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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

t-ba

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For me it's even more bizarre in New Zealand seeing as the All Blacks are essentially a religion.
 

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The way they f**ked up Stadium NZ and decided to re-build Eden Park before the Rugby World Cup was laughable. For what? Two one-day internationals per summer?

Wellington is even more ridiculous in many ways because it already had a perfectly good 15,000 capacity cricket ground - and yet the footy stadium is an oval for one Black Caps game per summer?
 

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The way they f**ked up Stadium NZ and decided to re-build Eden Park before the Rugby World Cup was laughable. For what? Two one-day internationals per summer?

Wellington is even more ridiculous in many ways because it already had a perfectly good 15,000 capacity cricket ground - and yet the footy stadium is an oval for one Black Caps game per summer?

The Basin only held 12K. And since the closure of the old stand after the Kaikoura earthquake its much less than that. Westpac Stadium is used 5-6 international 20/20 and one dayers a year. And without Cricket use the stadium would never have been built.

The proposed Auckland stadium will not happen within the next dozen years and is probably 20 years away from being built. There is no central govt funding for it as ChCh will get their stadium before that and that's still a good three to five years away. At least Auckland has stadia. ChCh has a temporary stadium that was only supposed to be used for 3-4 years and its already been 7.
 

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Wellington is even more ridiculous in many ways because it already had a perfectly good 15,000 capacity cricket ground - and yet the footy stadium is an oval for one Black Caps game per summer?

Yep. The only thing they got right about the Wellington stadium was that they put it next to the railway station. It should have been rectangular and covered. What it lost in cricket games (not that it has many) would be re-couped from concerts, soccer & other events in the summer - especially with a roof just in case of summer showers.

The Basin with a new grandstand & lights would've been just fine for cricket.

I wish they'd gut the stadium, re-set the seats into a rectangular layout & slap a roof on (if that's at all possible.. I suspect not).

[Edit - looks like price is the ultimate barrier to that dream.. http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/10640357/Stadium-price-tag-through-the-roof ]
 
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https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.a...e/news-story/4741cbc5a5334fd89b9963b07831b19c

Gold Coast mayor Tom Tate backs plan to build a boutique stadium for NRL, AFL and A-League

Chris McMahon, Gold Coast Bulletin
May 26, 2018 12:00am


MAYOR Tom Tate has backed a radical plan to build a boutique stadium closer to the coastline to free the Titans from the shackles of Stadium Queensland.

The Titans are exploring a long-term strategy to dump Cbus Stadium in favour of a smaller capacity arena located closer to the city’s coastline public transport and amenities.

It is understood the boutique stadium would include a grandstand with corporate suites and seating for up to 8000 spectators and a hill section covering the rest of the arena that would accommodate a further 7000.

Gold Coast Mayor Tom Tate has thrown his support behind the idea, calling the current lease costs for Cbus Stadium “ridiculous.”

“The Titans owners are applying a commercial mind to their problem. That’s what smart business people do,” Cr Tate said.

“I’d be more than willing to discuss with councillors the possibility of a boutique stadium rising from the ground, somewhere else in our city.

“It would need to be on a public transport route and would need the support of the people but we can make it happen.

“The ridiculous $1.3 million per annum lease costs for Cbus Stadium could be directed into paying interest on a $20 million loan to build the infrastructure needed to make this boutique stadium work.”

He said he would even go as far as turning off the water to Cbus if a deal wasn’t reached and the Titans moved on.

“Stadiums Queensland would then be left with no anchor tenant for Cbus, and they can spend their weeks mowing it and keeping it spic and span, until the cow’s come home.

“I will also turn the water off to Cbus as we currently gift the water to that stadium, free of charge.”

The idea of a smaller stadium has gathered momentum as talks over the dud Cbus deal have dragged on.

Stadiums Queensland is charging the Titans $110,000 per game, including GST, which is up to four times the price their Sydney club rivals pay their landlords.

The success of Titans matches in Toowoomba and Gladstone has convinced the club that a cut-down stadium model could be the best option for them to thrive on the Gold Coast.

It would also be an ideal home for any future A-League franchise and would deliver the city a more attractive venue for mid-size concerts of up 20,000 fans.

The Titans are hopeful of striking a fairer deal with Stadium Queensland after meeting with senior officials this week.

Titans CEO Graham Annesley the club was hopeful of signing a deal to stay at Cbus that would be financially viable — but he hasn’t ruled out pursuing a smaller stadium.

“Our objective all along has been to enter into a long-term agreement at Cbus Stadium,” Mr Annesley said. “It’s our home ground, the stadium was built for the Titans over a decade ago and our discussions with the Government are making progress and our objective is to enter into a multi-year agreement there.

“Those sort of projects (building a new stadium) obviously always take a number of years to bring into fruition and who knows what our situation will be in a few years time.

“A city like the Gold Coast requires a range of different-size facilities to cater for all sorts of events, whether it be rugby league, rugby union, soccer, concerts, to have another quality facility for a range of events in a smaller venue, would be a fantastic addition to the Gold Coast.

“Our objective is to be filling Cbus Stadium most times we play there, which is 27,500 people. We would love to be in a position where we are doing that, but smaller venues to cater for smaller events, there will always be a place for that.”

Mr Annesley thanked the Mayor for his support during the negotiations process.

“The Mayor has been a fantastic supporter of the club and campaigned for us to get a better deal at Cbus and we’re extremely grateful for the support he has given us publicly, which has helped our cause.”
 
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A stadium close to public transport?! Imagine if they’d thought of that before spending $200m!

Gold Coast is a hot mess. I honestly won’t be surprised if the team doesn’t exist in 10 years.
 

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A stadium close to public transport?! Imagine if they’d thought of that before spending $200m!

Gold Coast is a hot mess. I honestly won’t be surprised if the team doesn’t exist in 10 years.

Forgive me if I'm wrong but isn't Cbus beside a station on the only train line servicing the Gold Coast? From memory the train line doesn't really get close to coast either, so the plan would be to have the new stadium serviced by the light rail and buses? Doesn't sound much better but a "city centre" location might make for a better game day experience.
 
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Forgive me if I'm wrong but isn't Cbus beside a station on the only train line servicing the Gold Coast? From memory the train line doesn't really get close to coast either, so the plan would be to have the new stadium serviced by the light rail and buses? Doesn't sound much better but a "city centre" location might make for a better game day experience.

You’re right, but that line from what I can tell only services the western part of the Gold Coast, there doesn’t appear to be adequate transport going east to west.

The stadium should’ve always been closer to the coast, people from the outer suburbs will always travel in, but people from the coastal suburbs will be less likely to travel out.
 

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While the Titans are looking at other stadiums, here’s Dolphin Stadium on the peninsula

https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=MDeLDfWgh6q

It actually currently looks better than that, the eastern hill has been turned into seating as well. If these stands are built with future expansion in mind, I have no doubt you could make a sweet little 18-20k stadium if you can build something at the southern end that incorporates the leaguesy (would be challenging). I’ve only been there once for a cowbs trial game, and I was pretty hosed but I can’t remember how far the public transport is from the ground, there’s not a lot of parking in the area.
 

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What the duck is Stadiums Qld endgame here? Aside from having $300m of unused infrastructure?
 

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You’re right, but that line from what I can tell only services the western part of the Gold Coast, there doesn’t appear to be adequate transport going east to west.

The stadium should’ve always been closer to the coast, people from the outer suburbs will always travel in, but people from the coastal suburbs will be less likely to travel out.

Honestly I'd imagine a lot of the Titans support would come from the outer suburbs anyway. CBus is a good stadium and in a good enough location, high prices and lack of success would be keeping more people away than accessibility in my opinion.

Build a stadium on the Coast and there is still the missing link of a train between the outer suburbs and the coast so I'm not sure it would improve attendances at all and limit crowds if the titans have a good run again.

I'd imagine this is all just noise to try and get a better deal out of Stadiums QLD, it's a shame there isn't a decent 10-15k venue on the Gold Coast that the Titans could use to make the threat more realistic & practical if they actually act on it.
 

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A stadium close to public transport?! Imagine if they’d thought of that before spending $200m!

Gold Coast is a hot mess. I honestly won’t be surprised if the team doesn’t exist in 10 years.
Lol, public transport and Gold Coast in the same conversation.
It’s basically non existent.
 

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So you’re paying overpriced tickets to sit in the dogs shit on the hill or they let the dogs shit on the field?
 

Timbo

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I read recently they’ve finally banned dogs from the ground. Amazing it took this long,

It’s not really - the ground was private land, left as a gift to the people of Sydney to be used as a public park.

Really it’s a bit rough that it’s been sectioned off.
 

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