The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[herbert henry1908]

That is a problem with VenuesLive Catering, not the stadium itself. If they had bothered to properly cater for 19,000 people it wouldn't have been an issue.

It’s a juggling act with keg beer, though. They don’t want to be caught out with heaps of half tapped kegs. Even full kegs is a pain because they’ll have to move them to another venue.

Supplies for temporary venues is a major pain in the arse. (Worked in the industry)

 

[Bring back John Fifita]

Wankbest would sound better

beat me to it..

 

[El Diablo]

beat me to it..

only if you beat me too

 

[TheFrog]

The deal was both stadiums get done and the GF stays here. If he pulls the plug on just Allianz the NRL are 100% within their rights to shift it.

Of course they are. Let 'em. Who cares?

 

[TheFrog]

Why would it be a laughing stock?

Because they'd be directly compared to fumbleball, who get 100k at the same joint.

 

[Quicksilver]

The more events a stadium has the less likely it will be to run out of supplies.

You can order more stock if you know there’s going to be another game in a few days or next weekend. But if there’s only a game there every few weeks they’ll order less.

It’s a juggling act with keg beer, though. They don’t want to be caught out with heaps of half tapped kegs. Even full kegs is a pain because they’ll have to move them to another venue.

Supplies for temporary venues is a major pain in the arse. (Worked in the industry)

They use cans anyway. Can't see why they can't be used elsewhere (or a few weeks later) if they have an over-supply at the end of the day. It can't be that difficult and if it is someone needs to come up with a better system.

 

[El Diablo]

Derpley should read what stadiums contribute

https://www.smh.com.au/national/wes...ml?ref=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_source=rss_feed

AFL tourism bonanza could repay Optus Stadium in just 10 years

David Prestipino5 December 2018 — 8:57am

The $1.8 billion price tag of Perth's multi-purpose stadium could be recouped in just 10 years on the back of the state's burgeoning AFL tourism market alone.

Interim Tourism WA data showed Optus Stadium was an economic powerhouse for WA during its inaugural season hosting AFL for co-tenants Fremantle and West Coast.

New figures reveal more than 66,000 people travelled to Perth specifically to watch football at the 60,000-seat venue in 2018 and spent almost $66 million while here.

Of the 31,059 interstate visitors, 22,887 flew west during the regular season while 8172 hopped on a plane to watch West Coast play two home finals against Collingwood and Melbourne.

They stayed in Perth for an average 4.4 nights, spending $245 each day, directly contributing $34 million to WA.

Similarly 25,812 people from regional WA came to Perth during the regular AFL season and a a further 8853 for finals.

They spent an 3.14 nights here and outlayed $295 a day, generating $32 million for the state.

Tourism minister Paul Papalia said the state government's AFL marketing campaigns interstate had helped drive visitation for football fixtures at the stadium well past its target of 18,000 for the year.

"Maximising leisure visitation from AFL games at Optus Stadium and encouraging visitors to stay longer and spend more is a key component of the state government’s two-year action plan," he said.

Other tourism campaigns adopted on the east coast had helped increase the number of overall interstate visitors to WA by 11.3 per cent to 1.477 million in 2017-18.

Tourism Council WA chief executive Evan Hall said based on the council’s 2014 estimate that 38,000 AFL visitors would generate $117 million for WA, the cost of the stadium could be recouped in a tick over 10 years.

"Effective marketing of good value AFL tourism packages has paid off ... these packages are critical to changing the out-of-date perspective that Perth is expensive," he said.

AFL fans could buy tourism packages to Perth that included return flights, four nights accommodation, match tickets and car hire from $750.

WA was also in a unique position to maximise leverage off AFL fixtures.

"AFL tourism is driven by great footy and we are blessed with two great local teams drawing big crowds every week," Mr Hall said.

"We get twice the matches and twice the tourism as stadiums such as Metricon on the Gold Coast.

"And to bring it all home, Tourism WA invested in an extremely effective marketing campaign targeting interstate AFL fans."

AFL was the single biggest new tourism market WA had experienced in some time, with more visitors than the state receives from Germany, Japan or India.

Mr Hall said a key industry focus in 2019 was to convince AFL tourists to stay longer in WA and experience regional attractions like Broome and Margaret River.

The stadium could next year bring even greater riches to WA's economy as it gears up for a bumper seven-week feast of sport featuring four football codes and up to 360,000 bums on seats.

The bonanza begins with the first-ever State of Origin clash in WA, between Queensland and NSW on June 23, before two massive AFL fixtures: a grand final rematch between West Coast and Collingwood and the 50th Western Derby between the Dockers and Eagles on July 6.

Powerhouse franchise Manchester United will then jet into town for games against Perth Glory and fellow English Premier League giant Leeds United, before the sporting feast ends with a Bledisloe Cup clash in August between the Wallabies and All Blacks.

Those six events are likely to sell out the 60,000-seat stadium, with a significant portion of the 360,000 fans predicted to travel from interstate and overseas.

 

[Captain Apollo]

The following was published by the Sydney Morning Herald -

A sneak peek at the new home of the Parramatta Eels
Adrian Proszenko5 December 2018 — 6:59pm

Like the Death Star inReturn of the Jedi, it’s only about 75 per cent completed, so you’ll need to use your imagination a bit.

But as these pictures illustrate, the new Western Sydney Stadium – now known as Bankwest Stadium after the firm entered into a seven-year naming-rights deal – is set to be completed on time and on budget.

If the Parramatta Eels have another shocking year, they won’t be able to blame their home ground. The architects have borrowed the best bits of stadium design from here and abroad to give sporting fans out west something unique.

The new Bankwest Stadium, home of the Parramatta Eels.CREDIT:LOUISE KENNERLEY

The 30,000-seat venue is the steepest in Australia, a nod to the tight seating bowl of Brisbane’s Suncorp. If Jarryd Hayne was still playing for the Eels he would liken it to the home ground of the San Francisco 49ers, where all of the corporate seats are located on one side. There’s also a touch of Children's Mercy Park, the home of the Kansas City Football Club, another intimate arena that lets the punters get closer to the players.

“In the world of stadia and entertainment, closeness to the field of play is like the holy grail, that’s what you’re trying to achieve,” said Venues NSW chief executive Paul Doorn.

“In a 30,000-seat stadium it means you can be tighter and closer to the field of play than you can on a larger scale.

“We’ve taken the best of a whole host of venues that are benchmarks [internationally].”

Close to the action: An artist's impression of the completed stadium.

Every one of the seats is under cover and, regardless of which one they chose, punters are never further than 30 metres from a toilet or a food outlet. They will also be able to walk around the entire facility courtesy of the 360-degree open concourse, meaning they won’t miss a try or a goal while lining up for beers and pies.


The Eels, having waited until the eve of the NRL draw announcement to sign on as the anchor tenants, believe they negotiated a contract that leaves them about $1 million a season better off than the deal originally tabled. The Wanderers will undoubtedly also commit, but may delay until closer to the state elections in the hope of also extracting a better outcome.

Regardless, the Red and Black Bloc will be beneficiaries of what Doorn described as a “big innovation from an Australian perspective.”

On track: The stadium is set to be completed on time and on budget.

“We’ve got stand-up seating,” Doorn explained when pointing to a section behind the goalposts. “So when it’s in football or soccer mode, there’s an ability to remove the seats and have a designated standing area for a thousand people."

Bankwest Stadium is already attracting plenty of sporting content. The Eels will open the ground against Wests Tigers on Easter Monday, the first of 14 NRL games scheduled there for 2019. The Waratahs will also take three Super Rugby games west, the Wanderers will host Leeds in July and the inaugural World Cup of international league nines will be held two weeks after the NRL grand final.

While all systems are go in the golden west, a cloud still remains over the fate of Allianz Stadium in the east. Labor leader Michael Daley has turned the stadium debate into an election issue, threatening not to rebuild Allianz if it is knocked down before the March elections. NSW Minister for Sport Stuart Ayres said taxpayers would be the big losers as the SCG Trust couldn’t afford to foot the bill.

“There’s no way the SCG Trust could afford to pay a $730 million loan back,” Ayres said.

“No other stadium anywhere in the country would be able to do that. It would require repayments of about $60 million a year and their current operating surplus is just $2 million.

“It seems pretty clear to me that Michael Daley wants to shut the SCG down; he doesn’t want it to function.

“He wants to send the Sydney Swans away from Sydney, he wants to get rid of the SCG Test. If he doesn’t want to do those things, he’s going to use taxpayer funds from the health and education budget to fund that $60 million repayment.

“He should probably explain that to the people of NSW.”

 

[kdalymc]

Wankbest would sound better

Wankfest is better again

 

[El Diablo]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...z-stadium-sfs-demolition-20181205-p50kch.html

By the state election, a quarter of the roof of Allianz Stadium will already be gone

Jacob Saulwick
6 December 2018 — 12:00am

About a quarter of the roof of the Sydney Football Stadium at Moore Park will have been removed by the state election and demolition will have started on the eastern side of the stands, according to the man responsible for tearing it down.

In a briefing to members of the SCG Trust last Thursday, David Riches, the Infrastructure NSW bureaucrat in charge of building a $729 million facility to replace the football stadium, also known as Allianz, said he expected planning approval for demolition “within the next two or three weeks".

“Almost immediately” after obtaining that planning approval, Mr Riches said, the government would be able to sign a demolition contract. Contractors are expected to take over the stadium from January 2.

The state of the SFS at the time of the March election has emerged as a significant issue, after Labor Leader Michael Daley warned the government not to sign an imminent demolition contract.

Mr Daley has said if Allianz Stadium was demolished before March, an elected Labor government would not rebuild it.


Mr Riches told SCG members that the demolition process would run for 12 months.

“Demolition itself, given it is a noisy, dusty activity will not commence until after the Sydney cricket Test match, 8th or 9th of January,” Mr Riches said.

"I would expect by the end of March maybe 20 to 25 per cent of the steel roof will be gone and demolition of the stands at the eastern side will have commenced," he said.

Much of the questioning at the briefing, audio of which was provided to the Herald, focused on what would happen if Labor, which opposes the new stadium, was elected.

“If we are in a position where we are asked by the government of the day to terminate the contract we have executed, normal contractual provisions will prevail,” Mr Riches said.

“We will be under instruction of the government of the day.”

Mr Daley has also warned the SCG Trust not to sign a demolition contract.

Addressing members at last week’s briefing, the chairman of the SCG Trust, Tony Shepherd, said his organisation would not be signing the contract – Infrastructure NSW would – but that he would sit down with any possible new government to assess its options.

“It will be up to them to make that decision based on the state of demolition at that time,” Mr Shepherd said.

Asked whether, should Labor win the election, one result would be for a smaller and cheaper stadium to be built on the site, Mr Shepherd said: “That’s quite possible … but again I’m not clairvoyant.”

Mr Daley has suggested the SCG Trust could pay for a stadium by itself, either through its own borrowings or a concessional loan from the government.


“Lots of luck,” said Mr Shepherd of the idea that the trust, which had an annual surplus of about $2 million, could fund a replacement stadium.

“I doubt we could borrow – even with the most generous banker in the world - $729 million and pay it back at $2 million a year.”

Mr Shepherd said he would meet with Mr Daley and “repeat to him we are a not-for-profit organisation and we do not have the financial means to service a debt that size, let alone to repay it.”

In his briefing with members, Mr Shepherd provided a fierce defence of the SCG Trust’s actions in advocating for a new stadium. He said the trust, in mid-2016, commissioned safety audits into the state of the 30-year-old stadium.

Those reports showed it had multiple safety deficiencies. "Despite what some fools in the media may say, we take that seriously, and we will always," he said.

The Sports Minister, Stuart Ayres, has said the state government took its stadium policy to the 2015 election – despite the policy at the time little resembling what it is now.

Readers oppose government stadium policy

Exclusive Ucomms/Reachtel polling for the Herald reveals more than 58 per cent of voters oppose or strongly oppose the state government's stadium policy, including knocking down Allianz.

About 36 per cent of people polled said they strongly supported or supported the government building stadiums in Sydney, and 4 per cent were undecided.

The poll shows the highest level of opposition to the stadiums policy came from National Party voters but a senior Nationals source said the debate was very Sydney-centric.

"The stadia issue isn't really impacting regional NSW," the source said.

Responding to the poll results, Mr Ayres said Western Sydney Stadium was "proof our strategy is strong and working".

"Labor's plan to cut $630 million from Nepean Hospital and leave a great big hole in the ground at Moore Park just shows they can't build hospitals or stadiums," Mr Ayres said.

"Under Labor there would be no Western Sydney Stadium, no Nepean Hospital redevelopment, no F6, no Metro to Bankstown. Labor has learnt nothing, cutting infrastructure rather than building it just hurts the future generations."

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Sending the Swans away from Sydney and losing the SCG test is a bit of a stretch (although if we can pull the first one off, then happy days!!!). It is not the SCG that is getting torn down. The trust acts like if they were disolved, the stadia will no longer exist. But they will just be moved under the watch of Venues NSW like every other major stadium in the state.

 

[OldPanther]

I don’t think so. Many of the Sydney teams have good supported bases in Queensland, funnily enough the teams he used as an example have long held ties to SEQ in particular. Further demonstrating he has NFI about rugby league.

He seems to hate the game.

 

[thorson1987]

The following was published by the Sydney Morning Herald -

Nah just f**k off the SCG Trust. Venues NSW can run them.

 

[Zadar]

So if contracts for demolition have been signed, and a contract for a new build has been signed by the existing government, how much compensation would the contractors get from the new government if they cease construction?

Is there a possibility that a half demolished stadium could be left there?

 

[siv]

Why do I get the feeling the SFS will get demolished money gets pulled by the next governent. Sits idle for a few years and then they put up a new car park

 

[jim_57]

Why do I get the feeling the SFS will get demolished money gets pulled by the next governent. Sits idle for a few years and then they put up a new car park

Doubt it.

Imagine the fight the government would have on it's hands not just with the SCG trust but with the 3 professional sports clubs left without a home ground.

I'd say it is more likely ANZ will be the one to miss out of things go pear shaped unfortunately. Not rebuilding a major sports/events stadium no matter who made the decision to knock it down would be political suicide.

 

[Timbo]

Doubt it.

Imagine the fight the government would have on it's hands not just with the SCG trust but with the 3 professional sports clubs left without a home ground.

I'd say it is more likely ANZ will be the one to miss out of things go pear shaped unfortunately. Not rebuilding a major sports/events stadium no matter who made the decision to knock it down would be political suicide.

Yeah, I’m thinking we probably just end up with a more austere Nu-SFS. Daley isn’t going to leave a giant hole in the ground on the edge of the city in an entertainment precinct.

 

[herbert henry1908]

So if contracts for demolition have been signed, and a contract for a new build has been signed by the existing government, how much compensation would the contractors get from the new government if they cease construction?

Is there a possibility that a half demolished stadium could be left there?

We’d need to see the contract to know about compensation, but fairly confident in saying there’s no way a half demolished stadium will stay. The job will be finished it’s at that point.

 

[El Diablo]

Yeah, I’m thinking we probably just end up with a more austere Nu-SFS. Daley isn’t going to leave a giant hole in the ground on the edge of the city in an entertainment precinct.

he seems stupid enough to do that and turn ANZ into a white Elephant at the same time

 

[TheFrog]

Yeah, I’m thinking we probably just end up with a more austere Nu-SFS. Daley isn’t going to leave a giant hole in the ground on the edge of the city in an entertainment precinct.

Probably not, but if he wins, he'll be bound by his undertaking not to rebuild with public money. My money would be on a refurbishment for which the Trust stumps up a goodly share.