The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[beave]

This really is a new f**king low for the AFL. I know they are corrupt as f**k but this takes the cake for mine. Without being chicken little, I can see our great game getting hosed again by these merkins.

 

[Diesel]

Arrogant
F*cking
Losers

 

[big hit!]

increase the capacity at the showgrounds to 30-35k and the scg will eventually have some works done on the driver avenue stands too which may bump that up to 50k. that's two very good stadiums and enough for AFL in Sydney. just don't f**k up any new major venue on the stadium australia site. a 70k rectangular arena, and a 35k new SFS with the 35k parra and there you have your 5 major stadia.

 

[herbert henry1908]

increase the capacity at the showgrounds to 30-35k and the scg will eventually have some works done on the driver avenue stands too which may bump that up to 50k. that's two very good stadiums and enough for AFL in Sydney. just don't f**k up any new major venue on the stadium australia site. a 70k rectangular arena, and a 35k new SFS with the 35k and there you have your 5 major stadia.

Spotless will eventually get an upgrade when the BBL expands further. They’re implementing a full home and away season within a few years, the thunder will be the major tenant then. Hell they probably will be this year with just 5 Home games.

But the SCG & Spotless should sit this round of upgrades out, should be rectangular grounds only.

 

[El Diablo]

Spotless is only 5 years f**king old

f**k upgrading it at the expense of much older dilapidated stadiums

Brookevale is a dogs breakfast

 

[Yosemite Sam]

Plenty type Olympic oval grounds, like Roma F/c famous club in Serie A
Tens to hundred of these are around the world.

There is a huge difference between ovals like these and CRICKET ovals. They are not even close in comparison.

For the record the Emirates Stadium is an oval, but the entire stadium would literally fit inside the dimensions of the MCG playing surface.

 

[GAZF]

They’re not going to get ANZ kept as an oval, it’s a negotiating position.

They ask for that hoping the govt give them upgrades to the SCG & spotless as a runners up prize.

Spotless is possible but I have doubts the govt will give them SCG upgrades. Doing both Allianz & the SCG would play out really poorly for their electoral prospects.

So they could sneak a cheeky $150m for an upgrade to spotless (not that it’s needed)

This needed reiterating. McLachlan is very good at lobbying governments for stadium funding and he'd know that the AFL has no say in the configuration of ANZ. It's all for future upgrading of their current stadia and possibly upgrades to training facilities in the near future.

 

[CC_Roosters]

they already are http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...m/news-story/4db985d5b79f8f19a38cb9a7b187d10e

Don't like the wandering tenancy idea, it just waters down the support long term imo. The only move we should be making is a long term agreement with the central coast to play 4 games at Gosford with thr balance staying at Moore park

 

[big hit!]

Spotless will eventually get an upgrade when the BBL expands further. They’re implementing a full home and away season within a few years, the thunder will be the major tenant then. Hell they probably will be this year with just 5 Home games.

But the SCG & Spotless should sit this round of upgrades out, should be rectangular grounds only.

i'm not saying they need to be ungraded now, just that should be the thought behind those two venues down the track

 

[big hit!]

Spotless is only 5 years f**king old

f**k upgrading it at the expense of much older dilapidated stadiums

Brookevale is a dogs breakfast

they open up the gates and you can walk inside brookvale daily. it's no better than a henson park or pratten park.

end of the day, it sits in a safe electoral seat in suburbia and only one club uses it. they will continue to dream

 

[hutch]

increase the capacity at the showgrounds to 30-35k and the scg will eventually have some works done on the driver avenue stands too which may bump that up to 50k. that's two very good stadiums and enough for AFL in Sydney. just don't f**k up any new major venue on the stadium australia site. a 70k rectangular arena, and a 35k new SFS with the 35k parra and there you have your 5 major stadia.

Spotless and the scg should not have one cent spent on them. They have already had millions of dollars in upgrades over the last few years. The $1.6 billion should be spent on anz, Allianz and NRL training centres or upgrades to Sydney rugby league stadiums.

 

[JonnoM]

14 years ago in 2003,the Sydney Olympic Stadium was reconfigured to allow retractable seating for AFL.This change is design was hijacked by the AFL to give their sport an outlet to allow atttendances over 65,000 in Sydney

Since 2003,Attendances over 65,000 at Sydney Olympic/ANZ Stadium.

NRL = 36 Attendances over 65,000
Rugby Union = 17 Attendances over 65,000
Football(Soccer) = 11 Attendances over 65,000
AFL = 2 Attendances over 65,000 (back in 2003 only)


Year Crowd Code Match
2017 79,722 Rugby League NRL Grand Final
2017 83,221 Football WSW v Arsenal
2017 82,259 Rugby League State of Origin: NSW v QLD
2017 80,432 Football Syd v Arsenal
2017 72,892 Football Syd v Liverpool
2016 83,625 Rugby League NRL Grand Final
2016 80,251 Rugby League State of Origin: NSW v QLD
2016 65,238 Rugby Union Wallabies v New Zealand
2015 83,598 Football Syd vs Chelsea
2015 82,758 Rugby League NRL Grand Final
2015 80,122 Rugby League State of Origin: NSW v QLD
2015 76,385 Football Aus vs South Korea
2015 73,824 Rugby Union Wallabies v New Zealand
2015 71,549 Football Syd vs Tottenham
2014 83,833 Rugby League NRL Grand Final
2014 83,421 Rugby League State of Origin: NSW v QLD
2014 68,627 Rugby Union Wallabies v New Zealand
2013 83,813 Rugby League State of Origin: NSW v QLD
2013 83,702 Rugby Union Wallabies v British & Irish Lions
2013 83,127 Football A-League All Stars v Manchester United
2013 81,491 Rugby League NRL Grand Final
2013 80,523 Football Aus vs Iraq
2013 80,380 Rugby League State of Origin: NSW v QLD
2013 68,765 Rugby Union Wallabies v New Zealand
2012 83,110 Rugby League State of Origin: NSW v QLD
2012 82,976 Rugby League NRL Grand Final
2012 76,877 Rugby Union Wallabies v New Zealand
2012 70,354 Rugby League NRL Prelim Final
2011 81,988 Rugby League NRL Grand Final
2011 81,965 Rugby League State of Origin: NSW v QLD
2010 82,334 Rugby League NRL Grand Final
2010 71,212 Rugby League State of Origin: NSW v QLD
2010 70,288 Rugby Union Wallabies v New Zealand
2010 68,753 Rugby League State of Origin: NSW v QLD
2009 82,538 Rugby League NRL Grand Final
2009 80,459 Rugby League State of Origin: NSW v QLD
2009 80,228 Rugby Union Wallabies v New Zealand
2009 74,549 Rugby League NRL Prelim Final
2009 70,054 Football Aus vs China
2008 80,388 Rugby League NRL Grand Final
2008 78,944 Rugby Union Wallabies v New Zealand
2008 78,751 Rugby League State of Origin: NSW v QLD
2008 67,620 Rugby League State of Origin: NSW v QLD
2007 81,392 Rugby League NRL Grand Final
2007 80,295 Football Syd vs LA Galaxy
2007 76,924 Rugby League State of Origin: NSW v QLD
2006 79,609 Rugby League NRL Grand Final
2006 72,773 Rugby League State of Origin: NSW v QLD
2005 82,698 Football WCQ: Socceroos v Uruguay
2005 82,453 Rugby League NRL Grand Final
2005 82,389 Rugby League State of Origin: NSW v QLD
2005 82,309 Rugby Union Wallabies v New Zealand
2004 83,418 Rugby Union Wallabies v New Zealand
2004 82,487 Rugby League State of Origin: NSW v QLD
2004 82,127 Rugby League NRL Grand Final
2004 68,344 Rugby League State of Origin: NSW v QLD
2003 82,957 Rugby Union RWC: Final - AUS v ENG
2003 82,444 Rugby Union RWC: Semi Final 1
2003 82,346 Rugby Union RWC France vs England
2003 82,096 Rugby Union Wallabies v New Zealand
2003 81,350 Rugby Union RWC Aus vs Arg
2003 81,166 Rugby League NRL Grand Final
2003 80,012 Rugby Union RWC NZ vs Wales
2003 79,132 Rugby League State of Origin: NSW v QLD
2003 78,974 Rugby Union RWC Fra vs Sco
2003 72,393 AFL Syd vs Coll
2003 71,019 AFL Syd vs Bris

 

[big hit!]

Spotless and the scg should not have one cent spent on them. They have already had millions of dollars in upgrades over the last few years. The $1.6 billion should be spent on anz, Allianz and NRL training centres or upgrades to Sydney rugby league stadiums.

don't let your bias against AFL, cricket or both cloud logic. the SCG & showgrounds are used all year round. they'll get even more use once the BBL season expands. they'll be looked after if required. if that means expanding showgrounds capacity - particularly if Olympic stadium is rectangular - then it will happen.

you make it sound like there will be something left over for clubs after olympic stadium and SFS are done in this round. i guarantee there won't be after every merkin has had his nose in the trough. public construction works are a f**king goldmine for abuse.

 

[Captain Apollo]

don't let your bias against AFL, cricket or both cloud logic. the SCG & showgrounds are used all year round. they'll get even more use once the BBL season expands. they'll be looked after if required. if that means expanding showgrounds capacity - particularly if Olympic stadium is rectangular - then it will happen.

you make it sound like there will be something left over for clubs after olympic stadium and SFS are done in this round. i guarantee there won't be after every merkin has had his nose in the trough. public construction works are a f**king goldmine for abuse.

Thing is you miss the point. Spotless Stadium is 5 years old. 5 years? How can it be in need of upgrades so soon, or was the design so botched in the first place but no one noticed it for 4 years?

As to the SCG, it has had more funds than every other stadium in Sydney spent on it over the last 5 years whilst the SFS has had little, and ANZ none. As such those stadiums do deserve priority over the others, why should they yet again take a back seat just to satisfy the AFL and the SCG Trust?

 

[big hit!]

Thing is you miss the point. Spotless Stadium is 5 years old. 5 years? How can it be in need of up[grades so soon, or was the design so botched in the first place but no one noticed it for 4 years?

AS to the SCG, it has mad more fund than every other stadium in Sydney spent on it over the last5 years whilst the SFS has had little, and ANZ none. As such those stadiums do deserve priority over the others, why should they yet again take a back seat just to satisfy the AFL and the SCG Trust?

i'm not advocating the ovals get funding priority over the olympic stadium and SFS.

 

[hutch]

don't let your bias against AFL, cricket or both cloud logic. the SCG & showgrounds are used all year round. they'll get even more use once the BBL season expands. they'll be looked after if required. if that means expanding showgrounds capacity - particularly if Olympic stadium is rectangular - then it will happen.

you make it sound like there will be something left over for clubs after olympic stadium and SFS are done in this round. i guarantee there won't be after every merkin has had his nose in the trough. public construction works are a f**king goldmine for abuse.

The scg and spotless HAVE been upgraded recently. That’s the point I’m making. They received their millions. There are teams from Sydney’s most popular sport playing in 3rd world conditions. They should be a priority as well.

 

[magpie_man]

Spotless will eventually get an upgrade when the BBL expands further. They’re implementing a full home and away season within a few years, the thunder will be the major tenant then. Hell they probably will be this year with just 5 Home games.

But the SCG & Spotless should sit this round of upgrades out, should be rectangular grounds only.

The Big Bash as it stands is right in the Christmas School Holidays sweet spot and the crowds will likely drop if/when a full home and away season is implemented.

 

[siv]

Is there a deadline for them to announce their decision on this, or can it drag on indefinitely?

They can always cancel funding and redirect it to hospitals

Just in time for next election

 

[big hit!]

The scg and spotless HAVE been upgraded recently. That’s the point I’m making. They received their millions. There are teams from Sydney’s most popular sport playing in 3rd world conditions. They should be a priority as well.

it's a bit more difficult for a government to justify handing over funds for single venues and traininig facilities for each individual team when there are 9 of them.

 

[herbert henry1908]

The Big Bash as it stands is right in the Christmas School Holidays sweet spot and the crowds will likely drop if/when a full home and away season is implemented.

Agree they won’t be as high as January when it expands into February, but it’ll still beat the GWS easily. Will probably overtake them as the major tenant this year, that’s with only 5 Home games.

5 home games for the thunder could pull 110k - 120k

8 home games at Spotless this year for GWS pulled about 100k (likely inflated too)