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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

yadamisha

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But the ground they own is a noose around there neck. It must run at a loss every game given the capacity and lack of corporate spots.

Sharks will end up just borderline broke, like they have been for most of there history.
only with small crowds, otherwise they do make a profit.
 

Dogs Of War

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only with small crowds, otherwise they do make a profit.
Here is one comparision. And this is while your doing well. What happens if you have a slump?
  • Gameday Revenue:
    A comparison with the Brisbane Broncos highlights a potential area of concern for the Sharks. The Broncos generated $11.9 million from gameday revenue, while Cronulla's gameday revenue was only $2.7 million. This difference is partially attributed to the capacity of their respective stadiums (Broncos at Suncorp, capacity 52,500, and Sharks at Endeavour Field, capacity 12,000) and their average home crowds.


 

Wb1234

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Here is one comparision. And this is while your doing well. What happens if you have a slump?
  • Gameday Revenue:
    A comparison with the Brisbane Broncos highlights a potential area of concern for the Sharks. The Broncos generated $11.9 million from gameday revenue, while Cronulla's gameday revenue was only $2.7 million. This difference is partially attributed to the capacity of their respective stadiums (Broncos at Suncorp, capacity 52,500, and Sharks at Endeavour Field, capacity 12,000) and their average home crowds.


If you’re going to use the broncos as a benchmark then no other nrl club is going to compare are they

In a salary capped league where there’s not a lot of cheating clubs just have to spend the full salary cap which all do

And there’s zero correlation between football club spend and premierships anyway

Cronulla have literally won a comp more recently than the broncos
 

Saint Doc

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There was talk of a Loftus Stadium at some point. It’s not a bad location in terms of access for St George, Shire and Wollongong based fans as a shared venue. Problem is it’s suburban and lifeless.
 

Perth Red

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If you’re going to use the broncos as a benchmark then no other nrl club is going to compare are they

In a salary capped league where there’s not a lot of cheating clubs just have to spend the full salary cap which all do

And there’s zero correlation between football club spend and premierships anyway

Cronulla have literally won a comp more recently than the broncos
By cheating the cap, oh no that’s right that was the middle year they weren’t cheating lol
 

Dark Corner

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There was talk of a Loftus Stadium at some point. It’s not a bad location in terms of access for St George, Shire and Wollongong based fans as a shared venue. Problem is it’s suburban and lifeless.
Why does Australia like building stadiums then leaving empty, shared and lifeless in some of the cases like Concord, Central Coast, Kogarah and Win ?
 

Wb1234

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The mystery over the shocking wet weather playing surface at Allianz Stadium has finally been solved after a month-long investigation by engineers and global turf experts.

Comprehensive tests on the grass and drainage uncovered soil and sand contamination issues from when the ground surface was first laid four years ago while the stadium was still under construction.

A repair job to replace the entire playing surface base and grass is expected to cost $6 million, although building insurance is likely to cover the expense rather than taxpayers.

The stadium has its heaviest load this weekend with the Roosters v Bulldogs, Rabbitohs v Eels, Wests Tigers v Manly and St George Illawarra v the Wests Tigers in the NRLW.

The surface at the $870 million venue will be ripped up and removed after the Wallabies v Argentina Test match on September 13 and the stadium closed down for 10 weeks.

The report found that water on the ground during heavy downpours was draining at only 40 millimetres per hour — just a tenth of the amount that it should be.

Acceptable drainage at major sporting venues is normally between 300 and 600 millimetres per hour.

The turf experts found the issue at Allianz was caused by having nine per cent of clay in the earth layer below the stadium turf.

The maximum level — according to turf experts — should be two per cent; hence the draining blockage and water not getting out through the underground pipes.

“The review further found that when the original sand was purchased and stockpiled it was tested using a method that was not aligned with the project brief,” said a government source.

NSW Minister for Sport Steve Kamper and Venues NSW chairman David Gallop were handed the report last week.

Both Venues NSW and the NSW Government have been clear from the start that the quality of the surface has not been up to our standards,” Mr Kamper said. “I am glad that we now have a path forward to rectify this matter.

“I want to thank the groundskeepers and Venues team who have been working tirelessly to make this ground workable, under what we now know, were impossible conditions.”

Gallop and his senior stadium staff had been under pressure for weeks to fix the problem.

“Venues NSW remains committed to delivering world-class facilities and experiences for athletes, fans, and event partners,” he said.

“The remediation works will ensure Allianz Stadium continues to meet the highest standards of performance and safety.”

The stadium will be reopened for three concerts — Kendrick Lamar on December 10/11 and Dom Dolla on December 20.

Sydney FC will return in mid-January for A League games.

Their first eight matches of the season have been moved to other venues.
 

Dogs Of War

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If you’re going to use the broncos as a benchmark then no other nrl club is going to compare are they

In a salary capped league where there’s not a lot of cheating clubs just have to spend the full salary cap which all do

And there’s zero correlation between football club spend and premierships anyway

Cronulla have literally won a comp more recently than the broncos

You might say there is zero correlation. But good goverance of a club lends itself to success.

Only Tigers are ranked below your club, and if the Tigers ever turned the corner, they would jump well above your club as even with your clubs current success, it's struggling off the field and there is no way it's going to get better.


As other clubs build better facilities for players to improve, Sharks will need to rely on old school stuff, which might sound nice, but you know that the Sharks will have some lean years, and at that points there will be some serious struggles.

It's not like it's the first time the Sharks have been on there arse.

1983 they will penciled in along with West Magpies and Newtown, but he NSWRL provided the Sharks a loan, while denying the Magpies and Newtown.

1990 they then hit financial issues again, but some success on the field (when game day revenue was king) got you guys out of it, and also being one of the first clubs to join Super League cause they guaranteed your finances.

Took a little break (though it was always brewing the in background) finances became a problem again in 2009 and really the development was seen as the saviour. But it was for the short term, but we are seeing the club go down the drain again. And this time it's different as the game is getting larger crowds than ever before, except your guys are limited to 14k, and stuff all corporate support.

Hopefully in about 10 years we see your guys move to Adelaide.
 

NWQRabbit

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The blues are set to play some super rugby matches at mt smart from next year.
Is this relective of the smaller crowds at SR these days or more them realising the shortcomings of eden park and trying to re-engage the fanbase by playing at a better venue for rectangular sports?

More importantly, if it is successful and they end up playing the majority of games at mt smart, then the case for an upgrade or major redevelopment is much brighter when you consider the utilisation it currently has between the wahs strong crowds and the auckland soccer crowds being good too.
 

mongoose

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You might say there is zero correlation. But good goverance of a club lends itself to success.

Only Tigers are ranked below your club, and if the Tigers ever turned the corner, they would jump well above your club as even with your clubs current success, it's struggling off the field and there is no way it's going to get better.


As other clubs build better facilities for players to improve, Sharks will need to rely on old school stuff, which might sound nice, but you know that the Sharks will have some lean years, and at that points there will be some serious struggles.

It's not like it's the first time the Sharks have been on there arse.

1983 they will penciled in along with West Magpies and Newtown, but he NSWRL provided the Sharks a loan, while denying the Magpies and Newtown.

1990 they then hit financial issues again, but some success on the field (when game day revenue was king) got you guys out of it, and also being one of the first clubs to join Super League cause they guaranteed your finances.

Took a little break (though it was always brewing the in background) finances became a problem again in 2009 and really the development was seen as the saviour. But it was for the short term, but we are seeing the club go down the drain again. And this time it's different as the game is getting larger crowds than ever before, except your guys are limited to 14k, and stuff all corporate support.

Hopefully in about 10 years we see your guys move to Adelaide.
The Sharks are wb's club? i thought he just supported whichever club wins the premiership that year...
 

Vlad59

First Grade
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You might say there is zero correlation. But good goverance of a club lends itself to success.

Only Tigers are ranked below your club, and if the Tigers ever turned the corner, they would jump well above your club as even with your clubs current success, it's struggling off the field and there is no way it's going to get better.


As other clubs build better facilities for players to improve, Sharks will need to rely on old school stuff, which might sound nice, but you know that the Sharks will have some lean years, and at that points there will be some serious struggles.

It's not like it's the first time the Sharks have been on there arse.

1983 they will penciled in along with West Magpies and Newtown, but he NSWRL provided the Sharks a loan, while denying the Magpies and Newtown.

1990 they then hit financial issues again, but some success on the field (when game day revenue was king) got you guys out of it, and also being one of the first clubs to join Super League cause they guaranteed your finances.

Took a little break (though it was always brewing the in background) finances became a problem again in 2009 and really the development was seen as the saviour. But it was for the short term, but we are seeing the club go down the drain again. And this time it's different as the game is getting larger crowds than ever before, except your guys are limited to 14k, and stuff all corporate support.

Hopefully in about 10 years we see your guys move to Adelaide.
You want Souths to move to Adelaide?
You seriously think Adelaide would be ready for a club in ten years?
That’s a pretty poor post.
 
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You might say there is zero correlation. But good goverance of a club lends itself to success.

Only Tigers are ranked below your club, and if the Tigers ever turned the corner, they would jump well above your club as even with your clubs current success, it's struggling off the field and there is no way it's going to get better.


As other clubs build better facilities for players to improve, Sharks will need to rely on old school stuff, which might sound nice, but you know that the Sharks will have some lean years, and at that points there will be some serious struggles.

It's not like it's the first time the Sharks have been on there arse.

1983 they will penciled in along with West Magpies and Newtown, but he NSWRL provided the Sharks a loan, while denying the Magpies and Newtown.

1990 they then hit financial issues again, but some success on the field (when game day revenue was king) got you guys out of it, and also being one of the first clubs to join Super League cause they guaranteed your finances.

Took a little break (though it was always brewing the in background) finances became a problem again in 2009 and really the development was seen as the saviour. But it was for the short term, but we are seeing the club go down the drain again. And this time it's different as the game is getting larger crowds than ever before, except your guys are limited to 14k, and stuff all corporate support.

Hopefully in about 10 years we see your guys move to Adelaide.
nonsense post
 

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