The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[jim_57]

A ground for ‘Taylor Swift concerts’ is the next incarnation of ‘multi-use’ from Victorians.

Just wish they were honest and say ‘we want a big ozzie rules oval to show who’s boss’.

There is also quite a few holes in the theory.

1. Even if they built a 70k Oval it still wouldn’t steal concerts off Accor or MCG. Doubtful she would move her whole set to extra cities and extend the tour when she knows everyone from Queensland, SA, WA etc will travel to Sydney/Melbourne and she’ll sell out in 5 seconds regardless.
2. The stadium was only going to be 55k anyway so by that logic Perth would have got shows, but they didn’t.
3. She has only played 1 or 2 cities in countries far more populated than Australia, again she knows the people will come to her.
4. Taylor Swift is about the only artist it applies to currently, Ed Sheeran is about the only one close I can think of and he played at Suncorp.

Using it as an argument for their White Elephant proposal just shows they have f**k all else.

 

[Perth Red]

Well he is right. Why are you so sad that the government isn’t spending money that directly benefits fumbleball?

I know and you know that if they went with the stupid Victoria Park stadium then that would have benefited only fumbleball. The fumblers have got plenty of good stadiums around the country

It’s sad that no other country has to put up with this cancer but it is what it is.

I’ve no skin in the game so as a neutral it looks a pretty sht outcome for $3billion. A small athletics stadium and patching up two old stadiums. And Olympics with a sub standard main venue that’ll embarrass australia. It’s not great.

if the $500mill adds 10-15k seats to Suncorp then that’s great for RL, soccer and union.

 

[Colk]

I’ve no skin in the game so as a neutral it looks a pretty sht outcome for $3billion. A small athletics stadium and patching up two old stadiums. And Olympics with a sub standard main venue that’ll embarrass australia. It’s not great.

You’ve been to Stadium Australia - you should not want that.

If we could build something like the Stade de France or Allianz (Munich) which has some type of multi use capacity but still be great than fine but you know that this is just a ruse for the fumblers.

Hence I am not neutral about it. Stuff them.

 

[Perth Red]

And how gullible are you for believing the gabba needs all this money or it will collapse tomorrow.

Obviously this report was biased and the guy behind it wanted the outcome to be a grand new stadium, something that would be forever linked to him.

Luckily the premier saw through the BS and we aren't giving the afl a massive free kick, probably why you are so upset.

Lets just look at the facts, the oldest stands at the gabba and suncorp were both built in the early 90's. Then suncorp had the rest built and finished in 2002, while the gabba had the same done in 2005. In 2020 it also had 30 million spent upgrading corporate, media entrance and spectator facilities.

Now they say the gabba is outdated, in need of serious repair and not built to modern building code? Get f**ked, if that were the case than suncorp would be worse and should be first cab off the rank.

The big push for a new stadium is coming from people who want the benefits of lavish, gold plated corporate facilities (afl and cricket) so they can wine and dine their sponsors and make money off the back of qld taxpayers.

And it is so obvious the angle they are pushing, meanwhile the main stadium in brisbane was going to recieve nothing. A stadium that will go close to have 1 million people attending just rugby league games this year, plus union, soccer and concerts.

The only people not happy with this are flogball fans, real rugby league supporters are happy and it is a no brainer to put money into suncorp.

It was an independent review, why do you think it was biased one way or another? Maybe, just maybe it was a genuine best option form the review undertaken? It allegedly cost $500k to produce so youd hope it was well researched.

 

[Perth Red]

You’ve been to Stadium Australia - you should not want that.

If we could build something like the Stade de France or Allianz (Munich) which has some type of multi use capacity but still be great than fine but you know that this is just a ruse for the fumblers.

Hence I am not neutral about it. Stuff them.

What I’d have liked to see is a new Olympic stadium, and sure afl and cricket would benefit but so what, and Suncorp at some point turned into a world class large stadium. This delivers neither. Brisbane had the chance to have the best stadiums of both shapes in the country and fluffed it as the govt got cold feet.

 

[Chins get the wins]

I’ve no skin in the game so as a neutral it looks a pretty sht outcome for $3billion. A small athletics stadium and patching up two old stadiums. And Olympics with a sub standard main venue that’ll embarrass australia. It’s not great.

if the $500mill adds 10-15k seats to Suncorp then that’s great for RL, soccer and union.

No skin in the game........65k posts slagging off rugby league and defending Vìctàrdball prove otherwise

 

[Colk]

It was an independent review, why do you think it was biased one way or another? Maybe, just maybe it was a genuine best option form the review undertaken? It allegedly cost $500k to produce so youd hope it was well researched.

There is no such thing as an independent review- it is an oxymoron. There is always an interest being pushed.

 

[Perth Red]

There is no such thing as an independent review- it is an oxymoron. There is always an interest being pushed.

You’re moving into tin foil hat territory lol

 

[Colk]

What I’d have liked to see is a new Olympic stadium, and sure afl and cricket would benefit but so what, and Suncorp at some point turned into a world class large stadium. This delivers neither. Brisbane had the chance to have the best stadiums of both shapes in the country and fluffed it as the govt got cold feet.

Why do I care about afl and cricket getting a shiny new stadium that would again supersede a rectangular stadium. That is what has happened right across the country - we need better rectangular stadiums in this country and not anymore f***** ovals

Also, if you seriously think that Suncorp would have got any decent funding after a $3.4 billion white elephant oval then you are very naive.

 

[Colk]

You’re moving into tin foil hat territory lol

Please.

They decided to push the most expensive option forward after essentially being awarded the games on the basis that they wouldn’t need to build any new stadium. All for a 55k stadium that would be used how often exactly and by whom? It fails every ROI test you’d imagine.

 

[shewi6]

But you do have skin in the game in that the afl would have got a massive free leg up in a state where they are openly trying to destroy rugby league and overtake us. You being a true supporter of rugby leagues best interests should be able to see that.

And you want a world class olympic venue for what? For 2 weeks and 4 billion dollars when all is said and done and left with a stadium that doesn't benefit the majority of sports and customers of the state.
That is not the 'genuine best option of the review'.

And it is too early to say that the new QSAC will be substandard and an embarrassment when you don't even know what it will look like.
Same as the argument the flogball fans are putting up that the gabba will still not be fit for purpose after having up to half a billion spent on upgrades and will need 1 billion more to get it to 2032 and then demolished for a new stadium. Complete nonsense.

If that were the case then suncorp is getting seriously shortchanged and that would make brisbane look pathetic on a world stage.

@Perth Red

 

[Wb1234]

I’ve no skin in the game so as a neutral it looks a pretty sht outcome for $3billion. A small athletics stadium and patching up two old stadiums. And Olympics with a sub standard main venue that’ll embarrass australia. It’s not great.

if the $500mill adds 10-15k seats to Suncorp then that’s great for RL, soccer and union.

Arent You pretending to be a rugby league fan

If so then you should be pretending to be happy Suncorp is getting upgraded

 

[shewi6]

Please.

They decided to push the most expensive option forward after essentially being awarded the games on the basis that they wouldn’t need to build any new stadium. All for a 55k stadium that would be used how often exactly and by whom? It fails every ROI test you’d imagine.

And lets remember the reason for this review was because the people said 2.7B was too much for the gabba.
It was originally meant to be a 1B stadium, so costs nearly tripled in a few years and there is no guarentee it would not blow out even further for the gabba or the victoria park site.
All for a white elephant stadium so the afl can have a new and shiny thing in rugby league heartland.

 

[Perth Red]

But you do have skin in the game in that the afl would have got a massive free leg up in a state where they are openly trying to destroy rugby league and overtake us. You being a true supporter of rugby leagues best interests should be able to see that.

And you want a world class olympic venue for what? For 2 weeks and 4 billion dollars when all is said and done and left with a stadium that doesn't benefit the majority of sports and customers of the state.
That is not the 'genuine best option of the review'.

And it is too early to say that the new QSAC will be substandard and an embarrassment when you don't even know what it will look like.
Same as the argument the flogball fans are putting up that the gabba will still not be fit for purpose after having up to half a billion spent on upgrades and will need 1 billion more to get it to 2032 and then demolished for a new stadium. Complete nonsense.

If that were the case then suncorp is getting seriously shortchanged and that would make brisbane look pathetic on a world stage.

@Perth Red

I don’t buy onto the afl is serious threat bs. They’ll never be a serious threat to rl in qlnd, new stadium or no new stadium.

this funding was supposed to be to deliver the best Olympic Games possible, and leave some legacy behind. At least the Gabba plan did that both for stadia and the development around it which would have been great for tourism.

improving Suncorp is a very different issue and nothing to do with the olympics. It’s only been chucked in as vote winner by a govt on the rocks facing an election, and at the expanse of the Olympics which is a great shame. Good for rl, shame for the Olympics.

 

[Perth Red]

Arent You pretending to be a rugby league fan

If so then you should be pretending to be happy Suncorp is getting upgraded

I think it’s great it’s getting upgraded, details pending. But this is about the Olympics, not about RL.

 

[Colk]

And lets remember the reason for this review was because the people said 2.7B was too much for the gabba.
It was originally meant to be a 1B stadium, so costs nearly tripled in a few years and there is no guarentee it would not blow out even further for the gabba or the victoria park site.
All for a white elephant stadium so the afl can have a new and shiny thing in rugby league heartland.

The problem is that in other countries where you don’t have a s*** sport that has to be played on an oval field you could have faith that they would build a stadium for the Olympics that could be used for multiple different sports and be still very decent (Wembley, Stade de France etc). But you know as soon as the fumblers get their mits on it they will make sure that the configuration doesn’t suit other sports as much as theirs.

Look at Stadium Australia - should have been configured to a 80-100k rectangular stadium and it was completely screwed and they haven’t played a game there since what? It would have to be at least five years. What an absolute waste

 

[Wb1234]

I think it’s great it’s getting upgraded, details pending. But this is about the Olympics, not about RL.

This is a rugby league forum

Suncorp is a rugby league ground largely

you should be thrilled

 

[shewi6]

I don’t buy onto the afl is serious threat bs. They’ll never be a serious threat to rl in qlnd, new stadium or no new stadium.

this funding was supposed to be to deliver the best Olympic Games possible, and leave some legacy behind. At least the Gabba plan did that both for stadia and the development around it which would have been great for tourism.

improving Suncorp is a very different issue and nothing to do with the olympics. It’s only been chucked in as vote winner by a govt on the rocks facing an election, and at the expanse of the Olympics which is a great shame. Good for rl, shame for the Olympics.

Absoloute bullshit mate. You are always whingeing and complaining how AFL does everything better than the NRL and how we are going to be left behind if we don't improve.

And you don't think having a brand new stadium with a bigger capacity than suncorp won't help them achieve their goal of growing in qld?

This olympics was never about being the best and biggest, it was supposed to be the first that was scaled appropriately and used existing venues so as not to be a financial drain on the hosts. All in the name of keeping people interested in bidding for future olympics.
Hell Brisbane is the de facto host after no one else put in serious bids.

 

[Colk]

I don’t buy onto the afl is serious threat bs. They’ll never be a serious threat to rl in qlnd, new stadium or no new stadium.

this funding was supposed to be to deliver the best Olympic Games possible, and leave some legacy behind. At least the Gabba plan did that both for stadia and the development around it which would have been great for tourism.

improving Suncorp is a very different issue and nothing to do with the olympics. It’s only been chucked in as vote winner by a govt on the rocks facing an election, and at the expanse of the Olympics which is a great shame. Good for rl, shame for the Olympics.

Talk about walking into a point you don’t want contend with.

Pray do tell what legacy would a 55k stadium leave that would be used by a (relatively) unpopular sport and would never be filled? Before you go on about concerts or events the capacity would not take events away from Sydney or Melbourne either. So what is the legacy of a stadium that is essentially going to be either dormant or half filled; particularly if you leave the more popular or heavily patronised stadium unfunded?

It seems like a really stupid legacy

 

[Perth Red]

This olympics was never about being the best and biggest, it was supposed to be the first that was scaled appropriately and used existing venues so as not to be a financial drain on the hosts. All in the name of keeping people interested in bidding for future olympics.
Hell Brisbane is the de facto host after no one else put in serious bids.

that was bs, fact was brisbane didnt have a suitable Olympic stadium sitting there ready to go so they were always going to have build something.