The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[some11]

And will the gf be moved to Suncorp starting next year?

Believe it or not it's going to be played at the SCG.

They shit on the fans with rubbish sight lines just to keep it in Sydney.

 

[JB04]

If you have a degree in economics you’ll understand why ANZ has been good for those clubs, they’ve been guaranteeing game day revenue.

But that’s likely about to change.

Absolutely, there’s different perspectives to look at it through. From a club perspective, they generate a substantially greater profit than from suburban grounds making game days a very lucrative prospect. From a spectators/fan perspective (not looking monetarily here) the atmosphere is a shocker unless it’s a big game like mentioned before. Also from a top management (NRL) and broadcasters viewpoint ANZ isn’t fantastic to play regular games at due to the vast majority of empty seats which isn’t an ideal look for the game, which is where I think WSS will be great

 

[Rooster8]

If you have a degree in economics you’ll understand why ANZ has been good for those clubs, they’ve been guaranteeing game day revenue.

But that’s likely about to change.

A year 10 TAFE student could tell you that ANZ is a deadweight loss. Clubs with the opportunity would be better off playing at suburban grounds. Sure you can fit more people in during rivalry games and big occasions, but for a regular Saturday or Friday night game where ANZ produces on average anywhere from 13-18K would be better off being used for suburban grounds. Least that 13-18K capacity would fill suburban or lesser stadium and provide a great atmosphere. Would love to see a 20-25K Redfern Oval, Henson Park for those inner city matches and like stated earlier in this thread, use ANZ for finals, big occasions and SOO.

 

[axl rose]

Fair enough, after that I think it’d be a good strategy for them to make WSS their main ground.

Ideally but I can't see Leichhardt Oval ever being completely abandoned. The packed house and tv ratings a couple of times a year should ensure that. And Campbeltown will keep its games as Wests Ashfield Leagues controls 75%. So I guess we are stuck with 3 and the country 'home' game for a while yet.

 

[unforgiven]

Ideally but I can't see Leichhardt Oval ever being completely abandoned. The packed house and tv ratings a couple of times a year should ensure that. And Campbeltown will keep its games as Wests Ashfield Leagues controls 75%. So I guess we are stuck with 3 and the country 'home' game for a while yet.

West Ashfield controls 75% but Wests Campbelltown controls and contributes 0%.

 

[Perth Red]

A year 10 TAFE student could tell you that ANZ is a deadweight loss. Clubs with the opportunity would be better off playing at suburban grounds. Sure you can fit more people in during rivalry games and big occasions, but for a regular Saturday or Friday night game where ANZ produces on average anywhere from 13-18K would be better off being used for suburban grounds. Least that 13-18K capacity would fill suburban or lesser stadium and provide a great atmosphere. Would love to see a 20-25K Redfern Oval, Henson Park for those inner city matches and like stated earlier in this thread, use ANZ for finals, big occasions and SOO.

Except it isn’t reality, suburban grounds don’t draw bigger attendances than anz when used for more than the odd nostalgic game in a favourable time slot. You might prefer 12k in a suburban ground over 16k at anz but it makes no sense to drop our crowds even further than the poor level they already are. The answer isnt to withdraw to suburbia, it’s decent stadia like WSS

 

[herbert henry1908]

Ideally but I can't see Leichhardt Oval ever being completely abandoned. The packed house and tv ratings a couple of times a year should ensure that. And Campbeltown will keep its games as Wests Ashfield Leagues controls 75%. So I guess we are stuck with 3 and the country 'home' game for a while yet.

Wests Ashfield doesn’t own wests Campbelltown

 

[herbert henry1908]

A year 10 TAFE student could tell you that ANZ is a deadweight loss. Clubs with the opportunity would be better off playing at suburban grounds. Sure you can fit more people in during rivalry games and big occasions, but for a regular Saturday or Friday night game where ANZ produces on average anywhere from 13-18K would be better off being used for suburban grounds. Least that 13-18K capacity would fill suburban or lesser stadium and provide a great atmosphere. Would love to see a 20-25K Redfern Oval, Henson Park for those inner city matches and like stated earlier in this thread, use ANZ for finals, big occasions and SOO.

Sorry but you’re wrong.

ANZ stadium has been providing the clubs with a guaranteed amount of revenue, it’s why Souths chose to leave Allianz for ANZ. Clubs like the tigers actually lose money playing at Leichhardt.

However now that the govt owns ANZ this is likely to change.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Absolutely, there’s different perspectives to look at it through. From a club perspective, they generate a substantially greater profit than from suburban grounds making game days a very lucrative prospect. From a spectators/fan perspective (not looking monetarily here) the atmosphere is a shocker unless it’s a big game like mentioned before. Also from a top management (NRL) and broadcasters viewpoint ANZ isn’t fantastic to play regular games at due to the vast majority of empty seats which isn’t an ideal look for the game, which is where I think WSS will be great

I agree from a spectator standpoint, but clubs have needed the revenue. Up until this year they didn’t get enough money from the NRL to run their clubs.

I understand fans complaining about ANZ, but would they have preferred their clubs be on shaky financial ground?

 

[axl rose]

Wests Ashfield doesn’t own wests Campbelltown

Irrelevant. The Magpies control the board and will not abandon Campbeltown as a home ground.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Irrelevant. The Magpies control the board and will not abandon Campbeltown as a home ground.

Why?

They have no connection to Campbelltown, why would they care?

 

[JB04]

I agree from a spectator standpoint, but clubs have needed the revenue. Up until this year they didn’t get enough money from the NRL to run their clubs.

I understand fans complaining about ANZ, but would they have preferred their clubs be on shaky financial ground?

Of course I’d prefer the tigs to be in a better financial position than to be playing out of say Leichhardt and Campbelltown averaging ~10k and at a financial deficit (such as manly). I was just stating about how ANZ is a poor venue for regular season games through a strictly objectionable viewpoint

 

[axl rose]

Why?

They have no connection to Campbelltown, why would they care?

If they give up Campbeltown then what did the Magpies even get out of the joint venture they are funding? nothing.

 

[unforgiven]

Irrelevant. The Magpies control the board and will not abandon Campbeltown as a home ground.

Of course it is relevant, Wests Ashfield get nothing from the Tigers playing in Campbelltown.

 

[unforgiven]

If they give up Campbeltown then what did the Magpies even get out of the joint venture they are funding? nothing.

Wests Campelltown don't fund the joint venture.

 

[Perth Red]

Campbelltown is a dump and gets pathetic crowds. Why are Tigers persisting with it?

 

[El Diablo]

because it's not in Perth

 

[Last Week]

Campbelltown is a dump and gets pathetic crowds. Why are Tigers persisting with it?

The area is rugby league heartland that hasn't been capitolised on yet.

It'll only likely happen if/when the Tigers move there full time.

In an ideal world, Liverpool would have a stadium similar to Parramatta for the Dogs and Tigers, but that's unlikely.

 

[Captain Apollo]

Wests Campelltown don't fund the joint venture.

They haven't for a few years in fact. The financial "muscle" for the Wests Tigers is Wests Leagues Club at Ashfield. That is why they own 75% of the joint venture.

 

[Captain Apollo]

The area is rugby league heartland that hasn't been capitolised on yet.

It'll only likely happen if/when the Tigers move there full time.

In an ideal world, Liverpool would have a stadium similar to Parramatta for the Dogs and Tigers, but that's unlikely.

I doubt that will happen. Firstly the Balmain die hards will fight it. Even if that is overcome, why then would Wests Leagues at Ashfield continue being the club's financial benefactor? Its the same thing with those saying relocate the Roosters, it won't happen as their financial backbone is in a different location (in the Roosters case, Easts Leagues Club at Bondi Junction). Every single person proposing relocations often overlook certain financial realities. It would be the same if you proposed relocating the Bulldogs or the Eels, their leagues clubs can't and then why would they continue funding the football clubs?