The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Canard]

15 minutes cities is an agenda 2030 policy. WEF look it up. Increased population is coming through migration this next 12 months is penciled in at 715K and 1.4m by 2025. These are man made policies not magical thinking manifestations.

There are suckers born all the time.

As Aldous Huxley told us all, 'you we learn to love your servitude'. You my friend are just what he and they were talking about.

Read a book ffs! I'm sick of worrying about sh*t when the rest of you are just blissfully unaware of what's coming and sooner rather then later.

Stop watch mainstream freakin news is a great start. They are telling us all the time what they are planning. You just aren't listening.

I haven't seen a cooked unit in the wild before.

 

[Perth Red]

You could certainly build a cantilevered stand that overhangs the street, given the height it’d be at you’d think that would be a non-issue.

But there really isn’t much room to work with, the red line here is approximately where the sewer line is as far as I know.

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Is there enough room to spin The footprint 90degrees or so? Or does that create problems for sun and main stand?

 

[Sunshine Coast Tiger]

Are we just basing that the stadium at Penrith will be built because Buzz says so.

I think their still be strong opposition that it isn’t built and the business case won’t stack up. I be waiting until the premier actually says he is doing it.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Is it going to be a knock down rebuild or just upgrades to existing? if a knock down it looks like there'd be more room if you spun it 90 degrees?

I assume knock down and rebuild hence the 2 year move to Bankwest, not sure how much of the existing stadium is fit for purpose anyway, it’s all pretty old/dated.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Is there enough room to spin The footprint 90degrees or so? Or does that create problems for sun and main stand?

I would assume it does, given that basically every major stadium in the country is oriented north/south with media facilities on the west side.
The biggest issue would be sun in players eyes when running east to west given the frequency of afternoon games

 

[SpaceMonkey]

I haven't seen a cooked unit in the wild before.

You haven’t visited 4C lately?!

 

[Captain Apollo]

That’s a lie. Tell him nuffin, Captain!

 

[Iamback]

I ignore Buzz but Minns did say he’d look at the business case post election victory which leads me to believe it had merit. Probably along the lines of what you just described

For me it is good they are looking at future growth, Right now it isn't needed in 5-10 years 1000% is

 

[Iamback]

Are we just basing that the stadium at Penrith will be built because Buzz says so.

I think their still be strong opposition that it isn’t built and the business case won’t stack up. I be waiting until the premier actually says he is doing it

Buzz is close with PVL. I dare say he got the tip due to GF hosting discussions

 

[Canard]

You could certainly build a cantilevered stand that overhangs the street, given the height it’d be at you’d think that would be a non-issue.

But there really isn’t much room to work with, the red line here is approximately where the sewer line is as far as I know.

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This is from Sydney Water's Asset Data Base. The yellow highlight is a 500mm diameter ductile iron water main , the blue lines are 150mm clay gravity sewer mains (which clearly service Blue Bet now), and the green is a 900mm clay sewer main.

The only service of concern there would be the watermain, but even that could be duplicated and switched over without too much fuss (probably cost ~$500k max). The 900mm sewer, doesn't appear to be an issue at all.

 

[JD-Roo]

This is from Sydney Water's Asset Data Base. The yellow highlight is a 500mm diameter ductile iron water main , the blue lines are 150mm clay gravity sewer mains (which clearly service Blue Bet now), and the green is a 900mm clay sewer main.

The only service of concern there would be the watermain, but even that could be duplicated and switched over without too much fuss (probably cost ~$500k max). The 900mm sewer, doesn't appear to be an issue at all.

For what it's worth, here a quick-and-nasty overlay of the two most recent BlueBet images in the conversation. Hope it helps.

 

[Iamback]

For what it's worth, here a quick-and-nasty overlay of the two most recent BlueBet images in the conversation. Hope it helps.

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The Blue inbetween Howell Oval and Bluebet was what stopped a Stand being on that hill

 

[Perth Red]

The Blue inbetween Howell Oval and Bluebet was what stopped a Stand being on that hill

Considering the other stand has been built over the same pipe I dont see why it would.

 

[JD-Roo]

Considering the other stand has been built over the same pipe I dont see why it would.

Splitting hairs you could say 'next to' rather than 'over' the blue line/pipe (allowing for fudging in the overlay).

And I'd assume the foundations required for that shelter on the end would be far less than a more significant future grandstand.

 

[Perth Red]

Splitting hairs you could say 'next to' rather than 'over' the blue line/pipe (allowing for fudging in the overlay).

And I'd assume the foundations required for that shelter on the end would be far less than a more significant future grandstand.

I was talking about the same or similar blue pipe thats running under the main stand

 

[Canard]

The Blue inbetween Howell Oval and Bluebet was what stopped a Stand being on that hill

Considering the other stand has been built over the same pipe I dont see why it would.

Splitting hairs you could say 'next to' rather than 'over' the blue line/pipe (allowing for fudging in the overlay).

And I'd assume the foundations required for that shelter on the end would be far less than a more significant future grandstand.

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There is no way a 150mm diameter gravity sewer line prevented any major works from occurring.


Its not a major asset and clearly only services this stadium, it could easily be relocated/re-aligned and for very little cost.

 

[Suitman]

The Blue inbetween Howell Oval and Bluebet was what stopped a Stand being on that hill

No. It was more likely the cost.
There's no reason a stand could not be built at this end. It just takes a bit of civil works to re-route that line.
It was more than likely cost that prevented it at the time.
Water and sewerage infrastructure gets upgraded or relocated all the time due to new civil works.

 

[JD-Roo]

I was talking about the same or similar blue pipe thats running under the main stand
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Thanks. Wrong blue line for me. Oops.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

The Blue inbetween Howell Oval and Bluebet was what stopped a Stand being on that hill

From Canard’s info the yellow seems to be the problematic one, not the blue. But in a full knockdown and rebuild situation it’ll probably be feasible to re-route a short section of it if necessary.

 

[Canard]

From Canard’s info the yellow seems to be the problematic one, not the blue. But in a full knockdown and rebuild situation it’ll probably be feasible to re-route a short section of it if necessary.

The blue lines (standard diameter gravity sewer) would cost very little in the grand scheme of thing to relocate.

The yellow line (an under pressure large diameter watermain) is a bigger deal, as in you hit that and you would cause major issues with everyone's water supply in the area. BUT looking at that area, it would relatively straightforward to duplicate on another alignment and switch it over (but still not much change out of half a mill or so)