The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Canard]

If they were to do Suncorp and the Gabba (or new oval) both before the Olympics you’d think they’d want do the oval first. They could then hold Origin & Broncos game at the new/bigger oval while Suncorp is done.

The catch with that is it gives the stadiums = bad & Fitzsimmons types several years to run their “Schools & Hospitals” campaign that they did with the Stadium Australia rebuild.

Fitzsimmons opinion holds no weight in QLD.

 

[Bukowski]

And the Rentaloos

Is that a joke? Tell me they dont have
port a loos

 

[jim_57]

If suncorp gets done and hosts the ceremonies than i don't see a need for the gabba at all.

Any money spent to accommodate an athletics track should be spent to tart up QSAC which currently has a higher capacity and is an actual athletics stadium.
Because outside of the olympics there is no need for big athletics stadiums and it would be a shame to use it as justification for a big money upgrade when it will only really directly benefit afl.

No doubt the gabba will probably get a significant sum of money spent on it though.

Yeh I get what you’re saying but I dare say the Olympics wouldn’t be too happy with the lack of transport options QSAC has, Victoria Park too for that matter isn’t near a train station, it does have the lines running past though so a station could be added but there goes a chunk of money.

No reason why Suncorp can’t host the ceremonies though and be the “face” of the Games.

 

[jim_57]

Fitzsimmons opinion holds no weight in QLD.

It shouldn’t hold any weight anywhere. I’m sure there will be some like him that try to run the “Schools & Hospitals” campaign anyway. Hopefully Queensland ignores them.

 

[jim_57]

'Long overdue': Liberals blast Barr, fire shot in stadium stoush

ACT Opposition Leader Elizabeth Lee has declared the rebuild of Canberra Stadium is set to become a key election issue as the saga drags on into its 15th year.

Chief Minister Andrew Barr announced a seventh feasibility study for the project in February after unveiling yet another preferred location for the venue.
This time the ACT leader plans to build the stadium on the site of the old Canberra Raiders headquarters in Bruce, currently a NSW Rugby League training venue.

Mr Barr has commissioned another study to explore the suitability of the site, with the Chief Minister eager to finalise the new venue's location this year.
Stadiums have become hot-button election issues in cities around the country in recent times, with Canberra likely to be no different.
The saga has bubbled away for more than a decade and threatens to boil over in the lead up to the October ACT election as tensions grow.
Ms Lee said Canberrans have a right to feel frustrated by the repeated delays and said a city stadium remains the Liberal Party's preferred location.
"As we've always said, we do see merit in the stadium being in a city location and that is still our preference," Ms Lee said.
"It's still on the table and we'll have a lot more to say in the lead up to the election on it."

Opposition leader Elizabeth Lee and Chief Minister Andrew Barr are set to clash over Canberra stadium in the lead up to this year's election. Pictures by Keegan Carroll, Karleen Minney
A city stadium remains the preference of both the ACT Brumbies and Canberra Raiders, however Barr has repeatedly declared it is off the table.
The delays have left the two teams frustrated as they continue to play in an ageing 47-year-old venue that is rapidly approaching the end of its useful life and risks becoming unfit for professional sport.
Raiders chief executive Don Furner recently returned from a trip to Las Vegas and saw firsthand the impact a new stadium can have on a city after attending the NRL's season launch at the $2 billion Allegiant Stadium.

Ms Lee shared Furner's frustrations and said a Liberal government would fast-track the stadium process if she wins the upcoming election.
"We are looking at the options and we know it's long overdue," she said. "We're talking about Andrew Barr who first proposed a stadium back in 2009 and 15 years later we're back to square one in a way with another feasibility study announced a few weeks ago.
"We know Canberrans have been pretty patient when it comes to it and [a new stadium] is an important step forward in not only sporting culture here in the capital but also as a city.
Ms Lee's comments come after she attended Thoroughbred Park for Sunday's Black Opal meeting.
A modern record of 8472 fans attended the event as Canberrans turned out in force to support the feature raceday.
There has been plenty of conjecture over the need for a new stadium, particularly given years of declining Brumbies crowds.
The franchise points to the state of Canberra Stadium as a key reason attendances have fallen and Ms Lee is confident fans will turn out in force if the facilities are suitable.
"Canberrans love getting behind their local teams," she said. "You see that across all sports, rugby but you've got Canberra United and the Capitals, look at how well they are doing.
"There's no doubt Canberrans love supporting their teams and I think if we had a world-class venue, that would only make it even better."

 

[blue bags]

Future of Shark Park ?

 

[Marlins]

Future of Shark Park ?

When all construction is finished the current stadium will have around 16k capacity, although the club said 18,17, now 16 so who knows.
they’ve boxed the ground in with limited space to expand. The best bet for the sharks at this stage is to probably sell the ground and with the money found somewhere else to build a boutique stadium. Or maybe that lad from America might become their sugar daddy and pay for it

 

[blue bags]

Is that still the plan? Whilst not a great at least it would be a huge improvement on 12-13k for a start. Not sure how much bigger than that it can get though.

The golf course is the future
Massive New stadium

 

[blue bags]

When all construction is finished the current stadium will have around 16k capacity, although the club said 18,17, now 16 so who knows.
they’ve boxed the ground in with limited space to expand. The best bet for the sharks at this stage is to probably sell the ground and with the money found somewhere else to build a boutique stadium. Or maybe that lad from America might become their sugar daddy and pay for it

Woolaware golf course. Or
Karreela golf course
Now both are prime land for a massive stadium

 

[Marlins]

Woolaware golf course. Or
Karreela golf course
Now both are prime land for a massive stadium

Maybe Kareela seeing as how they own it.
maybe the council can help out somewhere

 

[blue bags]

Maybe Kareela seeing as how they own it.
maybe the council can help out somewhere

That's the future for the mighty Sharks

 

[shewi6]

When all construction is finished the current stadium will have around 16k capacity, although the club said 18,17, now 16 so who knows.
they’ve boxed the ground in with limited space to expand. The best bet for the sharks at this stage is to probably sell the ground and with the money found somewhere else to build a boutique stadium. Or maybe that lad from America might become their sugar daddy and pay for it

They will never do it but the sfs is right there!
Then they can turn shark park into a training paddock with a centre of excellence built on the northern hill and flog off/develop the rest of the land around the field for apartments and commercial real estate.

 

[horrie hastings]

A massive 17k...

And Brookvale or 4 Pines as its called at the moment even with a reduced capacity can hold 18,000.

 

[shewi6]

And Brookvale or 4 Pines as its called at the moment even with a reduced capacity can hold 18,000.

Yeh and brooky is a shithole as well with only one decent stand and a hodgepodge of hill and old stands.

Difference is that manly management realise this and have been lobbying for improvements for years and have been successful in using their grant money for the centre of excellence to actually improve the ground as well despite not owning it.

 

[shewi6]

So looks like it is down to to options with a gabba rebuild completely dead.

Option A: New 50k stadium at victoria park for olympic duties and afl and cricket after with the gabba demolished and turned into an indoor arena ala madison square garden.

Option B: Upgrade Suncorp with an extra 10 to 15k seats for ceremonies and spruce up QSAC for athletics.

Obviously option B would be the best outcome for queenslanders, it is cheaper and will not result in losing parkland in the city.

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Gabba D-day to reveal the future as Brisbane Olympics draws near
There is no match on at the Gabba on Monday but it could be the most significant day in the venue’s history, as big decisions are to come with the Olympics on the horizon.

MONDAY is shaping as the most significant day in the history of the Gabba since Australia’s iconic tied Test with the West Indies more than six decades ago.

Former Lord Mayor Graham Quirk will hand down his review of Olympic venues for the 2032 Games and the fate of the Gabba - to spruce it up, knock it down or give it a lick of paint as Olympic boss Matt Carroll once suggested - is at the top of the list.

The one certainty is the initial suggestion of a full knock-down and rebuild has as much chance of getting up as a refloating of the Titanic.

With a state election just seven months away both parties know such grand spending would be political poison given 80% of Queenslanders say the state cannot afford it.

Queensland cricket officials are on tenterhooks because if nothing happens the venue will be set indefinitely as Australia’s No. 5 Test cricket venue with seemingly no chance to improve this ranking for a decade or more.

It’s not that the Gabba is a complete shambles as a Test venue - it’s just that the four above it are better.

If a proposal backed by former South Bank chair Steve Wilson takes flight there is a chance the Gabba could be knocked down and the region transformed into a Madison Square Garden-style arena with a 50,000 seat cricket-AFL ground built at Victoria Park.

This proposal has been well received but its greatest hurdle is that it has a deliberate focus on legacy rather than cost-cutting at a time when Olympic hosts are being urged to tighten their belts.

If the Gabba is simply left to be what it is it is likely to be because Quirk prefers a plan suggested by Olympic supremo John Coates to hold the opening and closing ceremonies at Suncorp Stadium which would be renovated to make room for an extra 10 to 15,000 people.

Under this plan the athletics would be held at the same venue which hosted track and field at the 1982 Commonwealth Games – QSAC Stadium – which, back in ‘82, had its temporary stands rocking with joy when Raelene Boyle stormed to victory in the 400m.

It has been stated that a renovated QSAC stadium would become a legacy venue for Queensland athletics but critics of this project say Queensland Athletics does not need a new stadium and that the current one – modest in nature but still spacious and relatively comfortable – suits just fine.

The one certainty about Quirk’s plan is that it will not please everyone. There is simply not enough money to keep all the sports happy.

That means plenty of drama ahead.

It would not be the Games without it.

 

[The Great Dane]

'Long overdue': Liberals blast Barr, fire shot in stadium stoush

ACT Opposition Leader Elizabeth Lee has declared the rebuild of Canberra Stadium is set to become a key election issue as the saga drags on into its 15th year.

Chief Minister Andrew Barr announced a seventh feasibility study for the project in February after unveiling yet another preferred location for the venue.
This time the ACT leader plans to build the stadium on the site of the old Canberra Raiders headquarters in Bruce, currently a NSW Rugby League training venue.

Mr Barr has commissioned another study to explore the suitability of the site, with the Chief Minister eager to finalise the new venue's location this year.
Stadiums have become hot-button election issues in cities around the country in recent times, with Canberra likely to be no different.
The saga has bubbled away for more than a decade and threatens to boil over in the lead up to the October ACT election as tensions grow.
Ms Lee said Canberrans have a right to feel frustrated by the repeated delays and said a city stadium remains the Liberal Party's preferred location.
"As we've always said, we do see merit in the stadium being in a city location and that is still our preference," Ms Lee said.
"It's still on the table and we'll have a lot more to say in the lead up to the election on it."

Opposition leader Elizabeth Lee and Chief Minister Andrew Barr are set to clash over Canberra stadium in the lead up to this year's election. Pictures by Keegan Carroll, Karleen Minney
A city stadium remains the preference of both the ACT Brumbies and Canberra Raiders, however Barr has repeatedly declared it is off the table.
The delays have left the two teams frustrated as they continue to play in an ageing 47-year-old venue that is rapidly approaching the end of its useful life and risks becoming unfit for professional sport.
Raiders chief executive Don Furner recently returned from a trip to Las Vegas and saw firsthand the impact a new stadium can have on a city after attending the NRL's season launch at the $2 billion Allegiant Stadium.

Ms Lee shared Furner's frustrations and said a Liberal government would fast-track the stadium process if she wins the upcoming election.
"We are looking at the options and we know it's long overdue," she said. "We're talking about Andrew Barr who first proposed a stadium back in 2009 and 15 years later we're back to square one in a way with another feasibility study announced a few weeks ago.
"We know Canberrans have been pretty patient when it comes to it and [a new stadium] is an important step forward in not only sporting culture here in the capital but also as a city.
Ms Lee's comments come after she attended Thoroughbred Park for Sunday's Black Opal meeting.
A modern record of 8472 fans attended the event as Canberrans turned out in force to support the feature raceday.
There has been plenty of conjecture over the need for a new stadium, particularly given years of declining Brumbies crowds.
The franchise points to the state of Canberra Stadium as a key reason attendances have fallen and Ms Lee is confident fans will turn out in force if the facilities are suitable.
"Canberrans love getting behind their local teams," she said. "You see that across all sports, rugby but you've got Canberra United and the Capitals, look at how well they are doing.
"There's no doubt Canberrans love supporting their teams and I think if we had a world-class venue, that would only make it even better."

I'd ask the Libs to say exactly where they plan to build a stadium in the Civic, as realistically there's no space, but there's no point as there's no chance of the ACT Libs getting elected...

Ms Lee's criticisms are all fair though, and the stadium and it's location are a major factor that has stunted both the Brumbies and Raiders attendances. It's not unrealistic to suggest that the Raiders could be averaging 20k, but it won't happen so long as they're stuck with Bruce.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

This thread is going to be interesting come Monday with the release of the report on what to do with stadiums in Brisbane for the Olympics. 70k Suncorp is rumoured to be part of it

Big Footy will be in melt down if true.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Who the f**k are you?

Why would the dolphins don't care about what some seaslug on the internet thinks.

Your name should be Always Mean.

 

[Canard]

Your name should be Always Mean.

 

[ground zero]

Is that a joke? Tell me they dont have
port a loos

Yes you can see them on tv in a corner on the hill.