The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[siv]

I think a 100% drip line would be impossible without a complete rebuild. It’d simply require too much unsupported roof extension from the current structure.

Put the roof on ANZ as originally designed and planned

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Put the roof on ANZ as originally designed and planned

You mean the current design could be fitted with a full roof?

 

[SpaceMonkey]

That number was not accurate. That was just for exit signage and associated electric works.

The austere renovation number was actually $130m. Which is an awful lot of money to put lipstick on a pig.

But it was an accurate number for what was necessary to bring it up to code safety wise. So that what I’ve beeneen spending to keep it going while ANZ was done. Like you said, don’t want to waste money putting lipstick on a pig.

 

[Timbo]

You’re missing the point as to why it’s important to do them simultaneously.

If you do one, and do it properly, it takes 2-3 years. By which time we’re headed towards another election and you’ve just spent a billion dollars on a stadium. At that point it becomes far more politically expedient to do the absolute bare minimum on the other and call it a day.

This is a once in fifty year investment in Sydney sports infrastructure. Do it properly.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

You’re missing the point as to why it’s important to do them simultaneously.

If you do one, and do it properly, it takes 2-3 years. By which time we’re headed towards another election and you’ve just spent a billion dollars on a stadium. At that point it becomes far more politically expedient to do the absolute bare minimum on the other and call it a day.

This is a once in fifty year investment in Sydney sports infrastructure. Do it properly.

When is the work on ANZ due to start?

I agree on the long term investment part.

 

[snogard6]

When is the work on ANZ due to start?

I agree on the long term investment part.

End of this year

 

[Timbo]

Is the plan still to do it one half at a time so it can still be used for club footy?

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Yeah it’s gonna be a bit of an issue if both ANZ and Allianz are out simultaneously. Especially with the SCG as it is.

 

[tumbidragon]

Yeah it’s gonna be a bit of an issue if both ANZ and Allianz are out simultaneously. Especially with the SCG as it is.

I'd imagine the Parra 2.0 stadium could pick up some of the workload. Would help if Roosters brought a few more games to the Central Coast stadium as well.

 

[Timbo]

I guess the Dogs would have to use Belmore a bit more. Souths could use the Showground maybe? Along with BankWest?

 

[T-Boon]

I'd imagine the Parra 2.0 stadium could pick up some of the workload. Would help if Roosters brought a few more games to the Central Coast stadium as well.

Ideally Bankwest stadium will do 2 games each weekend. That would really be great for church street.

 

[Perth Red]

Nsw election actually a bad outcome for stadiums imo. Much better if we had ended up with 35k allianz, no scg trust and anz put on hold until money available for complete demolition and rebuild.

Wou,d have been nice to see a GF in Perth as well

 

[Perth Red]

this article is just Lancini playing games to get what he wants.

If we gotta spend $15mil for it by ourselves and then make it a bit more austere, so be it. The pics i’ve seen of it are a bit over the top and could surely be scaled back a bit.

Lol at cowboys claiming a centre of excellence is somehow essential to their finacial future. Does he really think anyone in Canberra is that stupid?

 

[siv]

You mean the current design could be fitted with a full roof?

Yes - as quoted from the structural engineer who built the ANZ arches & temp stands

The arches were designed to support a retractable rolling up roof. It was one of the reasons for the removal of the temp stands in the first place

Even if they do the lower bowl redesign and bring in the north and south end seating etc

You haven't changed the roof structure

I would rather not spend money on adjysting the drip line but focus those funds on the retractable roof

 

[siv]

Yeah it’s gonna be a bit of an issue if both ANZ and Allianz are out simultaneously. Especially with the SCG as it is.

SFS will take 4 years to rebuild while ANZ build starts at seasons end for 2 years

 

[greenBV4]

This is an idea that would probably either be a big success or huge fail, but either way would be interesting (its also slightly of topic but relevant to the discussions above)

If theres going to be a few homeless teams for a year, would it be possible and all that bad if that team decided to temporarily "relocate" to an expansion area for a year to "test the waters" for the NRL (with a fair bit of money thrown in)

eg: Souths don't really have a stand out option of Sydney stadiums, so they decide to set up camp in Perth for a year? or even 50/50 with another area

If they managed a half decent crowd average for the year, then thats surely a sign that a new club actually representing the area would be successful?

 

[Perth Red]

This is an idea that would probably either be a big success or huge fail, but either way would be interesting (its also slightly of topic but relevant to the discussions above)

If theres going to be a few homeless teams for a year, would it be possible and all that bad if that team decided to temporarily "relocate" to an expansion area for a year to "test the waters" for the NRL (with a fair bit of money thrown in)

eg: Souths don't really have a stand out option of Sydney stadiums, so they decide to set up camp in Perth for a year? or even 50/50 with another area

If they managed a half decent crowd average for the year, then thats surely a sign that a new club actually representing the area would be successful?

At the least you’d hope the nrl and clubs would see it as an opportunity to play more games in nrl devoid cities. No nrl games in Perth this year, the first time since 2008!

 

[herbert henry1908]

SFS will take 4 years to rebuild while ANZ build starts at seasons end for 2 years

Allianz is closer to 3 years than 4.

Early 2022 is the target. Should only impact 3 NRL seasons.

https://www.scgt.nsw.gov.au/allianz-stadium/allianz-stadium-redevelopment/

 

[herbert henry1908]

Yes - as quoted from the structural engineer who built the ANZ arches & temp stands

The arches were designed to support a retractable rolling up roof. It was one of the reasons for the removal of the temp stands in the first place

Even if they do the lower bowl redesign and bring in the north and south end seating etc

You haven't changed the roof structure

I would rather not spend money on adjysting the drip line but focus those funds on the retractable roof

It'd be great for Sydney if we could still get a roof on it. I prefer all weather footy, but a roof would provide certainty for concerts, boxing, UFC etc etc.

It's really criminal we didn't at least put a roof on one of these stadiums.

Take an event later this year in Melbourne, Boomers Vs USA. Sydney didn't have anywhere big enough to host it.

 

[ReddFelon]

Nsw election actually a bad outcome for stadiums imo. Much better if we had ended up with 35k allianz, no scg trust and anz put on hold until money available for complete demolition and rebuild.

Wou,d have been nice to see a GF in Perth as well

With 4 years guaranteed, Stuart Ayres could easily change his mind as sports minister and allow for the full rebuild to occur.