The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Timbo]

Gould may have said it, it doesn't mean it's true.

It's about 840km from Port Moresby to Cairns as the crow flies. There are helicopters with that range, but the civil (ie - nonmilitary) ones would be really pushing it as they tend to top out at 900-1000kmh.

What's more likely is that there would have been a medivac plane on standby - this also makes significantly more sense, given your average helicopter has a top speed of 300kmh and that's with your pedal to the metal. The planes they use for the Royal Flying Doctors Service however, if we look at the smallest and slowest of their fleet, it has a range of 3,000km and can hit 550kph.

Why the f**k would you have someone in a helicopter for three-four hours that would have to refuel in Weipa if they copped a headwind when you could have someone in a plane for 90 minutes with fuel to spare?

 

[Canard]

Again though

Look at the countries playing cricket and soccer tournaments, far worse countries do it.

How many of those 80% who drop out would stay if they had to so they could play footy or even still if they were paid as part of development squad?

That is the sort of stuff these arrangements aim for

Run me through the great gamut of countries, that are "far worse" then PNG, that have academies supporting major professional sports teams in another country.

 

[Canard]

Gould may have said it, it doesn't mean it's true.

It's about 840km from Port Moresby to Cairns as the crow flies. There are helicopters with that range, but the civil (ie - nonmilitary) ones would be really pushing it as they tend to top out at 900-1000kmh.

What's more likely is that there would have been a medivac plane on standby - this also makes significantly more sense, given your average helicopter has a top speed of 300kmh and that's with your pedal to the metal. The planes they use for the Royal Flying Doctors Service however, if we look at the smallest and slowest of their fleet, it has a range of 3,000km and can hit 550kph.

Why the f**k would you have someone in a helicopter for three-four hours that would have to refuel in Weipa if they copped a headwind when you could have someone in a plane for 90 minutes with fuel to spare?

Gould was either way wrong, or just bullshitting.

Which seems to be the approach with a lot of discussion about PNG at the moment.

 

[Iamback]

Run me through the great gamut of countries, that are "far worse" then PNG, that have academies supporting major professional sports teams in another country.

Where does it say that the academy will be based here? Just the NRL side. So the development officers etc haven't will be on the ground

but here goes:

South Africa was a mess when they hosted the RU World Cup in 1995

Pakistan couldn't play tests at home for 20 odd years

Last tour of SL, there was a politcal coup while Australia toured.

We had to eat dinner at a restaurant via candle light due to power shortages.... Yet found enough to broadcast and run games under lights.

Afghanistan - enough said but are currently playing in the cricket world Cup

Australia to qualify for the soccer world Cup need to fly over a warzone.

That is without the number of developing countries forking out millions to host Olympics and Soccer World Cups.

So this sort of thing has happened before, Not sure this will get off the ground over better placed bids

 

[Munky]

South Africa and Pakistan were nuclear powers in 90s.

Comparing them to PNG is laughable.

They are both significantly developed countries with an insane disparity in wealth distribution.

Afghanistan makes a cameo every four years.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

SA and Pakistan for all their problems have orders of magnitude more capability to support professional sports than PNG, they’re not even comparable.

 

[Wb1234]

This thread has gone putrid

 

[GAZF]

What's your preference "developing country"?

The term "Global South" is pretty hot right now.

 

[Iamback]

SA and Pakistan for all their problems have orders of magnitude more capability to support professional sports than PNG, they’re not even comparable.

I am not arguing merely pointing out other countries that have tried to use Sport to improve their lives.

That is what is the aim here afterall, keeping 1 professional team going at the same time

 

[The Great Dane]

It doesn't say "locked in", it was a number seemingly pulled out of that journo's arse.

The official quote from Albo and the NRL was "noting has been decided yet"

Nothing was allocated in the FY24 budget

And LOL at the suggestion a hospital could be setup just to cater for the rich NRL players. Are you 12 years old?

Even bigger lol at the suggestion that you could build even a single wing of a hospital with what's left over from A$60mil after you take out the costs of funding all the RL and social programs.

You couldn't fund the construction of a modern hospital even if you took all of that $600mil figure and threw it at it, @lambak is just clueless.

 

[The Great Dane]

I am not arguing merely pointing out other countries that have tried to use Sport to improve their lives.

That is what is the aim here afterall, keeping 1 professional team going at the same time

No it's not lol.

The aim is for Albo and his corrupt mates to try and pretend they're doing something to oppose China's growing influence in the region without actually doing anything to oppose China because that would piss them off and further hurt our trade relations with them. Oh and try to buy some votes along the way, but that's not working.

 

[MugaB]

Gould was either way wrong, or just bullshitting.

Which seems to be the approach with a lot of discussion about PNG at the moment.

There are helicopters that can do that range, again you discounted that fact as your bias against this bid is just proving how massively salty you are, whether you agree with gould is irrelevant, he said it, you tried to call me out on it, and you look stupid for the whole argument, like i said before, you should go talk wth your other cowboy friends on the Cowboys threads about RL, and leave the expansion threads or this stadium threads for people who aren't so close minded

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Can we move this to the helicopter thread?

 

[Perth Red]

Back to stadiums and PNG where this thread derail started lol, presumably the national stadium is the one they will look to upgrade? A new spectator main stand replacing that smaller scaffolding thing would be enough to get it to 20k plus and be ok for PNG NRL club? Be interesting to know if our Govts generosity to our poor neighbour stretches to stadiums as well.

 

[Canard]

There are helicopters that can do that range, again you discounted that fact as your bias against this bid is just proving how massively you are, whether you agree with gould is irrelevant, he said it, you tried to call me out on it, and you look stupid for the whole argument, like i said before, you should go talk wth your other cowboy friends on the Cowboys threads about RL, and leave the expansion threads or this stadium threads for people who aren't s close minded

That's the problem, you accept any old bullshit on face value.

 

[Canard]

Back to stadiums and PNG where this thread derail started lol, presumably the national stadium is the one they will look to upgrade? A new spectator main stand replacing that small scaffolding thing would be enough to get it to 20k plus and be ok for PNG NRL club? Be interesting to know if our Govts generosity to our poor neighbour stretches to stadiums as well.

Given how few games they are claiming will be played there, and how little economic benefit any work would deliver, I'd say there isn't any realistic chance of any upgrades.

 

[Perth Red]

Given how few games they are claiming will be played there, and how little economic benefit any work would deliver, I'd say there isn't any realistic chance of any upgrades.

TBF the throwing of our money at this isnt exactly built on sound financial outcome or a strong business case! At the least if it happens then to leave some sort of legacy in stadium improvement wouldnt be a bad thing. 15k is too small for a national stadium, especially one hosting NRl games. Get it up to 20-25k with another roofed main stand and at least the money will have built something useful.

 

[The Great Dane]

It'd be f**king hilarious if the government built a stadium in Port Moresby before building one Canberra lol.

f**king over your own people to virtue signal to an international community that only cares in so much as you're useful to them is such an Australian thing to do.

 

[Wb1234]

TBF the throwing of our money at this isnt exactly built on sound financial outcome or a strong business case! At the least if it happens then to leave some sort of legacy in stadium improvement wouldnt be a bad thing. 15k is too small for a national stadium, especially one hosting NRl games. Get it up to 20-25k with another roofed main stand and at least the money will have built something useful.

Maybe wait and see what the png govt brings to the table ?

25k would be the bare minimum and it’s not safe for players as is

 

[Perth Red]

Maybe wait and see what the png govt brings to the table ?

25k would be the bare minimum and it’s not safe for players as is

The PNG govt hardly is flush with cash, its rann massive budget deficits for last few years, thats why the whole folly needs Australian $'s. They arent spending on a stadium upgrade.