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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

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im a year out according to this article

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-...olympic-stadium-is-being-knocked-down/9187608

2022 for ANZ's completion
wether that be for the start of that season or during it
it will defs be hosting the GF in 2022

so the GF schedule should be
2020 SCG
2021 Allianz
2022 ANZ

I’ve seen another article that says 2022 will be at Allianz. It’s all up in the air.

I wouldn’t bank on 2022 at ANZ.

New Perth stadium broke ground in December 2014, it’ll host its first event in January 2018.
 

Raiderdave

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If it takes 3 years and 2 months you can’t host the 2022 grand final there.

Its also not just a build, it’ll take months for them just to clear the site. It’s a huge job, made slower by the fact many things will be recycled.

if it doesn't , & it may not
then you can : )

the goal will be having it opened for the 2022 GF
they will put extra work & resources into making sure that happens
 

El Diablo

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The politics in this is just crazy...

With a $billion to play with, they could put boutique stadiums in 4 different suburbs and porkbarrel their way to another election win.

Instead, theyre putting it all into Moore park just to please the Trust...
wrong
 

El Diablo

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https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...k=3a216f3b32771475bff28f8027bf8a69-1511522455

NRL grand final battle: Queensland bid helped seal $2b deal

Anna Caldwell, The Daily Telegraph
in 2 hours

AN audacious bid by Queensland to steal the NRL grand final was one of the last clinchers that drove the state government’s $2 billion stadium knockdown-rebuild plans.

The Saturday Telegraph can reveal Queensland threw about $10 million at the NRL in an attempt to rip the 2020 grand final out of Sydney and had made a compelling bid.

It is understood the government feared that losing one grand final would lead to more, with possibly one in three or one in five grand finals played in other states.

Because of this, Sports Minister Stuart Ayres would not agree to funding the new stadiums without locking up grand finals for Sydney, securing a historic 25-year deal for the NRL’s flagship game to be held in the Harbour City.

The state government yesterday denied suggestions there was limited economic benefit in the $2 billion plan to raze and rebuild ANZ and Allianz stadiums, with Premier Gladys Berejiklian and Mr Ayres arguing they had sound economic modelling.

The models includes data from Destination NSW showing 500 events in the state over six years generated $3 billion in visitor expenditure.

Other government data shows Allianz and ANZ generate $1 billion a year in economic flow-on effects.

Mr Ayres told The Telegraph the stadiums would lure key events — international concerts and sport — to the city over the next decade.

He said if the rebuild did not go ahead, the city would be at risk of losing lucrative attractions such as matches by English Premier League football teams, the British and Irish Lions tour in the middle of 2025 and key matches in the Women’s World Cup in 2023.

“Sydney’s ability to hold the best events was going to be compromised,” he said. “Sydney needed to position itself as the events and sporting centre for the Asia-Pacific and I believe that’s what we’ve done.”

Ms Berejiklian said: “This will allow us to bid for some of those global events that previously we could not.”

Under the plan the stadiums will be revamped with steeper seating, creating a colosseum-style wall of spectators.

This paper revealed yesterday Mr Ayres secured a deal for Sydney to host the 2020 grand final at the SCG as well as locking in another 25 years of grand finals. The big game in 2021 and 2022 will be at Allianz stadium, before returning to ANZ for 2023 to 2044.

“We wanted to make sure there would be the most valuable piece of content and the NRL grand final is right up there in terms of contested content,” Mr Ayres said.
 

horrie hastings

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lol
for a change ??
you idiot
theres been about 4 NRL GF's that haven't sold out of the 18 played at Homebush
2000.. 94,220 out of a capacity of 110,000
2006.. 79,679 out of a capacity of 84,000
2008.. 80,480 out of a capacity of 84,000
2017 .. 79,722 out of a capacity of 84,000

& with the exception of 2000 & possibly this years
one could argue every available ticket was sold & its stadium members who didn't turn up[/QUOT

The ground capacity for the 2000 grand final was not 110,000, one end was out of action because of construction for the area for the Olympic flame, 2000 May have not sold out but it was only just short off what the ground capacity was at the time.
 
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Actually, Stage two is the section between Camellia and Olympic Park and Strathfield.
We're talking about the Parramatta Light Rail here right?

I thought we were talking the Metro line?

Light rail is a nice addition to Olympic park, but the real winner will be the metro line due some time after 2025. It’s going to run from Parramatta to the CBD via Olympic Park.
 

Vee

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You could have something to eat before you go or take a healthy option to eat.
I do
I’ve never died from doing it.
More’s the pity.
I had read somewhere that the ANZ Stadium redovelopment was going to happen after the gf in 2019. I could be wrong. What I also noticed was that the Nrl has accepted the gov funding on the proviso that the builds happen on time. Any delay on Anz and they should walk.
Seriously though, calm down on the SCG stuff. It’s one match, 95% of people watch it on TV.
With seating for only 45k - member, sponsors and assorted extras, 100% will be watching this on TV.
 

El Diablo

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http://www.smh.com.au/sport/sydney-...-sporting-infrastructure-20171124-gzsaxi.html

Sydney stadiums saga: City risks falling behind on sporting infrastructure
The rectangular football codes have not had a major redevelopment in Sydney since 1987, when Allianz Stadium was built.

In that time, Melbourne has developed a city-centre sporting infrastructure that caters for all codes, comprising the 52,000-seat Etihad Stadium, the rectangular 30,000-seat AAMI Park and the redeveloped 100,000-seat MCG, providing facilities that are arguably the best in the world and contribute millions in revenue to the city and the state.

Sydney needs to keep up or risk losing its competitiveness with both the Victorian capital, and Perth, as a city capable of attracting international events, such as the 2023 women's soccer world cup, for which Australia is bidding, which will need large, modern stadia to host its bigger games.

You only have to look to the Victorian capital to see the merit in following the lead of most Western cities in having at least one world-class rectangular stadium close to the CBD. In Sydney, that will mean a modern stadium at Moore Park that takes advantage of the existing infrastructure, and the new light rail system, to service the city's east, north, south and inner west, particularly its rugby union fraternity. But clearly that is not enough for a city of Sydney's size and there is also a desperate need for a large, revamped rectangular super-stadium in the city's west.

The timetable for redevelopment, however, is cause for concern, with the NSW government deciding to send the cement mixers to Moore Park first, ahead of Homebush Bay. That could have serious downside for those living in the western suburbs, particularly rugby league lovers.

Should the incumbent NSW government be replaced at the next election by Labor, league fans will need to pray Luke Foley does not panic at the inevitable calls to can the Homebush Bay redevelopment and spend the cash instead on schools and hospitals. Such a move would leave Sydney with only two modern rectangular stadiums, which would be bad news for both rugby codes as well as soccer. Under that scenario, the stadium at Parramatta, which will be ready for the 2020 rugby league season, and a new 45-000 seat stadium at Moore Park would be the only modern venues suitable for the three rectangular-field football codes.

Not only would that hinder Sydney's ability to attract major international sporting events, it would also adversely affect the city's domestic competitions. Future rugby league Origin matches, and grand finals would be restricted to the inner city, being played at the SCG and the new Allianz Stadium, denying fans of the code in the west easy access to the big games.

The pitch at ANZ Stadium would stay elliptical-shaped, making it suitable for AFL, thus inviting that code to advance its plans to conquer Sydney's west.

The incumbent Liberal government is obviously gambling that should Labor win the next election it will not cancel the redevelopment for fear of alienating Sydney's west. However, should state Labor follow the example of federal Labor, which has become effectively a servant of the AFL, then the 18-a-side code will gain further benefits on top of a redeveloped SCG and the boutique Spotless Stadium at Homebush Bay, with its sights on the biggest prize of all, a renovated ANZ Stadium suitable for AFL.Tony Shepherd is chair of both the GWS Giants and the SCG and Football Stadium Trust. He has already won a major victory by convincing the NSW government and its politically under-siege sports minister Stuart Ayers to begin work on Allianz Stadium first.

If a new Labor government did shelve the ANZ Stadium redevelopment, Shepherd would have won an even bigger second victory.
 

Raiderdave

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The ground capacity for the 2000 grand final was not 110,000, one end was out of action because of construction for the area for the Olympic flame, 2000 May have not sold out but it was only just short off what the ground capacity was at the time.
I was there
& if one end was out of action , they had an awful lot of people sitting in it LOL
 
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There’s definitely a concern that Foley could cancel the ANZ development, hopefully the govt are smart enough to get the contract signed before the election. That said Foley would risk a backlash from the NRL and the grand final agreement would be null and void. If he lost the GF he’d look pretty foolish. I don’t think we’d see Sydney lose the GF on a permanent basis but 1 in 3 years could happen.
 

siv

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I thought we were talking the Metro line?

Light rail is a nice addition to Olympic park, but the real winner will be the metro line due some time after 2025. It’s going to run from Parramatta to the CBD via Olympic Park.

Which train stop do regional supporters from the Central Coast/Newcastle change at to hop the the Metro ?
 

Raiderdave

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Wasn’t completely out of action but a significant amount of it was.

it wasn't a significant amount
the night Cathy Freeman won her medal there was 112, 500 people in the ground
there may have been a few thousand or so seats out of action around the Olympic Flame at the Northern end of the ground for the NRL GF , but it still had room for 110,000 people on that day.
there was minimal disruption to the capacity of the venue.
 
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it wasn't a significant amount
the night Cathy Freeman won her medal there was 112, 500 people in the ground
there may have been a few thousand or so seats out of action around the Olympic Flame at the Northern end of the ground for the NRL GF , but it still had room for 110,000 people on that day.
there was minimal disruption to the capacity of the venue.

It wasn’t the flame that was the problem, there was a huge platform area that was built for the opening ceremony and then removed when the altheltics was on.

The flame rail itself only took up a smaller part.

You can see it at several points in this video

 
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