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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

taipan

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It'll only be one Grand Final & one Orgin at the SCG, no big deal.

They're shooting for ANZ to be done in 22 months.

But according to the Herald's resident economist, civil engineer, and employment expert, Fitzbandana ,the Govt can't build hospitals, schools and stadiums at the same time.
 

Timbo

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The SCG cant even handle the load now which is being helped out by Kogragh and brookvale which too is now having problems but you want it all done at the same time.
Its pretty obvious youre not from Sydney at all.

f**k mate, go back and read even one of the earlier posts.

No, it can’t. But if you want both stadiums to be rebuilt, they have to be done simultaneously. Otherwise you risk whichever one goes second having nothing done or only the absolute bare minimum because the political captial isn’t there to do it too close to the next election.

And whilst I recently moved to Newcastle for work, I lived in Randwick for the last thirty years within walking distance of Moore Park. So have have another swing champ.
 

TheFrog

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But according to the Herald's resident economist, civil engineer, and employment expert, Fitzbandana ,the Govt can't build hospitals, schools and stadiums at the same time.
Who said anything about building schools and hospitals?
 

taipan

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Who said anything about building schools and hospitals?

Getting a tad touchy!!! Fitzhead made the comment Govts can't build new stadiums, hospitals and schools at the same time
.My response here as it's relevant ,was a shot over his bow, because the stadiums are going to be done at the same time.ANZ expecting 2022, as indicated above.Evidencing my point, nothing more.
 

M2D2

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f**k mate, go back and read even one of the earlier posts.

No, it can’t. But if you want both stadiums to be rebuilt, they have to be done simultaneously. Otherwise you risk whichever one goes second having nothing done or only the absolute bare minimum because the political captial isn’t there to do it too close to the next election.

And whilst I recently moved to Newcastle for work, I lived in Randwick for the last thirty years within walking distance of Moore Park. So have have another swing champ.
Why am in not surprised that you believe the liberal and SCG trust bullshit.
And no. No they dont need to be done simultaneously. You just think they do because of bullshit you agree with and have been spouting for f**king months.

It’s not far behind at all, demolition was only stopped for 3 weeks.

Plus the post you quoted was talking about ANZ, not Allianz.
Because the the idea is that the new SFS will be ready in time so only one goes missing.
And no. Demo ALSO STARTED LATE. THEN was stopped.
Its MONTHS behind.

So Brookvale which is already a shithole is now even worse due to its increased workload, so is Kogarah & the SCG.
But hey, f**k anybody who has to watch games at these shit grounds for 2+ years, f**k the players who have to play at these shit grounds and get injured because of the poor surface. Lets use the Risk bullshit excuse, just after the liberals got re-elected even though there should be a whole year before the next NSW election before they start ANZ.
Get f**ked.
 

TheFrog

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Getting a tad touchy!!! Fitzhead made the comment Govts can't build new stadiums, hospitals and schools at the same time
.My response here as it's relevant ,was a shot over his bow, because the stadiums are going to be done at the same time.ANZ expecting 2022, as indicated above.Evidencing my point, nothing more.
Suggesting Glad might not be so forthcoming with the schools and hospitals, but she won so I guess she can do what she wants.
 

Timbo

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It'll only be one Grand Final & one Orgin at the SCG, no big deal.

They're shooting for ANZ to be done in 22 months.

People seem to think the sky is falling when it's really not that big a deal. We'll still have one world class stadium in Sydney with BankWest and clubs just have to manage their use of the suburban grounds along with the SCG and the Showground.

I think the only club that really needs to look at their match allocation for next year is the Roosters. The Bulldogs can play more games at Belmore with derby's at BankWest, and Souths can look at the Showground or BankWest. A couple of extra games at Gosford for the Chooks should solve some of the problems of the SCG.

It's a couple of seasons of pain at ovals and suburban grounds and we'll end up with three world class rectangular stadiums that could handle 90% of the matches in Sydney if they had to.
 

M2D2

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People seem to think the sky is falling when it's really not that big a deal. We'll still have one world class stadium in Sydney with BankWest and clubs just have to manage their use of the suburban grounds along with the SCG and the Showground.

I think the only club that really needs to look at their match allocation for next year is the Roosters. The Bulldogs can play more games at Belmore with derby's at BankWest, and Souths can look at the Showground or BankWest. A couple of extra games at Gosford for the Chooks should solve some of the problems of the SCG.

It's a couple of seasons of pain at ovals and suburban grounds and we'll end up with three world class rectangular stadiums that could handle 90% of the matches in Sydney if they had to.
AH. There it is.
You are literally only thinking about one sport and not taking into consideration the other codes and what they do to the grounds.
Makes more sense now.
 

Timbo

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AH. There it is.
You are literally only thinking about one sport and not taking into consideration the other codes and what they do to the grounds.
Makes more sense now.

What are you talking about? I'm on a f**king league forum, of course I'm talking about the league.

Since you're incapable of working out what I meant and you need everything broken down to you:

The SCG is being overworked because of the Roosters and the Waratahs when the ground is usually only used by the Swans. The Waratahs are already limiting their use of the ground by playing matches at BankWest, Brookvale and McDonald Jones and I wouldn't be surprised if next year they play an extra game away from the SCG (perhaps in Woolongong, or in another part of Sydney where there is a rugby following like Cronulla). The Super Rugby season will be 7 home games only in 2020 so there may be as few as three games at the SCG. A one off orign and grand final will not impact this.

Belmore currently has no top-tier tenant other than the Dogs and can handle a few extra games each season. They can play Western Sydney Derbys at BankWest.

Souths can use the Showground, slotting around when the Giants use it as the primary tenant. Or they can use BankWest depending on availability although we don't want to overwork the turf, so I would not be surprised at all if they take an extra game or two on the road to Perth or similar.

The A-League teams won't be impacted, as their season is in summer. Now that we've seen the issues that popped up at Kogarah and Leichardt over the summer it is down to Sydney FC to more effectively manage where they schedule the games to allow the turf to recover.

If you would like me to film a video of how this works with me via a PowerPoint presentation and the use of finger puppets I am more than happy to do so.
 

taipan

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Suggesting Glad might not be so forthcoming with the schools and hospitals, but she won so I guess she can do what she wants.

As any Govt who wins generally do what they want.
Which points to what more people wanted, than what Daley & Co thought, else he would have won on the stadium issue.
 

M2D2

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What are you talking about? I'm on a f**king league forum, of course I'm talking about the league.

Since you're incapable of working out what I meant and you need everything broken down to you:

The SCG is being overworked because of the Roosters and the Waratahs when the ground is usually only used by the Swans. The Waratahs are already limiting their use of the ground by playing matches at BankWest, Brookvale and McDonald Jones and I wouldn't be surprised if next year they play an extra game away from the SCG (perhaps in Woolongong, or in another part of Sydney where there is a rugby following like Cronulla). The Super Rugby season will be 7 home games only in 2020 so there may be as few as three games at the SCG. A one off orign and grand final will not impact this.

Belmore currently has no top-tier tenant other than the Dogs and can handle a few extra games each season. They can play Western Sydney Derbys at BankWest.

Souths can use the Showground, slotting around when the Giants use it as the primary tenant. Or they can use BankWest depending on availability although we don't want to overwork the turf, so I would not be surprised at all if they take an extra game or two on the road to Perth or similar.

The A-League teams won't be impacted, as their season is in summer. Now that we've seen the issues that popped up at Kogarah and Leichardt over the summer it is down to Sydney FC to more effectively manage where they schedule the games to allow the turf to recover.

If you would like me to film a video of how this works with me via a PowerPoint presentation and the use of finger puppets I am more than happy to do so.
1. Yes, yes it is.
2. Super Rugby isnt changing to the 7 home games until 2021, the 2020 season will stay as it is in 2019.
3. Belmore has restrictions placed on it that doesnt allow the dogs to play there more than a few times a season, also has strict No Sydney teams matches after the last incident where they lost to cronulla, so unless the NRL rescinds that decision, thats not happening. I also dont see that happening either.
4. Rather than waiting you want teams to play at spotless, a stadium and ground that has been complained about by the A League & the AFL. Not (just) the fans. Not just the teams. The leagues themselves.
5. The A League teams WILL be affected, but that wasnt the point i was trying to make, its the fact these codes are f**king up the league grounds even more due to use, and due to the weather of the last 6 months and the damage its done to these grounds.

If you want to make a propaganda piece as a powerpoint presentation and use fingerpuppets and ignore the reality of whats been happening to the grounds thats had to take the workload due to whats has happened with the 2nd biggest stadium in Sydney as why we dont need to worry when we take the BIGGEST stadium in Sydney away as well. Go right ahead pal. Shall be an interesting piece.
 

Timbo

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Look, I'm not going to engage you any further on this because you've made up your mind and I genuinely can't be bothered any longer when the original point as to why they have to be done simultaneously - otherwise the risk that the second one is not done at all, or is done incredibly poorly is too great - remains my original point.

We will still have three top tier - SCG, Showground, Bankwest - stadiums in Sydney and seven suburban grounds. If the league, AFL, union and soccer can't somehow find a way for 11 professional teams to share ten grounds for all of two seasons then perhaps we don't really deserve the fancy new ones.
 

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