What's new
The Front Row Forums

Register a free account today to become a member of the world's largest Rugby League discussion forum! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

Raiderdave

First Grade
Messages
7,990
we can theorise about what Allianz should be all we want
we're getting a brand new rebuilt 45K seat venue at moore park & thats all she wrote

the only question is wether its built before ANZ is started or after
 

Raiderdave

First Grade
Messages
7,990
Hopefully they make it mint; a stadium worth attending just for the experience of being in it, as Sydney's CBD (or thereabouts) stadium should be.
The best stadium in the Southern Hemisphere for catering, corporate and non-corporate facilities, viewing, etc.
a mini Suncorp with a roof would be worth going to Id think
 
Messages
21,880
we can theorise about what Allianz should be all we want
we're getting a brand new rebuilt 45K seat venue at moore park & thats all she wrote

the only question is wether its built before ANZ is started or after

I think the number may be a bit more flexible than we think. There’s been a push back from some recently that 45k is too big, a while it’s still the likely number I get the feeling they’re at least looking at a smaller option.
 

Perth Red

Post Whore
Messages
69,614
I hope we never hear you talk about the upgrades to nib stadium... newer seats, cmon.

Bit different, the old nib stadium had a scaffold stand with no roof! Allianz isn't too bad when it's not raining and given Roosters are likely the olnly fuutre tenants do you think they are going to be twice as popular with fans attending witha newer stadium?
 

Perth Red

Post Whore
Messages
69,614
Hopefully they make it mint; a stadium worth attending just for the experience of being in it, as Sydney's CBD (or thereabouts) stadium should be.
The best stadium in the Southern Hemisphere for catering, corporate and non-corporate facilities, viewing, etc.

With one nrl tenant, the underwhelming roosters.
 

Saint Doc

Coach
Messages
11,091
http://www.theleader.com.au/story/4...us-stadium-but-with-strings-attached/?cs=1255

Loftus stadium wins council support with extra condition that education facilities must be retained
Murray Trembath17 Oct 2017, 3:45 p.m.
r0_391_4288_2802_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg

University of Wollongong campus on the site of the proposed Loftus stadium.

Sutherland Shire Council has agreed to support Southern Expansion’s plans to build a 25,000 to 30,000 seat stadium at Loftus for its proposed A-League franchise.

However, the council, at its meeting on Monday night, attached a new condition to those previously recommended by staff.

r0_145_2100_1456_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg

Bold plan: Hong Kong-listed real estate company Jiayuan, which is bankrolling the A-League bid, has committed to spending $300 million on the stadium.

The new requirement will be that all existing education facilities on the site be retained to the satisfaction of those organisations in the proposed development precinct.

Existing facilities are used by TAFE, the University of Wollongong and the Cook School for students with serious behavioural problems,

The motion to provide in-principle, non-binding conditional support was carried unanimously although Cr Barry Collier said he thought it was “a pie in the sky proposal” and Cr Diedree Steinwall said she was “not as enthusiastic” as others.

Cr Michael Forshaw, who moved the amended motion of support, said it would be “fantastic” if Southern Expansion won the franchise.

He said the council was giving “fairly basic support”, and not “a blank cheque”.

“if they get the licence, that's when the real debate about the stadium and Barden Ridge will start,” he said.

“Creating a new sporting precinct in the shire is not an impossible project and the links between sport and education are very strong.

“This a very small step for us, but it could be a giant step for the A-League.”

Cr Forshaw said anyone who thought the site was not large enough should visit WIN Stadium in Wollongong.

Provision for parking was a major discussion point at the meeting.

Mayor Carmelo Pesce said Southern Expansion told councillors at a briefing a car park would be built underground on the site of the proposed stadium or a new multi-storey car park constructed opposite at Waratah Park.

Cr Collier said he loved the game, which he had played and coached, but “my view is this a pie in the sky proposal”.

“We are going to demolish million dollar TAFE and university buildings and a school that caters for children with severe behaviour problems? he asked rhetorically.

”This is Crown land – why haven’t they been to the state government in the first place?

“They want to go to the state government and say, ‘Council supports us’.”

Cr Collier said the council could end up having to build a multi-level car park.

“Who are they kidding when they say most spectators will come by train?” he said.

“Most people will want to drive, and where will they park?”

Cr Steinwall said she had received written assurances from Southern Expansion chief executive Chris Gardiner about three concerns raised by residents – the Loftus tramway, the traffic and parking impact and retaining the education facilities.

Mr Gardiner had said the tramway would not be affected, the educational facilities would be retained and he thought the site was big enough to build in all the parking that was needed, she said.

Cr Carol Provan said, “There are a lot of people [in the educational facilities] we have to look after, but at this stage why would we say No?”

“Why not get on the roundabout and go with it,” she said.

Cr Jack Boyd said it was “a fantastic proposal” and would mean an investment of $350 million in the shire.

The proposal involved rebuilding the education buildings and adding entertainment facilities.

“We could have more entertainment facilities beyond nightclubs and the Entertainment Centre,” he said.

Cr Boyd said another plus was there would be training academies for boys and girls at Barden Ridge.

Talented young players were now having to got to academies in places like Barcelona, he said.

The other conditions endorsed by the council were:

  • The stadium and related competition facilities being wholly located on Crown land at Rawson Avenue, Loftus.
  • All training facilities located at The Ridge Sports Complex conditional upon existing sporting and established activity groups not being disadvantaged.
  • No construction, maintenance and/or ongoing operational costs borne by council.
  • The proposal demonstrating it would appropriately address all environmental, social and traffic/traffic/parking impacts.
  • There being community support for the bid.
 
Messages
21,880
http://www.theleader.com.au/story/4...us-stadium-but-with-strings-attached/?cs=1255

Loftus stadium wins council support with extra condition that education facilities must be retained
Murray Trembath17 Oct 2017, 3:45 p.m.
r0_391_4288_2802_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg

University of Wollongong campus on the site of the proposed Loftus stadium.

Sutherland Shire Council has agreed to support Southern Expansion’s plans to build a 25,000 to 30,000 seat stadium at Loftus for its proposed A-League franchise.

However, the council, at its meeting on Monday night, attached a new condition to those previously recommended by staff.

r0_145_2100_1456_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg

Bold plan: Hong Kong-listed real estate company Jiayuan, which is bankrolling the A-League bid, has committed to spending $300 million on the stadium.

The new requirement will be that all existing education facilities on the site be retained to the satisfaction of those organisations in the proposed development precinct.

Existing facilities are used by TAFE, the University of Wollongong and the Cook School for students with serious behavioural problems,

The motion to provide in-principle, non-binding conditional support was carried unanimously although Cr Barry Collier said he thought it was “a pie in the sky proposal” and Cr Diedree Steinwall said she was “not as enthusiastic” as others.

Cr Michael Forshaw, who moved the amended motion of support, said it would be “fantastic” if Southern Expansion won the franchise.

He said the council was giving “fairly basic support”, and not “a blank cheque”.

“if they get the licence, that's when the real debate about the stadium and Barden Ridge will start,” he said.

“Creating a new sporting precinct in the shire is not an impossible project and the links between sport and education are very strong.

“This a very small step for us, but it could be a giant step for the A-League.”

Cr Forshaw said anyone who thought the site was not large enough should visit WIN Stadium in Wollongong.

Provision for parking was a major discussion point at the meeting.

Mayor Carmelo Pesce said Southern Expansion told councillors at a briefing a car park would be built underground on the site of the proposed stadium or a new multi-storey car park constructed opposite at Waratah Park.

Cr Collier said he loved the game, which he had played and coached, but “my view is this a pie in the sky proposal”.

“We are going to demolish million dollar TAFE and university buildings and a school that caters for children with severe behaviour problems? he asked rhetorically.

”This is Crown land – why haven’t they been to the state government in the first place?

“They want to go to the state government and say, ‘Council supports us’.”

Cr Collier said the council could end up having to build a multi-level car park.

“Who are they kidding when they say most spectators will come by train?” he said.

“Most people will want to drive, and where will they park?”

Cr Steinwall said she had received written assurances from Southern Expansion chief executive Chris Gardiner about three concerns raised by residents – the Loftus tramway, the traffic and parking impact and retaining the education facilities.

Mr Gardiner had said the tramway would not be affected, the educational facilities would be retained and he thought the site was big enough to build in all the parking that was needed, she said.

Cr Carol Provan said, “There are a lot of people [in the educational facilities] we have to look after, but at this stage why would we say No?”

“Why not get on the roundabout and go with it,” she said.

Cr Jack Boyd said it was “a fantastic proposal” and would mean an investment of $350 million in the shire.

The proposal involved rebuilding the education buildings and adding entertainment facilities.

“We could have more entertainment facilities beyond nightclubs and the Entertainment Centre,” he said.

Cr Boyd said another plus was there would be training academies for boys and girls at Barden Ridge.

Talented young players were now having to got to academies in places like Barcelona, he said.

The other conditions endorsed by the council were:

  • The stadium and related competition facilities being wholly located on Crown land at Rawson Avenue, Loftus.
  • All training facilities located at The Ridge Sports Complex conditional upon existing sporting and established activity groups not being disadvantaged.
  • No construction, maintenance and/or ongoing operational costs borne by council.
  • The proposal demonstrating it would appropriately address all environmental, social and traffic/traffic/parking impacts.
  • There being community support for the bid.

Economics of this seem ridiculous.

I mean I hope they can get it done, just seems very far fetched. Like a backdoor to an A-League licence and then they cancel the stadium plans once they’re in.
 

Raiderdave

First Grade
Messages
7,990
I think the number may be a bit more flexible than we think. There’s been a push back from some recently that 45k is too big, a while it’s still the likely number I get the feeling they’re at least looking at a smaller option.


I'd doubt it
the trust ARU , FFA & others would want the larger capacity & while I don't disagree an AAMI park on the site , with a roof would be awesome , they will go with 45K.

anyway we'll know tomorrow who gets done first
my tip ... ANZ & they'll start at the end of next year
 

Pommy

Coach
Messages
14,657
Bit different, the old nib stadium had a scaffold stand with no roof! Allianz isn't too bad when it's not raining and given Roosters are likely the olnly fuutre tenants do you think they are going to be twice as popular with fans attending witha newer stadium?

Where are Sydney Fc and the Waratahs moving to?
 
Messages
4,204
http://www.theleader.com.au/story/4...us-stadium-but-with-strings-attached/?cs=1255

Loftus stadium wins council support with extra condition that education facilities must be retained
Murray Trembath17 Oct 2017, 3:45 p.m.
r0_391_4288_2802_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg

University of Wollongong campus on the site of the proposed Loftus stadium.

Sutherland Shire Council has agreed to support Southern Expansion’s plans to build a 25,000 to 30,000 seat stadium at Loftus for its proposed A-League franchise.

However, the council, at its meeting on Monday night, attached a new condition to those previously recommended by staff.

r0_145_2100_1456_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg

Bold plan: Hong Kong-listed real estate company Jiayuan, which is bankrolling the A-League bid, has committed to spending $300 million on the stadium.

The new requirement will be that all existing education facilities on the site be retained to the satisfaction of those organisations in the proposed development precinct.

Existing facilities are used by TAFE, the University of Wollongong and the Cook School for students with serious behavioural problems,

The motion to provide in-principle, non-binding conditional support was carried unanimously although Cr Barry Collier said he thought it was “a pie in the sky proposal” and Cr Diedree Steinwall said she was “not as enthusiastic” as others.

Cr Michael Forshaw, who moved the amended motion of support, said it would be “fantastic” if Southern Expansion won the franchise.

He said the council was giving “fairly basic support”, and not “a blank cheque”.

“if they get the licence, that's when the real debate about the stadium and Barden Ridge will start,” he said.

“Creating a new sporting precinct in the shire is not an impossible project and the links between sport and education are very strong.

“This a very small step for us, but it could be a giant step for the A-League.”

Cr Forshaw said anyone who thought the site was not large enough should visit WIN Stadium in Wollongong.

Provision for parking was a major discussion point at the meeting.

Mayor Carmelo Pesce said Southern Expansion told councillors at a briefing a car park would be built underground on the site of the proposed stadium or a new multi-storey car park constructed opposite at Waratah Park.

Cr Collier said he loved the game, which he had played and coached, but “my view is this a pie in the sky proposal”.

“We are going to demolish million dollar TAFE and university buildings and a school that caters for children with severe behaviour problems? he asked rhetorically.

”This is Crown land – why haven’t they been to the state government in the first place?

“They want to go to the state government and say, ‘Council supports us’.”

Cr Collier said the council could end up having to build a multi-level car park.

“Who are they kidding when they say most spectators will come by train?” he said.

“Most people will want to drive, and where will they park?”

Cr Steinwall said she had received written assurances from Southern Expansion chief executive Chris Gardiner about three concerns raised by residents – the Loftus tramway, the traffic and parking impact and retaining the education facilities.

Mr Gardiner had said the tramway would not be affected, the educational facilities would be retained and he thought the site was big enough to build in all the parking that was needed, she said.

Cr Carol Provan said, “There are a lot of people [in the educational facilities] we have to look after, but at this stage why would we say No?”

“Why not get on the roundabout and go with it,” she said.

Cr Jack Boyd said it was “a fantastic proposal” and would mean an investment of $350 million in the shire.

The proposal involved rebuilding the education buildings and adding entertainment facilities.

“We could have more entertainment facilities beyond nightclubs and the Entertainment Centre,” he said.

Cr Boyd said another plus was there would be training academies for boys and girls at Barden Ridge.

Talented young players were now having to got to academies in places like Barcelona, he said.

The other conditions endorsed by the council were:

  • The stadium and related competition facilities being wholly located on Crown land at Rawson Avenue, Loftus.
  • All training facilities located at The Ridge Sports Complex conditional upon existing sporting and established activity groups not being disadvantaged.
  • No construction, maintenance and/or ongoing operational costs borne by council.
  • The proposal demonstrating it would appropriately address all environmental, social and traffic/traffic/parking impacts.
  • There being community support for the bid.

This would actually be a fantastic site for Dragons and Sharks games but we already have too many home grounds and are too invested in that model.

If this was built in 1999 I could see 24 NRL games a season in this spot.

Anywho... this won't be built and f**k Southern Expansion
 

siv

First Grade
Messages
6,752
Economics of this seem ridiculous.

I mean I hope they can get it done, just seems very far fetched. Like a backdoor to an A-League licence and then they cancel the stadium plans once they’re in.

Allows the developer to full control of Shark Park former council land
 

King Ben

Juniors
Messages
1,182
This would actually be a fantastic site for Dragons and Sharks games but we already have too many home grounds and are too invested in that model.

If this was built in 1999 I could see 24 NRL games a season in this spot.

Anywho... this won't be built and f**k Southern Expansion

Surely there's a much easier solution here. The Expansion mob pay for Shark Park to be upgraded / rebuilt as an amazing stadium, Sharks let the team play rent-free and the Expansion mob take a cut of ticket sales.
 
Last edited:

Latest posts

Top