The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Vlad59]

Jimmy jack one of my favourites

Great player mate. From the great days!

 

[Canard]

Go to any game in the country if you get a hard on over a hill.

 

[Bukowski]

Go to any game in the country if you get a hard on over a hill.

Looks like Jimmy was sitting in the stand!

 

[SpaceMonkey]

I notice Gary isn’t on the hill though, he’s taking his photo from a stand/box…

 

[Captain Apollo]

How venues NSW, or whoever it was, allowed the afl to come in and keep the stadium in the configuration it is in, and only used a handful of games is disgusting. The afl lined the pockets of someone in a NRL heartland, or it was. QLD’s upgrading Suncorp

Venues NSW weren't even a fart in the wind when it was decided. It was what became trhe Olympic Park Authority that decided it, and it was very much driven from the NSW Cabinet table. Bob Carr didn't care much about sports, and whilst there were some league supporters in his cabinet, there were also a few known AFL supporters (e.g. Ian Macdonald). It aws the AFLK stumping up a few million $ to keep it as "mulit-purpose" that persuaded the Government - they had some iodea they could pinch an AFL Grand Final or two

 

[jim_57]

I notice Gary isn’t on the hill though, he’s taking his photo from a stand/box…

I believe the draft plan from a year or 2 ago was a low stand on the eastern side plus new north & south stands. With a low stand they could probably keep some of hill behind the seating kinda like Newcastle. Would a pretty sweet unique stadium.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

I've got no problems with hills as long as they're concreted, have seats, have access for all and to all amenities and increase a grounds capacity and viewing experience. And are covered

 

[nko11]

I believe the draft plan from a year or 2 ago was a low stand on the eastern side plus new north & south stands. With a low stand they could probably keep some of hill behind the seating kinda like Newcastle. Would a pretty sweet unique stadium.

First I've of heard of this. So had a look and Found the plan. Doesn't give any details on capacity except for a 2,818 Northern stand. Going off the below photos, the eastern stand looks like it would be near or even below the Northern stand.
So 6000 for the Western, 2,818 for the Northern, ~3000? for the southern and est 2,500 for the eastern, you'd be looking at a capacity of ~14,500. Not sure thats what we should be aiming for.

 

[jim_57]

First I've of heard of this. So had a look and Found the plan. Doesn't give any details on capacity except for a 2,818 Northern stand. Going off the below photos, the eastern stand looks like it would be near or even below the Northern stand.
So 6000 for the eastern, 2,818 for the Northern, ~3000? for the southern and est 2,500 for the eastern, you'd be looking at a capacity of ~14,500. Not sure thats what we should be aiming for.
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I can’t find any info about capacities except for the below quote but I doubt they’d spend all that money on a plan to make it smaller.

The state government-owned facilities would receive significant capacity bumps if the proposed upgrades go ahead, with WIN Stadium to be boosted by 7000 spots to a 30,000-person capacity while the WEC would nearly double its capacity to 10,000.

 

[nko11]

I can’t find any info about capacities except for the below quote but I doubt they’d spend all that money on a plan to make it smaller.

Got into the article and it's the same plan. No idea where the Journo got that 30,000 capacity from. He doesn't mention a redev of the western side. So between the Northern, Southern and Eastern you'd need a capacity of 24k. You'd need each stand to hold 2k more than the Western Stand. Not so sure about that.

 

[jim_57]

Got into the article and it's the same plan. No idea where the Journo got that 30,000 capacity from. He doesn't mention a redev of the western side. So between the Northern, Southern and Eastern you'd need a capacity of 24k. You'd need each stand to hold 2k more than the Western Stand. Not so sure about that.

Only other place I read 30k was for concert capacity. Which is normally more than sports capacity but not a huge amount more. Maybe 25k which would be perfect.

You are right in that the numbers don’t seem to add up, but I doubt they’d rebuild the north & south stands plus build a low eastern stand to end up with a smaller capacity. Latest I could find was they were given funding for a business case in mid 2022.

In Tuesday's budget, the government's Enterprise, Investment and Trade Cluster included a funding commitment of $3.5 million ($4.5 million recurrent expenses over two years) to develop a detailed business case and master plan for the precinct.

 

[Wb1234]

on ya albo

 

[Wb1234]

Obviously much better suited to day games than night games

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

I've got no problems with hills as long as they're concreted, have seats, have access for all and to all amenities and increase a grounds capacity and viewing experience. And are covered

And install green coloured seats?

 

[Foreign Legion]

I notice Gary isn’t on the hill though, he’s taking his photo from a stand/box…

Gary Jack high on Crack!

 

[Vlad59]

First I've of heard of this. So had a look and Found the plan. Doesn't give any details on capacity except for a 2,818 Northern stand. Going off the below photos, the eastern stand looks like it would be near or even below the Northern stand.
So 6000 for the Western, 2,818 for the Northern, ~3000? for the southern and est 2,500 for the eastern, you'd be looking at a capacity of ~14,500. Not sure thats what we should be aiming for.
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What is that horrible green round thing next to it? A fumbler playground?

 

[Wb1234]

I notice Gary isn’t on the hill though, he’s taking his photo from a stand/box…

Couldn’t get a seat on the hill it was sold out lol

 

[docbrown]

First I've of heard of this. So had a look and Found the plan. Doesn't give any details on capacity except for a 2,818 Northern stand. Going off the below photos, the eastern stand looks like it would be near or even below the Northern stand.
So 6000 for the Western, 2,818 for the Northern, ~3000? for the southern and est 2,500 for the eastern, you'd be looking at a capacity of ~14,500. Not sure thats what we should be aiming for.
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That's garbage. The Western Stand needs to be similar to Newcastle's. Something like 10-14k capacity.

There's 4 ways of doing it
1) Shift the field 10-15 metres east. In which case you have to replace the North, South and Eastern hill too.

2) Block off that section of Harbour St and build the Western Stand on top of it. I doubt Steelers would like it though in terms of access.

3) Buy that building next door on Burelli St so Steelers don't need Harbour St for access, then build that Western Stand on Harbour St.

4) Shift Harbour Street to the East a few metres and have that section of Harbour Street actually run underneath the new Western Stand - this happens overseas in lots of older cramped cities.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

The western stand at WIN is what, 15 years old if that? It ain’t getting rebuilt any time soon.

 

[nko11]

That's garbage. The Western Stand needs to be similar to Newcastle's. Something like 10-14k capacity.

There's 4 ways of doing it
1) Shift the field 10-15 metres east. In which case you have to replace the North, South and Eastern hill too.

2) Block off that section of Harbour St and build the Western Stand on top of it. I doubt Steelers would like it though in terms of access.

3) Buy that building next door on Burelli St so Steelers don't need Harbour St for access, then build that Western Stand on Harbour St.

4) Shift Harbour Street to the East a few metres and have that section of Harbour Street actually run underneath the new Western Stand - this happens overseas in lots of older cramped cities.

Not sure about the engineering, cost or popularity, but you could have the Western Stand wrapped around to the North and South (similar to the plan but a little higher capacity than 2,818). A full length Western Stand would surely be around 8k and north and south around 8k as well. Instead of the low rise low capacity Eastern stand, build a lower tier up to the height of the hill now, leave a 3-4-5 m gap to the next tier and build an upper tier. Keeps the ocean views which are unique and special for a sports venue, have a grass embankment on the back side of the Stand for the fans to enjoy the view without being cramped on a concourse. You could also have some corporates on the eastern stand with a view out to the ocean. Would make an absolute Mint from those. Gives a capacity of ~25k. And stops the issue of games looking poor when there's rain and noone sits on the hill.

Huge potential for WIN Stadium to not only be a destination venue for Australians, but for international people as well. As far I know there isn't a venue like it in the world.