The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[jim_57]

Local story today on 6PR that WA Govt will spend $300mill turning HBF Park into a 25k + finished stadium in readiness for the Western Bears admission into the NRL!
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Hopefully $300m can get the whole thing finished. At least a new Western stand and northern stand you’d hope. Woshful thinking for a roof on the southern stand and filling in the corners at that price?

 

[Desert Qlder]

A positive step but a waste of time unless they make it a decent 35k+ stadium capable of finals and internationals.

Don’t half arse it Perth.

 

[Pj,Rj,Hj]

A positive step but a waste of time unless they make it a decent 35k+ stadium capable of finals and internationals.

Don’t half arse it Perth.

It's masterplan is for 25000. It may be lower than what some want, but the quality of the ground won't be subpar

 

[Pj,Rj,Hj]

Hopefully $300m can get the whole thing finished. At least a new Western stand and northern stand you’d hope. Woshful thinking for a roof on the southern stand and filling in the corners at that price?

I quite like the open corners and no canopy for the southern stand. I don't want to stadium be turned too inward focused. I think they've got a really decent opportunity to enhance the original Architectural concept of a "stadium in the park". A smaller, rectangle version of Adelaide Oval. A striking modern stadium while still keeping elements of its 100 years historical identity as a suburban ground, important to Perth's sporting culture and the romanticised suburban ground so loved by many NRL fans.
The Moreton Bay figs need to remain visible inside the ground, and may help in forging the relationship between Perth and NS Bears and NS Oval

 

[Perth Red]

Hopefully $300m can get the whole thing finished. At least a new Western stand and northern stand you’d hope. Woshful thinking for a roof on the southern stand and filling in the corners at that price?

Id rather see new west stand and south stand filling in and roofed. North end can be left for a later date.
Our winter weather blows in from the SW so anything to buffer the stadium from it is welcome.

North end Id prefer they extended the standing terracing further back and made it full width with a cantilever roof over it. That'd make the ground unique in Australia and keep the soccer fans happy.

 

[Wb1234]

300 million is a pretty good contribution by the wa govt

together with building a coe and funding juniors you can see why the arlc was keen on the bid

well done wa govt

 

[Suitman]

Id rather see new west stand and south stand filling in and roofed. North end can be left for a later date.
Our winter weather blows in from the SW so anything to buffer the stadium from it is welcome.

North end Id prefer they extended the standing terracing further back and made it full width with a cantilever roof over it. That'd make the ground unique in Australia and keep the soccer fans happy.

I agree.
That would be perfect for HBF.
25000+ capacity would be fine.

 

[Perth Red]

They could cheaply (well compared to a seated stand) add a few thousand capacity by extending the Shed at the North End

 

[yakstorm]

Id rather see new west stand and south stand filling in and roofed. North end can be left for a later date.
Our winter weather blows in from the SW so anything to buffer the stadium from it is welcome.

North end Id prefer they extended the standing terracing further back and made it full width with a cantilever roof over it. That'd make the ground unique in Australia and keep the soccer fans happy.

Listening to the radio segment, it sounds like doing anything significant on the North Stand would just be ultra expensive with the gates there being heritage listed and the tennis club behind the grandstand also needing to be moved.

The segment seems to infer that the main intentions of the upgrade are ro:
- Boost capacity to 25K
- Update & expand the corporate facilities
- Increase the number of permanent amenities

As such, you'd have to think that the only way they'll achieve that is doing the changes you've suggested

 

[Bukowski]

Listening to the radio segment, it sounds like doing anything significant on the North Stand would just be ultra expensive with the gates there being heritage listed and the tennis club behind the grandstand also needing to be moved.

The segment seems to infer that the main intentions of the upgrade are ro:
- Boost capacity to 25K
- Update & expand the corporate facilities
- Increase the number of permanent amenities

As such, you'd have to think that the only way they'll achieve that is doing the changes you've suggested

The north gates and tennis club are a fair distance to the stands. Weird of him to mention them

 

[Pj,Rj,Hj]

Listening to the radio segment, it sounds like doing anything significant on the North Stand would just be ultra expensive with the gates there being heritage listed and the tennis club behind the grandstand also needing to be moved.

The segment seems to infer that the main intentions of the upgrade are ro:
- Boost capacity to 25K
- Update & expand the corporate facilities
- Increase the number of permanent amenities

As such, you'd have to think that the only way they'll achieve that is doing the changes you've suggested

There were a couple forgivable inaccuracies in what was said about the current ground in the radio segment. As Bukowski said, there's a fare distance to the heritage listed Perth Oval Gates. Plenty of room to build without disrupting a tree, let alone the Gates

 

[Perth Red]

The north gates and tennis club are a fair distance to the stands. Weird of him to mention them

Yeh they are nowhere near the north stand

 

[Foreign Legion]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/allan-border-wants-the-gabba-knocked-down-amid-sad-reality/news-story/bab0e3d5d7eb4e7188b8b21c3747204c

 

[Desert Qlder]

The push for a white elephant continues.

 

[Perth Red]

The push for a white elephant continues.

I expected more noise after seeing how magnificent the Stade de France looked. A 40k scaffold stadium really isnt going to cut it!

https://www.news.com.au/sport/olympics/sally-pearson-2032-olympics-must-avoid-embarrassing-australia-on-the-world-stage/news-story/5a7c4124456bc4efb5084b3d371bac24

 

[ash the bash]

Listening to the radio segment, it sounds like doing anything significant on the North Stand would just be ultra expensive with the gates there being heritage listed and the tennis club behind the grandstand also needing to be moved.

The segment seems to infer that the main intentions of the upgrade are ro:
- Boost capacity to 25K
- Update & expand the corporate facilities
- Increase the number of permanent amenities

As such, you'd have to think that the only way they'll achieve that is doing the changes you've suggested

Being a Perth native.

Any potential sites/suburbs for a Western Bears COE/NRLWA development centre that you would like to see ?

Cheers

Was meant for Perth Red

 

[Vlad59]

I expected more noise after seeing how magnificent the Stade de France looked. A 40k scaffold stadium really isnt going to cut it!

https://www.news.com.au/sport/olympics/sally-pearson-2032-olympics-must-avoid-embarrassing-australia-on-the-world-stage/news-story/5a7c4124456bc4efb5084b3d371bac24

Given the stated position of the IOC as presented by none other than John Coates is that they do not want extravagant stadiums in the future as it prices out too many bidders, should we let them know that a Pom living in Perth thousands of kilometres away from Brisbane thinks they are wrong?

 

[Vlad59]

The push for a white elephant continues.

I expected better from him

 

[Wb1234]

I expected more noise after seeing how magnificent the Stade de France looked. A 40k scaffold stadium really isnt going to cut it!

https://www.news.com.au/sport/olympics/sally-pearson-2032-olympics-must-avoid-embarrassing-australia-on-the-world-stage/news-story/5a7c4124456bc4efb5084b3d371bac24

 

[Pj,Rj,Hj]

Given the stated position of the IOC as presented by none other than John Coates is that they do not want extravagant stadiums in the future as it prices out too many bidders, should we let them know that a Pom living in Perth thousands of kilometres away from Brisbane thinks they are wrong?

The IOC don't want extravagant stadiums built that have no economically justifiable legacy post games. They are fine with expensive extravagant stadiums being built for Olympic Games use if they are justifiable to the host cities long term needs.
That is why they were fine with a complete Gabba rebuild. There's far more long term justification in building the *$3.4 billion 50000 seat Victoria Park Stadium and associated infrastructure, than building a *$1.6 billion single use 14000 seat athletics stadium. Brisbane needs a world class test cricket ground / Australian Football stadium to compete with the other 4 major state capitals. No Australian city needs a $1.6 billion 14000 seat athletics stadium. No League, Rugby, or Soccer club would want to cohabit there.

The IOC doesn't want anymore expensive white elephants, which in Brisbane's case is the latter, not the former.