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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

TheRam

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(greenBV4 posted as I was typing out basically the same point as him. Here it is anyway.)

A deck was built over the railway lines leading into Flinders Street Station in Melbourne to build Federation Square. It’s a great way to reclaim land and for this particular location it links the city with the river. There’s even been talks to continue the decking further east to create even more public space.

Building a deck over Central Station for a stadium and other public space (I’m sure there’d be commercial space as well) would be such a positive thing for Sydney. Expensive, yes but you’re never going to see that much space open up in Sydney ever. I doubt it will ever happen but it would be so good if it did. It would be an amazing project.

I wish there was some way that the media could get behind this project and really start to promote it over the Moore Park option. Make the pollies stand up and take notice. Something like hanky head did but actually for a good productive outcome for all rectangular sports this time.
 

El Diablo

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https://www.news.com.au/national/we...h/news-story/2847aee1d8928554d893a9c2cf597d1a

IS CONFIDENT WA can “win the fight” and take its fair share of the Australian tourism pie, particularly with big events at Optus Stadium.

“Next year our event portfolio is probably one of the best in Australia. If you take out traditional marquee events in other States like the (Melbourne Formula One) Grand Prix, our portfolio is one of the best, if not the best,” Mr Carr said, citing Perth’s role hosting Manchester United in soccer, rugby’s Bledisloe Cup, a State of Origin rugby league clash and a season of AFL games.

“The stadium is having a big impact. We’ve seen it already with AFL numbers, but it’s having a big impact on tourism generally.

“It’s a great stadium, the best in the southern hemisphere, and that’s a fantastic asset."
 

franklin2323

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I wish there was some way that the media could get behind this project and really start to promote it over the Moore Park option. Make the pollies stand up and take notice. Something like hanky head did but actually for a good productive outcome for all rectangular sports this time.

With the population going crazy out west and the 2nd airport. When this would be considered it is more then likely to go out west. The CBD lost its shot I'd say
 

Saint Doc

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there was no way in the f**king world that stadium was 30% filled. They’re full of shit.

I didn’t see the crowd so I’m not specifically commenting about that.

But just as a general rule, test cricket crowds often look smaller than the announced crowd as it’s a whole day event. People arrive and leave at all different stages of the game. At any one time half the crowd may be in the concourse escaping the heat, buying food and drink etc.

You get a similar effect at things like 7’s rugby / 9’s league etc
 

Timmah

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I didn’t see the crowd so I’m not specifically commenting about that.

But just as a general rule, test cricket crowds often look smaller than the announced crowd as it’s a whole day event. People arrive and leave at all different stages of the game. At any one time half the crowd may be in the concourse escaping the heat, buying food and drink etc.

You get a similar effect at things like 7’s rugby / 9’s league etc
Not to mention they usually get those figures for the first few days too, so add it all up and it's a decent attendance.

Not even sure why we're trying to shoot down cricket crowds anyway but here we are.
 

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Cowboys Stadium. December 2018.



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franklin2323

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Not to mention they usually get those figures for the first few days too, so add it all up and it's a decent attendance.

Not even sure why we're trying to shoot down cricket crowds anyway but here we are.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricke...oor-perth-stadium-crowds-20181217-p50mtb.html

The State boss did that. So why can't it be mentioned?

A new stadium is great but the issues that are around will still be then. As she has put the issues in cricket are more then a shiny new stadium can fix.

Same here. Thurs night will still be ordinary for crowds. Food and Drink and ticket price issues will still be there.

Where it does and will help is getting exclusive events that may go elsewhere
 

Diesel

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Bye-bye Ballymore.

Looks like Suncorp maybe getting a new western grandstand within a decade, which I believe is the reason why it is capped at 52000

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https://www.smh.com.au/national/que...ce-recommends-demolition-20181219-p50n6a.html

Ballymore’s stands should be demolished and Queensland’s spiritual home of rugby should become a training centre for club rugby, a 12-month review of the state's sports stadiums has found.

The report recommends Ballymore not be developed as major sports venue, that stands be removed from the former Commonwealth Games stadium at Nathan and notes a new western grandstand may be required at Suncorp Stadium in the next five to 10 years.

hopes for a new boutique stadium in Brisbane, which has long been touted as a requirement for events that would not justify the use of the 52,500-capacity Suncorp Stadium.

These findings, plus the decision to take commercial naming rights for the Gabba to the market in early 2019, are the major features of the Stadiums Taskforce Report, released on Wednesday.
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Queensland Rugby confident Ballymore's case stacks up
The report found Ballymore should not be expanded because maintenance costs are running an annual loss of $1.5 million.

“The Ballymore venue is not ideal as a location for a major stadium facility as it does not meet contemporary standards for a major stadium facility,” the report finds.

“(It has) limited road access to the site, close proximity to the residential neighbourhood and no access to scheduled high-frequency and multi-modal public transport.

“The Ballymore venue is more aligned to being a training, club participation and administrative hub for rugby and compatible sports as opposed to being a location for a major stadium.”


It points out that while Queensland Rugby Union has lodged a development approval to build a 24,000-seat stadium, the venue was running at a loss.

“The Ballymore venue maintenance and operational costs are increasing and the asset is continuing to degrade with an annual net loss of $1.5 million,” it finds.

The taskforce recommended "that the current Ballymore grandstands be demolished and a community facility be constructed that caters to training and local community rugby union matches".

Queensland Rugby also has preliminary plans for a bridge connecting through to nearby Wilston Station, but does not have funding from either the state or federal governments for its redevelopment plans.

The report finds a new western stand would be needed at Suncorp Stadium, now rated as Queensland’s premier sports venue, within the next 10 years.


“Redevelopment of this stand would significantly modernise the venue and elevate the corporate and premium seating offerings to a new level comparable with new southern venues,” the report finds.

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Brisbane needs a boutique stadium and the World Game can deliver it
But football's hopes for a new boutique stadium in Brisbane found no ally in the report.

"There is no current need for additional stadiums, either major or boutique, in Brisbane because there is current capacity for additional content within the existing venues that are managed by Stadiums Queensland and other existing operators," the report finds.

Queensland Rugby said the Stadiums Queensland report recognised its view that Ballymore should become a national training centre and not a stadium.


“We are pleased that the report has acknowledged the issues around Ballymore and we look forward to talking to the state government about its future,” a Queensland Rugby spokesman said on Wednesday.

Queensland Rugby has previously proposed that Ballymore become a national rugby training centre and the headquarters for Australian women’s rugby, the Wallaroos.

In April 2018 it lodged plans which included removing the old McLean Stand and replacing it with a wing which included an elite training centre. It is seeking $15 million to redevelop the centre.

Expressions of interests for the naming rights to the Gabba will go out to the market early in 2019, Sports Minister Mick de Brenni confirmed on Wednesday morning.

The other major changes, discussed in the interim report released earlier in 2018, are improvements to public transport to the two Gold Coast venues, Metricon Stadium (oval) and Cbus Super Stadium (rectangular).


TransLink will take over the management of bus fleets to both stadiums in early 2019.

Government on a sticky wicket over the loss of Gabba Test
At Metricon Stadium agreement has been reached to lower the lease payments for the Gold Coast Suns AFL team, as the anchor tenant of the stadium, into the sinking fund for maintenance.

The report also notes that the Brisbane Entertainment Centre at Boondall is nearing the end of its life.

"The location of the Brisbane Entertainment Centre does not meet contemporary standards for a major entertainment facility, including limited access to scheduled high-frequency and multi-modal public transport," it finds.


The Queensland government and BEC managers AEG Ogden have also planned the 17,000 seat Brisbane Live complex at the redeveloped Roma Street Station, now part of the Cross River Rail development.

Cross River Rail was also identified as a catalyst for a much-needed upgrade to the Gabba.

The report has also recommended the radical downsize of the Queensland Sports and Athletics Centre, which hosted the 1982 Commonwealth Games.

The 48,000-capacity stadium at Nathan still has the aluminium stands that were installed as a temporary measure for the Games.

Since then, the venue has largely gathered dust.


"The number of major events that use all stands in the main stadium at the Queensland Sport and Athletics Centre are reducing over time as a result of better options being available at Suncorp Stadium and the expanding of the Gabba for one-off major events," the report finds.

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QSAC's empty stands.CREDIT:HARRISON SARAGOSSI

"The temporary aluminium grandstands at either end of the main stadium were built for the 1982 Commonwealth Games. The cost of maintaining these stands is inconsistent with the amount of use they receive for one-off major events."
 
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Soccer will be fuming they missed out on a boutique stadium. Suncorp is really too big for them, plus there’s pitch issues I understand.

Plus good luck getting many people to call the Gabba anything else, some names are too iconic to change.
 

jim_57

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Soccer will be fuming they missed out on a boutique stadium. Suncorp is really too big for them, plus there’s pitch issues I understand.

Plus good luck getting many people to call the Gabba anything else, some names are too iconic to change.

From the way I read it it was more of a 'not yet'. Why would they commit to it before it is needed? I'm sure if a 2nd A-League and/or 2nd NRL side were to come to life a second venue would have a much better case.

With another 25+ games of content in the city a 2nd stadium would probably be a must. It could make Suncorp a majority RL venue with all but bigger club games & Internationals in Soccer and Union being played at a more reasonably sized venue.
 
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