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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

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The NRL, raiders and brumbies need to campaign harder and make this a more public problem. Force the government to publicly defend their decision not to put money towards the rectangular sports which dominate the Canberra sporting landscape. Right now few people really know or care about what’s happening and no one in politics cares. So the interested parties need to fight harder.

In terms of the Foley thing I see little changing. They will still be fighting the same fight. I do see them having a bit less of a focus on stadiums as they take a back foot after the Foley incident.
we need barr and labor gone for a start
 

Zadar

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f**k he’s a genius that Barr merkin.

The fruity one is too busy spending taxpayers money painting rainbows on buses and roundabouts, to give any thought to a much needed new stadium which would bring more life to the games and the cbd itself.
 

thorson1987

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The NRL, raiders and brumbies need to campaign harder and make this a more public problem. Force the government to publicly defend their decision not to put money towards the rectangular sports which dominate the Canberra sporting landscape. Right now few people really know or care about what’s happening and no one in politics cares. So the interested parties need to fight harder.

In terms of the Foley thing I see little changing. They will still be fighting the same fight. I do see them having a bit less of a focus on stadiums as they take a back foot after the Foley incident.

A-League also admitting a Canberra based side on the proviso a new rectangular stadium gets built would help too.

Having 3 full time tenants would surely put pressure on Barr.
 

Billythekid

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A-League also admitting a Canberra based side on the proviso a new rectangular stadium gets built would help too.

Having 3 full time tenants would surely put pressure on Barr.

Obviously that would help but the bigger thing would be the ability to attract more international games. Pretty sure if Canberra had a stadium like WSS than the kangaroos, wallabies and Socceroos would all be more keen to play there. It would really help Canberra attract bigger events.
 

Suitman

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Obviously that would help but the bigger thing would be the ability to attract more international games. Pretty sure if Canberra had a stadium like WSS than the kangaroos, wallabies and Socceroos would all be more keen to play there. It would really help Canberra attract bigger events.

Yes, but those sports are a threat to his beloved AFL (IN Canberra).
 

King hit

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https://www.smh.com.au/sport/act-go...ml?ref=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_source=rss_feed

ACT government weighs up Western Sydney Stadium blueprint

Caden Helmers5 November 2018 — 2:47pm

A rebuild in the heart of Parramatta could be the key to delivering a stadium in Civic as the ACT government's plan to transform Canberra's city centre evolves.

The NRL has urged ACT Chief Minister Andrew Barr to explore the prospect of building a Western Sydney Stadium-like venue in the capital, which will hold 30,000 people.

The territory government is in talks with the Australian Sports Commission about buying Canberra Stadium, which could pave the way for a redevelopment of the existing venue.

However the government could develop the land with the funds going towards a new roofed stadium in the CBD, one Canberra Raiders chief executive Don Furner and the ACT Brumbies have been longing for.

"In my most recent meeting with the NRL in relation to future stadium design and facility needs, they were very keen for us to have a look at the Parramatta Stadium rebuild that’s currently underway," Barr said.

"We’ve gone and done that, and that does present a different model for stadium delivery. It’s a much more compact footprint, much steeper, that may well be a design that could fit more comfortably into the available site of the CBD.

"We continue to engage, but I do want to stress that in terms of the sequence of larger infrastructure priorities, we are more advanced and will be delivering a new Canberra Theatre precinct before we will be delivering a new stadium."

The territory government set aside $1.8 million for upgrades to the Canberra Theatre this year, having allocated $700,000 to start developing a business case for a new theatre.

The size of the current theatre has excluded Canberra from hosting major events, so the an extension or a new centre built on the site of the Mooseheads car park have been floated as options.

Barr has reaffirmed his commitment to an expanded theatre precinct after he said the prospect of buying Canberra Stadium may not come to fruition for another decade as negotiations continue with the Australian Sports Commission.

The commission is planning to downsize the campus at Bruce and reshape the way the AIS is used by athletes, coaches and sports scientists but the future of Canberra Stadium remains unclear.

The ACT government pays $350,000 per year to rent Canberra Stadium for ACT Brumbies and Canberra Raiders matches while also spending money to use the AIS Arena and the AIS pool.

"The acquisition of that by the ACT government would provide one pathway to a stadium infrastructure renewal. [Civic Stadium] is not a short-term infrastructure priority," Barr said.

"It’s a project the territory will consider in the 2020s, but it’s not something that will feature in the coming budget round or indeed the 2020 territory budget in terms of financing a build.

"There’s virtually two options: if we’re able to secure an agreement with the Commonwealth in relation to the existing stadium and surrounding land, then that would give an option, either for a rebuild on that land or the alternate option is the site we’ve identified in the CBD.

"You wouldn’t have two rectangular stadiums in Canberra. Acquisition of the site at Bruce would allow for a number of different options.

"In terms of the pursuit of a CBD stadium, the proceeds of the sale of that land at Bruce would be directed to finance a CBD stadium. Alternatively, redevelopment in that precinct could also finance a rebuild of the existing stadium."

About $1.3 million will be spent on improving Canberra Stadium this year, and up to $3.7 million over the forward estimates, however Barr says "prior to owning that asset, we would not be investing significantly in that asset".

Barr says the government is exploring a range of options to improve the amount of shaded areas at Manuka Oval with undercover seating options at a premium.

It comes as the venue is being prepared to host a Test match between Australia and Sri Lanka from February 1, with Cricket Australia desperately eyeing a sell-out crowd following a lacklustre turnout of 1824 at the annual Prime Minister's XI fixture last week.

Barr says he raised the matter of a lack promotion with Cricket Australia after the governing body took over the management and operation of the fixture, saying it was not up to the standard of Cricket ACT's promotion in recent years.

These politicians in the rugby states need to understand at all times that the people here want to see RUGBY LEAGUE not fumbleball and that they will gain popularity if they support the local sport.
 

The Great Dane

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These politicians in the rugby states need to understand at all times that the people here want to see RUGBY LEAGUE not fumbleball and that they will gain popularity if they support the local sport.

Honestly in the ACT's case it's got nothing to do with RL (or again in the ACT's case more realistically rugby in general) vs Aussie Rules, nobody really cares (a lot of the people that are against the GWS deal, etc, are AFL fans themselves), it's more to do with the fact that some blow-ins from Melbourne via Western Sydney are getting stupid amounts of taxpayer money while a bunch of much more important things (like education, health, etc) go to shit in the ACT through miss management, poor governance, and frankly complacency on Labours part born out of the belief that there's no competition so they'll always be in government (which frankly is a pretty accurate assessment unless a viable third party comes to power or ACT Liberals change so much that they effectively cease to be Liberals).
 

beave

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There is so little detail in that report it's not funny.

Other then and vague reference to Unions, it's unclear if there is a cost overrun and why.

there was an article last week about the stadium in the bully, stating that the cfmeu seems to have ramped up involvement in the day to day goings on in the build. They lost a fair few hours one day because a new type of fire extinguisher was either found or put at the site and apparently all the staff had to stop work and be trained on this new extinguisher.

They also lost a fair chunk of a day and a heap of concrete because there was a trip hazard identified just as they went to pour concrete and everything had to be stopped until it was sorted. Apparently a concrete truck/s, had to dump their loads because of it.

Who knows how true or accurate the reporting is, I’m not a builder or have ever been involved with a union so I have NFI how it all works.
 
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Rhino_NQ

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there was an article last week about the stadium in the bully, stating that the cfmeu seems to have ramped up involvement in the day to day goings on in the build. They lost a fair few hours one day because a new type of fire extinguisher was either found or put at the site and apparently all the staff had to stop work and be trained on this new extinguisher.

They also lost a fair chunk of a day and a heap of concrete because there was a trip hazard identified just as they went to pour concrete and everything had to be stopped until it was sorted. Apparently a concret truck/s, had to dump their loads because of it.

Who knows how true or accurate the reporting is, I’m not a builder or have ever been involved with a union so I have NFI how it all works.
Considering each day a team of 1 machine and 3 guys gets delayed is a $7500 bill on my site shit like the above can definitely rack up some numbers over time
 

Canard

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there was an article last week about the stadium in the bully, stating that the cfmeu seems to have ramped up involvement in the day to day goings on in the build. They lost a fair few hours one day because a new type of fire extinguisher was either found or put at the site and apparently all the staff had to stop work and be trained on this new extinguisher.

They also lost a fair chunk of a day and a heap of concrete because there was a trip hazard identified just as they went to pour concrete and everything had to be stopped until it was sorted. Apparently a concrete truck/s, had to dump their loads because of it.

Who knows how true or accurate the reporting is, I’m not a builder or have ever been involved with a union so I have NFI how it all works.
Considering each day a team of 1 machine and 3 guys gets delayed is a $7500 bill on my site shit like the above can definitely rack up some numbers over time

But $50M? Doubtful.

Also these sorts of costs wouldn't normally be able to be passed onto the client (government).
 

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