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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

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They could literally just build a 40k Parramatta stadium there and it'd be cheaper and a better result than what's going to happen.

Then rebuild ANZ. f**k me. It's not hard.
 

Tiger Shark

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You would have thought that with the expected sell out, they would have emailed members and asked them to book seats, just like you say, ANZ does.
Geez we are so dumb in this country sometimes.
Anyway, suck shit to those that missed out. Stupid f**kers.

They sent an email to Platinum members saying the main members bar will be open for 90 minutes after the game to celebrate the last game at the stadium.

Everyone knew it would be packed. They should have told Platinum/Gold members to get there early, or allow then in earlier or something.

It's definitely a flawed process they had running. Can only hope it'll be better in the new stadium.
 

duylm

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To me the city stadium only makes sense if it’s the main Sydney venue, so that’d complicate things with ANZ stadium.

The rebuild of the SFS could be stopped though, but there’d be a big payout involved.

The other factor is the city stadium build cost is likely much more than the SFS, and given labor have made this all about the money it’d be hard for them to justify. Unless they perhaps scrapped the refurb of ANZ & perhaps even knocked it down and sold it to developers. But with that scenario there’s political implications for them in western Sydney.

All of that is to say it’s very unlikely we see much of a change to the SFS development. I could also see labor scrapping the ANZ refurb.

That's not the worst outcome. After people see how great a rectangular well built stadium can be after Western Sydney Stadium opens, a future government that's not facing a tenuous reelection or driving a cost-only agenda can do the proper knock down of ANZ. We might have to wait but that's better than being stuck with a wasteful attempted refurbishment.

For example I can't believe the design of the roof of the SFS, surely a roof that offers about 25% coverage of capacity would never pass our design preferences today like it did in the 80's.
 
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That's not the worst outcome. After people see how great a rectangular well built stadium can be after Western Sydney Stadium opens, a future government that's not facing a tenuous reelection or driving a cost-only agenda can do the proper knock down of ANZ. We might have to wait but that's better than being stuck with a wasteful attempted refurbishment.

For example I can't believe the design of the roof of the SFS, surely a roof that offers about 25% coverage of capacity would never pass our design preferences today like it did in the 80's.

Supposedly the roof on the SFS was like that because they ran out of money.
 

siv

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The roof at the SFS was actually modelled on a 120k stadium proposed in 1965 for St Peters as part of a older NSWRL and Sydney olympic proposal
 

Perth Red

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Well the NSW Parliamentary Committee looking into the NSW Government's Stadia strategy has reported. If you want to peruse their report click here -
https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/lcdocs/inquiries/2483/Final report - Sydney stadiums strategy.pdf

In summary:

The committee has found that projects announced under the government's stadia strategy have not met the government's own infrastructure spending criteria. The committee has also found that the NSW Government's failure to prioritise the release of business cases or other quality assurance processes in support of the stadia strategy has understandably led many in the community to question the government's motives in prioritising stadia, and the claimed benefits that superior stadia will deliver to New South Wales.

On the evidence received, the committee has found that the significant safety and security concerns at the Sydney Football Stadium require immediate attention, and support the case to proceed with the demolition and rebuild of a facility in the Moore Park precinct

The committee has therefore recommended that the government not proceed with the redevelopment of Stadium Australia until construction of the new Sydney Football Stadium is completed.

https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/lcdocs/inquiries/2483/Final report - Sydney stadiums strategy.pdf
 

Perth Red

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"Recommendation 4 That a single governing entity be established for the Sydney Cricket Ground, Sydney Football Stadium, Stadium Australia, the new Western Sydney Stadium and other stadia identified in the Rebuilding the Major Stadia Network strategy document."

Would the NSW Govt have the balls to disband the SCG Trust?
 

some11

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"Recommendation 4 That a single governing entity be established for the Sydney Cricket Ground, Sydney Football Stadium, Stadium Australia, the new Western Sydney Stadium and other stadia identified in the Rebuilding the Major Stadia Network strategy document."

Would the NSW Govt have the balls to disband the SCG Trust?

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw...n-commits-to-new-stadium-20180330-p4z75q.html

Shepherd and Jones would have a conniption, snouts only move on if there's another trough to use.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fed...secret-government-review-20180304-p4z2qi.html
 
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The Great Dane

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So GWS wants another upgrade to Manuka Oval if they are going to extend their deal with the ACT government beyond 2021, which they'll almost certainly get and more, which means that the new stadium will almost certainly be put off again which means it's likely that Canberra won't see a new rectangular stadium before 2030 at the earliest (no surprises there frankly), or if we do it'll be multipurpose (which would basically be useless to the rectangular sports anyway).

So again the NRL and ARU (and to a lesser extent FFA) have sat around twiddling their dicks while they let things go to shit when all it would take is a little bit of pressure (similar to the pressure the NRL put on the government for the stadiums in Townsville, Parra, etc) to get it over the line, but nope as always Canberra is out of sight out of mind.

The Raiders (and to a lesser extent the Brumbies) need to wake the f**k up and realise that we're all going to be dead and buried before the government actually builds the f**king thing (despite the fact that it's been an election promise since at least 2012 and will be into the future, though again no surprises there), and that even when they do eventually get around to it it won't fit the clubs needs anyway, so stop relying on totally unreliable people that are going to screw you anyway and back your f**king selves to get the job done and get it done right.

The only way a new stadium is going to happen and not be a complete f**k up that is useless to the club is if they build it themselves!

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/sp...ve-better-at-manuka-oval-20180925-p505y7.html
 

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In summary:

The committee has found that projects announced under the government's stadia strategy have not met the government's own infrastructure spending criteria. The committee has also found that the NSW Government's failure to prioritise the release of business cases or other quality assurance processes in support of the stadia strategy has understandably led many in the community to question the government's motives in prioritising stadia, and the claimed benefits that superior stadia will deliver to New South Wales.

On the evidence received, the committee has found that the significant safety and security concerns at the Sydney Football Stadium require immediate attention, and support the case to proceed with the demolition and rebuild of a facility in the Moore Park precinct

The committee has therefore recommended that the government not proceed with the redevelopment of Stadium Australia until construction of the new Sydney Football Stadium is completed.

https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/lcdocs/inquiries/2483/Final report - Sydney stadiums strategy.pdf

Hahahahahahahaha. Wow.
 

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"Recommendation 4 That a single governing entity be established for the Sydney Cricket Ground, Sydney Football Stadium, Stadium Australia, the new Western Sydney Stadium and other stadia identified in the Rebuilding the Major Stadia Network strategy document."

Would the NSW Govt have the balls to disband the SCG Trust?

Probably more likely that they'll have the SCG trust manage all the stadiums.
 

Cumberland Throw

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"Recommendation 4 That a single governing entity be established for the Sydney Cricket Ground, Sydney Football Stadium, Stadium Australia, the new Western Sydney Stadium and other stadia identified in the Rebuilding the Major Stadia Network strategy document."

Would the NSW Govt have the balls to disband the SCG Trust?


Nope they will let the trust run the lot
 

Cumberland Throw

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So GWS wants another upgrade to Manuka Oval if they are going to extend their deal with the ACT government beyond 2021, which they'll almost certainly get and more, which means that the new stadium will almost certainly be put off again which means it's likely that Canberra won't see a new rectangular stadium before 2030 at the earliest (no surprises there frankly), or if we do it'll be multipurpose (which would basically be useless to the rectangular sports anyway).

So again the NRL and ARU (and to a lesser extent FFA) have sat around twiddling their dicks while they let things go to shit when all it would take is a little bit of pressure (similar to the pressure the NRL put on the government for the stadiums in Townsville, Parra, etc) to get it over the line, but nope as always Canberra is out of sight out of mind.

The Raiders (and to a lesser extent the Brumbies) need to wake the f**k up and realise that we're all going to be dead and buried before the government actually builds the f**king thing (despite the fact that it's been an election promise since at least 2012 and will be into the future, though again no surprises there), and that even when they do eventually get around to it it won't fit the clubs needs anyway, so stop relying on totally unreliable people that are going to screw you anyway and back your f**king selves to get the job done and get it done right.

The only way a new stadium is going to happen and not be a complete f**k up that is useless to the club is if they build it themselves!

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/sp...ve-better-at-manuka-oval-20180925-p505y7.html


For f**k sake they play3 games a year there and they want a $100m stadium ..get f**ked
 

Perth Red

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For f**k sake they play3 games a year there and they want a $100m stadium ..get f**ked

Given the crowds and membership in Sydney wouldn't surprise me if they moved 6 games there as the sweetner for stadium upgrade.

Re NRL and Canberra lobbying, had to laugh in the strat plan where they announced the stadium lobbying as a key strategic goal, even though its all done deals and under construction! Youd think they would have set some new targets to achieve by 2022 like Canberra, Auckland and Cronulla/Penrith. But at least they can tick their strat goal on this one lol.
 

Suitman

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Well the NSW Parliamentary Committee looking into the NSW Government's Stadia strategy has reported. If you want to peruse their report click here -
https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/lcdocs/inquiries/2483/Final report - Sydney stadiums strategy.pdf

Part of the opening statement by The Chair, the Hon Robert Brown MLC.
He is from the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party.

On a personal note, I make the following observations regarding the whole concept of 'massive Sydney investment in a truncated timetable vs overall state needs'.
Having travelled extensively in rural New South Wales, particularly during this year of extended relentless drought, it has become apparent to me that there is widespread disapproval of the government's 'stadiums strategy'. I have even heard the 'four-stadia-now' policy of the government being likened to Roman era 'circuses for the mob'.

Should a chair of a committee he is representing be making personal comment?
 

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