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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

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From the way I read it it was more of a 'not yet'. Why would they commit to it before it is needed? I'm sure if a 2nd A-League and/or 2nd NRL side were to come to life a second venue would have a much better case.

With another 25+ games of content in the city a 2nd stadium would probably be a must. It could make Suncorp a majority RL venue with all but bigger club games & Internationals in Soccer and Union being played at a more reasonably sized venue.

From what I’ve read there’s been problems with the pitch in summer at Suncorp because of concerts.

A second ALeague team should get it over the line I guess, but I wouldn’t want to see an NRL team play a a smaller venue. Any second Brisbane team needs to be at Suncorp, otherwise they’ll perpetually be the little brother. (I mean they’ll be the little bro anyway, but the smaller stadium will widen the gap)
 

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From what I’ve read there’s been problems with the pitch in summer at Suncorp because of concerts.

A second ALeague team should get it over the line I guess, but I wouldn’t want to see an NRL team play a a smaller venue. Any second Brisbane team needs to be at Suncorp, otherwise they’ll perpetually be the little brother. (I mean they’ll be the little bro anyway, but the smaller stadium will widen the gap)

Fully agree, the boutique stadium would free up Suncorp by taking A-League & Super Rugby smaller games away from the stadium. I can't see too much Rugby League being played at a smaller stadium, maybe QLD Cup finals or smaller internationals.
 

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From what I’ve read there’s been problems with the pitch in summer at Suncorp because of concerts.

A second ALeague team should get it over the line I guess, but I wouldn’t want to see an NRL team play a a smaller venue. Any second Brisbane team needs to be at Suncorp, otherwise they’ll perpetually be the little brother. (I mean they’ll be the little bro anyway, but the smaller stadium will widen the gap)
they don't play cricket there
 

El Diablo

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https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...y/news-story/db118f33ec731fe15882d44d1c68a151

Suncorp Stadium named the NRL ground with highest risk in player injury

David Riccio Chief Sports Writer, The Sunday Telegraph
an hour ago


It’s widely regarded as the best rectangular stadium for rugby league in Australia.

But ahead of the NRL’s historic Magic Round next season, Brisbane’s Suncorp Stadium is set for unprecedented scrutiny after recording the highest risk of injury by any venue in 2018.

Alarmingly, Suncorp recorded a higher risk of injury than perennial problem pitch Brookvale Oval, according the NRL’s Injury Surveillance Report for the 2018 season.

The study took in data provided from all 16 NRL clubs across the 439 players who participated in the 2018 season.

The Broncos’ home ground recorded an 8.0 per cent risk of injury to players — the highest in the NRL. Suncorp also recorded the equal highest average number of injuries per game (2.7).

Surprisingly, the relatively new Gold Coast Titans’ home of Cbus Super Stadium was narrowly behind Suncorp with 7.8 per cent risk of injury and equal on average number of injuries per game.

New Zealand’s Mt Smart Stadium was ranked the third most dangerous venue in the NRL with a 6.4 per cent risk of injury.

The Magic Round will be part of the NRL’s regular season for the first time next year.

All eight matches making up round nine will played at Suncorp over four days, beginning with the Titans versus Cronulla on Thursday, May 9.

NRL head of football Graham Annesley said he had full faith in the Suncorp ground staff to prepare a pitch that was safe for the players.

However, he conceded the impact of 16 teams over four days on a playing surface during an NRL season was exceptional and an obvious future focus for the code.

“There’s no question that Suncorp is a first-class stadium with a quality surface and on this occasion, I would think the (2018) figures are skewed by nothing more than bad luck,’’ Annesley said.

“Eight games over four days (next year) is an unusual amount of traffic and the weather will play a role in that as well.

“But we’ll definitely be talking to the venue about how of paramount, is the health and safety of the players.’’

Long derided for being the NRL’s worst ground for it’s consistently boggy playing surface, Brookvale Oval, or Lottoland, did little to improve its poor reputation.

While falling behind Suncorp for risk of injury, Brookvale was responsible for players missing more games from injury (than any other venue, with 9.9 per cent of all games missed by players due to injury were as a result of playing on the northern beaches ground.

Newcastle’s McDonald Jones Stadium caused 3.8 per cent of the injuries which resulted in players missing games.

The aim of the NRL report, which was sent to every NRL club last Friday, was to identify the incidence, site, nature and risk factors of injuries sustained in the 2018 season that resulted in missed playing time and make comparisons to previous seasons.

The study revealed 88.6 per cent of NRL squad players suffered an injury in 2018.

Front-row forwards accounted for the highest incidence rate for injury, followed by backrowers.

Tackling an opposition player accounted for 31.3 per cent of all injuries.

The most common injuries to the body were to the head (23.5 per cent) followed by upper leg/thigh injuries second overall (17.4 per cent).

“One of those reasons those numbers are as high as they are is that there is so much more observation of those things now and they’re under so much more scrutiny than they ever were,’’ Annesley said.

“While there was a spike of head and neck injuries over the last few years that’s majorly because of increased scrutiny.

“We’re already seeing that start to taper off and then hopefully then reduce because there’s more things being done, particularly with HIA (head injury assessment) and next season we’re introducing medical spotter’s in the bunker.

“There’s also more training and qualifications of on-field trainers and education from the NRL about the impact of head injuries.

“We’re not so much concerned an increase in the numbers, as long as we are in identifying those incidents, we’re actually providing a safer environment for the players.’’
 

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I remember a game at Suncorp where you could see little puffs of sand rise into the air with every running step the players took. I think it was during that State of Origin match when Shaun Timmins did his knee and it took a year and a half before he could play again.
 

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I remember a game at Suncorp where you could see little puffs of sand rise into the air with every running step the players took. I think it was during that State of Origin match when Shaun Timmins did his knee and it took a year and a half before he could play again.

The first year or two (or three) after it reopened I remembered there being a lot of controversy about the playing surface, "sandpit" headlines etc. Hardly relevant now though.

Weird article, the only injuries you could blame the ground for (at a stretch) are leg injuries with little to no defender involvement, even then bad luck happens.
 

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Widely regarded as the best rectangular stadium for Rugby League.

Why the weird qualifier? It's not like there are oval League Stadiums out there that are considered as good.

Also 8 games in 4 days isn't a lot of traffic, most suburban grounds will have this many in one day played on a weekend.
 

siv

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Widely regarded as the best rectangular stadium for Rugby League.

Why the weird qualifier? It's not like there are oval League Stadiums out there that are considered as good.

Also 8 games in 4 days isn't a lot of traffic, most suburban grounds will have this many in one day played on a weekend.

Most of the issue is the modern soil setups for drainage and the constant returfing

Dirt layers are shallow with a deep sandy underlayer

Also roots dont go as deep as they usually do at home or in a local field

But Magic weekend will prove if we can play 3 games on matchday on a modern pitch like the old days
 

Saxon

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I remember a game at Suncorp where you could see little puffs of sand rise into the air with every running step the players took. I think it was during that State of Origin match when Shaun Timmins did his knee and it took a year and a half before he could play again.
That was forever ago. I think he did his knee trying to step Jesus at fullback.
 

thorson1987

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Most of the issue is the modern soil setups for drainage and the constant returfing

Dirt layers are shallow with a deep sandy underlayer

Also roots dont go as deep as they usually do at home or in a local field

But Magic weekend will prove if we can play 3 games on matchday on a modern pitch like the old days

So the weeks of 3 grades at the one field last season didn't already prove this????

Suncorp holds 3 games on the one day for the QRL Grand Finals each year. Pretty sure it handles it.
 

AlwaysGreen

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Most of the issue is the modern soil setups for drainage and the constant returfing

Dirt layers are shallow with a deep sandy underlayer

Also roots dont go as deep as they usually do at home or in a local field

But Magic weekend will prove if we can play 3 games on matchday on a modern pitch like the old days
Like this:
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titoelcolombiano

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I remember a game at Suncorp where you could see little puffs of sand rise into the air with every running step the players took. I think it was during that State of Origin match when Shaun Timmins did his knee and it took a year and a half before he could play again.

Haha yes - it was renamed Sandcorp stadium for a while there
 

Last Week

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Interestingly, there’s no significant penalty clause if the Allianz contract is cancelled. Only costs accrued.

This increases the prospect the stadium will be scaled back if labor win. In fact I’d say that’s almost certainly what will happen if they win.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...-stadium-deal-terminated-20181217-p50mqa.html

I'd be all for a reduced size in the stadium design if it meant ANZ being done properly or, the Central stadium fantasy coming true.
 

Dogs Of War

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Clearly that is not the case though.

If Labor win we’re screwed

Maybe someone needs to hit up there local Labor members about the alternate stadium option over Central which can also then ensure that the stadium is controlled by NSW Events rather than Moore Park trust. Given the costs are going to be similar to build. A stadium in that location would be perfect.

Plus then labor could sell that more green space is opening up. And a better use of amenties. Especially when Rugby L/U games and AFL games are on at the same time.
 

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