[siv]

Roosters are waste of a tiny space

Better that the Bears return to cover Northern Sydney & the Central Coast

Then the Roosters can relocate to Port Adelaide

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Roosters are waste of a tiny space

Better that the Bears return to cover Northern Sydney & the Central Coast

Then the Roosters can relocate to Port Adelaide

Good idea but maybe after our 25 year lease at Allianz expires. Unlike Souths, we honour our contracts

 

[MugaB]

The Swans would love the Roosters to leave but we’re maintaining the good fight against the other codes and have a good relationship with the Central Coast as well as the Bears will ensure we remain at Moore Park for a very long time.

A lot of effort put into a lengthy, inaccurate post. So much time, yet so little knowledge.

Not inaccurate, just reality, nothing wrong with the roosters other than you offer nothing to the NRL, where you are placed, if you were geographically placed where manly is, and had brookie as your ground, you'd probably be a powerhouse and would have taken over all of northern sydney and northen beaches, gosford, basically anything north of the harbour... but you're stuck in bondi hiding behind the SFS, with no growth and no local league to nurture, just pilfering off others, and other areas that would strengthen other teams nearby like gosford=knights/manly.. like i said do that in Adelaide or Perth or Be Melbourne 2.0, the league would love a strong rival for the storm in the 5 million population of Melbourne.

 

[2012....Sharks Year]

Perth can stand alone, it’s Adelaide that would benefit from a relocation

Yep Perth are certainly standing alone at the moment.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

No because there is no transport link, road, rail or ferry

Manly to Homebush is much easier than SFS2 when Easter Show buses are running, as they are direct

SFS today is bus - ferry - tram or bus(to Wynyard) - tram. Its a fundamental peninsula problem

If the peninsula is that isolated then they shouldn't be in the competition. No point wasting money on redeveloping Brookvale if no one outside of the peninsula can access it.

 

[siv]

So people don’t have cars?

Also, are you suggesting that the only people following the Sea Eagles are from Manly?

Not if you need a Plan B

After a beers at the game

 

[Colk]

Not if you need a Plan B

After a beers at the game

Sure, but again, this is all based on the assumption (or presumption if you have any evidence) that all of, or the majority of Sea Eagles fans are based in Manly. If that’s the case then that’s the failing of the club and they need to be pushed to grow their base. If it’s not then it is a way to expand their corporate base

 

[Valheru]

Not inaccurate, just reality, nothing wrong with the roosters other than you offer nothing to the NRL, where you are placed, if you were geographically placed where manly is, and had brookie as your ground, you'd probably be a powerhouse and would have taken over all of northern sydney and northen beaches, gosford, basically anything north of the harbour... but you're stuck in bondi hiding behind the SFS, with no growth and no local league to nurture, just pilfering off others, and other areas that would strengthen other teams nearby like gosford=knights/manly.. like i said do that in Adelaide or Perth or Be Melbourne 2.0, the league would love a strong rival for the storm in the 5 million population of Melbourne.

Nah

We will just stay where we are and continue to be one of the most successful clubs.

 

[Valheru]

Roosters are def an asset. Just need to take over the north Sydney region and grow your fanbase and jnrs there and all boxes are ticked for roosters. The nrl ceasing to lead the bears on that one day they will be back would help with that. at least Roosters have potential for growth, some clubs seem so hemmed in that they really arent going anywhere fast.

We have a larger fanbase than most people are willing to admit because that destroys their narrative.

 

[It's Been Done]

Roosters are waste of a tiny space

Better that the Bears return to cover Northern Sydney & the Central Coast

Then the Roosters can relocate to Port Adelaide

Well that's the dumbest thing I've read all day, Port Adelaide is exactly 100% the opposite of the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney, it makes Redfern look like Manly

 

[flippikat]

Roosters are waste of a tiny space

Better that the Bears return to cover Northern Sydney & the Central Coast

Then the Roosters can relocate to Port Adelaide

Yeah - but assuming Manly stay in the comp, they become even more of an enclave in that scenario.

 

[reanimate]

If the peninsula is that isolated then they shouldn't be in the competition. No point wasting money on redeveloping Brookvale if no one outside of the peninsula can access it.

Northern Sydney isn’t well connected to the rest of the city in general, other than the most southern areas of the North Shore, or the areas directly on the T1 line. Areas of the city that are well connected have been able to get new stadiums, e.g. Parramatta, we should be getting similar investment in the north of the city.

 

[Colk]

Northern Sydney isn’t well connected to the rest of the city in general, other than the most southern areas of the North Shore, or the areas directly on the T1 line. Areas of the city that are well connected have been able to get new stadiums, e.g. Parramatta, we should be getting similar investment in the north of the city.

Where would you put it though? I work in North Sydney (or occasionally go into the office ) but it seems like there would be a lack of space

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Northern Sydney isn’t well connected to the rest of the city in general, other than the most southern areas of the North Shore, or the areas directly on the T1 line. Areas of the city that are well connected have been able to get new stadiums, e.g. Parramatta, we should be getting similar investment in the north of the city.

A grandstand on the eastern terrace would probably suffice for now.