The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[adamkungl]

Anyway I can't see the point demolishing a stadium built 19 yrs ago, what a waste of money.

The waste of money was doing a shit job on it in the first place. At some point it has to be rectified.

Sydney has the worst major event facilities in any Australian city of note, and even worse than nothing cities like Adelaide.

 

[adamkungl]

$2 Billion is a drop in the bucket of NSW funds.

They spend far and away more on schools and hospitals already.

Exactly.

As for local/community sports facilities, that's the domain of local councils and interested parties (for example the NRL and its clubs).
The state government shouldn't be spending money on grounds who have NRL clubs as the only regular tenant. It should be spending money on showpiece stadiums that bring tourists and major sponsors into NSW.

 

[morley101]

Is there a petition to build these stadiums ?

 

[El Diablo]

The following is from the ABC news website -

you mean AFL news website

 

[herbert henry1908]

Anyway I can't see the point demolishing a stadium built 19 yrs ago, what a waste of money.

The age isn’t the issue.

It’s poorly designed for its purpose, this is a chance to correct that.

Australia should have at least one world class rectangular stadium. And by world class I mean capable of hosting the biggest events.

Currently this country has one good rectangular stadium capable of hosting decent size events, but not the biggest.

We have 3 rectangular codes and our stadiums are dominated by ovals, which not a huge amount of the world uses.

 

[herbert henry1908]

The following is from the ABC news website -

The biggest part of the problem is the govt is hopeless at conveying a message.

You could sell these stadiums if you got on the front foot and explained it properly.

 

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Watch NSW f**k this up yet again.

The only reason it's costing so much now is because they've been allowed to wither on the vine for years instead of being proactive and fixing them. The longer they wait the more it's going to cost. Or in ten years time when the new stadiums would have been 5 years old we will be having the same whingers complaining about stadiums that are 30 years old needing to be modernised. It's such an infuriatingly simple argument, "it's a waste of money, schools and hospitals need the money, not sports stadiums", like it's a trade off between the two? During the same period it takes to build these stadiums for 2bn, ten times that will be spent on schools & hospitals.

 

[El Diablo]

if Foley's dumb arse Labor mates had made it rectangular after the Olympics it probably wouldn't need an upgrade

instead they were too busy sucking Demetriou's dick and f**ked it up by making it multi purpose just so the AFL could play one game there every few years

 

[Generalzod]

Is it up to governments to build Stadia??, give it to the private sector.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Is it up to governments to build Stadia??, give it to the private sector.

They aren’t directly profitable enough.

But they are decent economic drivers if they are used enough.

 

[herbert henry1908]

if Foley's dumb arse Labor mates had made it rectangular after the Olympics it probably wouldn't need an upgrade

instead they were too busy sucking Demetriou's dick and f**ked it up by making it multi purpose just so the AFL could play one game there every few years

This is basically what it comes down to.

The decision to keep it an Oval post Olympics was an absolute disaster.

 

[adamkungl]

Is it up to governments to build Stadia??, give it to the private sector.

If the stadiums are of significant benefit to the economy, then I don't see the problem.
These 2 stadiums will provide a big boost to NSW's capability to attract and retain internationally significant events across sport, music and others, bringing in tourism, corporate sponsors, and prestige.

Sydney is in a big lull at the moment in terms of being seen as a fun, world class city.

 

[El Diablo]

Is it up to governments to build Stadia??, give it to the private sector.

which stadium in Aus hasn't been built by Government?

 

[Mr Angry]

Is it up to governments to build Stadia??, give it to the private sector.

Huh?

Lang Park, Robina, Townsville
MCG, Melbourne Rectangular
Perth's New stadium
Adelaide Oval

All government built, owned and run.

Hell even Brooky, Kogarah etc are council properties.

So in this country, yes the government (All levels) has vested interests in building entertainment complexes for their constituents. Some would argue, the government has no place building hospitals or schools.

VFL bought the State government built stadium and Cronulla own Shark Park, even then get help from the government for upgrades.

Again 2 billion is a very small amount of the yearly spend in NSW. Spread that 2 billion over a 20 year period, and it is a small investment.

 

[El Diablo]

This is basically what it comes down to.

The decision to keep it an Oval post Olympics was an absolute disaster.

and then then Labor built another oval shaped stadium next door after initially being told no because they could use stadium Aus

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...k=126cabc9ec661a88d67c21bbf7ab6111-1512365453

The deal is off

By Dean Ritchie, DailyTelegraph
November 24, 2009 11:00pm

BUCKLING under a backlash from an angry rugby league community, NSW Premier Nathan Rees has ditched a $45 million plan to help the AFL's western Sydney franchise build a new home ground.
The Daily Telegraph yesterday revealed an audacious AFL request for the money from the Rees Government - and an additional $25 million from the Federal Government - to redevelop the Sydney Showground at Homebush Bay.

NRL clubs were furious that $70 million would go towards the showground's revamp despite the venue being just 300m from the all-purpose $620 million ANZ Stadium.

After budgeting for crowds of 15,000, GWS rejected an offer to play exclusively at ANZ Stadium, fearing 65,000 empty seats may embarrass the code on national television. After coming under fire from rugby league fans, bloggers and officials, Premier Rees crash-tackled the plan.

"We're not about to give that sort of money to the AFL for a stadium next to an existing stadium," he said. "I'd much rather spend the money on hospitals and schools.

"They have approached us for a contribution to a reconfiguration of the ground next to ANZ Stadium and we've indicated consistently that's not a priority for us."

Rees said the State Labor Government, over the past decade, had outlaid $170 million to help upgrade NRL facilities. "Rugby league has been generously supported by us and the taxpayers of NSW and that continues," Rees told radio station 2MMM's Grill Team.

About 80 per cent of respondents to a Daily Telegraph online poll yesterday voted against Rees giving AFL the cash.

NRL officials were still amazed yesterday that the NSW and Federal Governments would even contemplate spending $70 million of taxpayers' money to revamp a ground that GWS only plans to use for eight matches a season.

"It's a bit rich asking for all that money when there is a perfectly good facility right next door," Manly chairman Scott Penn said.Canterbury CEO Todd Greenberg added: "In the current economic climate, I doubt if any government would commit more taxpayer funding towards stadia infrastructure at Sydney Olympic Park."

Asked where his team would play if the showground was unavailable, AFL NSW/ACT general manager Dale Holmes said: "We have a range of options and we are talking to a range of stakeholders. "

so then the AFL used a corrupt minister to change things

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/greater-w...he-afls-team-not-sydneys-20160919-grk007.html

They were given a further $45m in public funding when the subsequently disgraced NSW minister, Ian Macdonald, an AFL tragic, paid for an upgrade of Sydney Showground.

 

[some11]

The fossils coming out of the woodwork now are infuriating, I sincerely hope the NSW govt sticks to their plan.

You're gonna have to spend money to update them anyway, maybe these people should ask themselves if they are happy with letting them rot and losing big events in the process.

 

[El Diablo]

Again 2 billion is a very small amount of the yearly spend in NSW. Spread that 2 billion over a 20 year period, and it is a small investment.

considering WA spent $1.6 billion on one stadium yet they constantly whinge about GST

 

[M2D2]

Ive thoroughly enjoyed El Diablos temper tantrum in this thread over the last few pages.

 

[El Diablo]

lol

i've upset a Foley groupie

 

[herbert henry1908]

Peter Fitzsimmons petition is now up to 90,000 signatures.

Fear if someone doesn’t get on the front foot we’ll lose this debate.