The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[TheRam]

Not an NRL stadium as such but potential for future.

So is this only one of the proposals?


https://indaily.com.au/news/local/2020/02/12/bid-to-bring-city-stadium-proposals-into-light/

Bid to bring city stadium proposals into light

Adelaide City Council CEO Mark Goldstone will request that elected members be briefed on rival proposals to build a new sports stadium on the park lands, after it was revealed he has been engaged in “high-level” discussions about one of the bids since 2018.

The State Government last week announced planning was underway for “additional major inner-city and sporting entertainment infrastructure” – its first public acknowledgement that a second city stadium is being actively considered to potentially shift A-League soccer from Coopers Stadium in Hindmarsh to the CBD.

InDaily reported in March last year that two competing CBD stadium proposals had gained influential government support.

One proposal – which has been linked to a potential sell-off of the Entertainment Centre and Coopers Stadium – is tied to the Adelaide Venue Management Corporation, which also runs the Adelaide Convention Centre.

That proposal was in a “feasibility stage” last year and suggests locating a new sports and entertainment hub at the railyards site adjacent to Adelaide’s new North Terrace health precinct.

The other bid suggests building a stadium on Memorial Drive adjacent to Adelaide Oval following recent minor upgrades to the tennis centre, which Tennis SA hopes is the first step in a significant broader redevelopment.

InDaily asked a spokesperson from the Adelaide Oval Stadium Management Authority if it was behind the Memorial Drive push, but is yet to receive a response.

A third option being mooted – but not formally proposed – is an arena built on the southern end of the Adelaide golf course.

The Memorial Drive, Adelaide golf course and railyards sites are all located on the park lands.

At last night’s Adelaide City Council meeting, it was revealed that Goldstone and two directors met with a consultant engaged by the Adelaide Venue Management Corporation (AVMC) in September 2018 to consider its proposed railyards stadium.

“Commentary was high level and broad in nature, and related to types of users and stadia infrastructure in other jurisdictions,” Lord Mayor Sandy Verschoor told the chamber.

“Following media activity last year detailing the potential for an inner-city stadium on or around the railyards, the CEO met with the CEO of the AVMC to seek clarity regarding the concept.

“The conversation was of a high-level nature and the CEO requested that if and when such a concept was progressed, the CEO of the AVMC would provide a briefing for council members.”

Verschoor said Goldstone participated in a “peer review” of the city stadium concept at the railyards but his comments were “limited to the potential impacts and limitations on the park lands site” as “no details were provided of the proposal”.

Goldstone told the meeting he would formally ask the AVMC and the Adelaide Oval Stadium Management Authority to provide briefings to council members about their respective plans.

He said while he had engaged with the AVMC about its proposal, he had “no insight into the Adelaide Oval Stadium Management Authority”.

Verschoor said no discussions had occurred with elected members or council staff about using a section of the Adelaide golf course to build a new sports stadium.

She said she was not involved in the council’s discussions with the AVMC.

InDaily asked the AVMC about the outcome of its “peer review” and whether it would accept Goldstone’s request for a council briefing.

“My apologies, but Adelaide Venue Management is not in a position to comment,” its CEO Anthony Kirchner responded.

In its last annual report, AVMC chair Bill Spurr said the corporation had invested “significant time in 2018-19 giving consideration to the future entertainment and sporting venue infrastructure needs of South Australia”.

He said Coopers Stadium had a “sound year” but attendance figures were down across the A-League’s 2018-19 season.

InDaily asked a State Government spokesperson whether its “additional major inner-city and sporting entertainment infrastructure” would be located on the park lands.

The spokesperson said a soon to be released government sports infrastructure plan would look at a range of options and ideas from key stakeholders.

 

[TheRam]

And here is more but they are behind pay walls unfortunately. If anyone can post the articles it would be much appreciated.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/subs...27b6e10b869908dc94ea8-1600649253#command-form

RIVAL BIDS FOR A NEW CBD ROOFED STADIUM
Twin plans to completely transform the areas surrounded the Adelaide Oval can be revealed, as the big ticket schemes pitch to bring soccer, basketball and more tennis to the CBD.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/subs...27b6e10b869908dc94ea8-1600648659#command-form

THE SA STADIUM SHOWDOWN
For the first time, a majority of South Australians support a new indoor stadium in Adelaide’s Riverbank but can’t decide between rival proposals — either a $250m arena on Memorial Drive or a $700m city railyard bid. Which would you get behind?

 

[TheRam]

I can't remember if anyone has already posted this but there is also this happening in Christchurch NZ right now.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/b...stchurch-stadium-work-continues-amid-lockdown

Coronavirus: Christchurch Stadium work continues amid lockdown
Michael Hayward11:51, Apr 08 2020

Work on the long-awaited Christchurch Stadium continues despite coronavirus restrictions, with no delays predicted at this stage.

A 25,000-seat, mostly clear-roofed building was settled on after a long-running investment case. The Madras St facility will host a range of events, including sports and concerts.

There is currently $473 million available for the project, from a mix of Crown and city council funding.

MICHAEL HAYWARD/STUFF
Diggers demolish some of the last buildings on Lichfield St, on the site planned for the Christchurch Stadium, in the weeks before the coronavirus restrictions came into effect.
Christchurch civic leaders hope the stadium could benefit from recently-announced Crown funding of up to $800m to be diverted from the Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) to stimulate the post-coronavirus economy through infrastructure projects.

SUPPLIED / CHRISTCHURCH CITY COUNCIL
The stadium is hoped to be "shovel-ready" by May 2021.
It is looking for projects that are ready to start construction now, or could have been ready to start by the end of May 2021, have employment benefits of more than $10m, and regional or national benefits.

However, even projects that meet the criteria may not gain additional funding, depending on how the Government decides to prioritise the PGF spending when the effects of coronavirus become clearer.

Council citizens and community general manager Mary Richardson said the stadium work was broken into two main streams: enabling work on site (site investigations and moving utilities) and the main work.

SUPPLIED
Slides showing the concept model for the Christchurch Stadium during the investment case.
She said the council was "proceeding at pace" with planning, but even if it was delayed due to Covid-19, it would not necessarily affect the main work timeline.

The council was working to find a consultant that could do a detailed site investigation once the lockdown lifted. This would involve looking for areas of contamination and testing the ground conditions.

Planning work to move services such as power, internet, telephone on the site were also under way.

SUPPLIED
Slides showing the concept model for different set-ups the Christchurch Stadium could be arranged into.
Council staff were working out what changes to the sewerage and stormwater system were needed, and what had to be done to traffic lights and intersections so the parts of Cashel and Lichfield streets that would become part of the stadium could be closed.

Work with Land Information NZ was looking at title amalgamations and easements.

Enabling works could start within six months under the current programme, but that would depend on coronavirus restrictions.

For the main works, council was preparing to go to tender for a contractor. The project is expected to be a design and build.

This involves coming up with a project management plan, works programme, and main works design brief.

Richardson said design of the main works was unlikely to start before February 2021, when enabling works were expected to be finished.

"'Shovel ready" is unlikely to be achieved until May 2021, and this will likely be restricted to ground improvement – stone columns and the like.

"Main construction on site is currently not expected until February 2022, though off-site fabrication will have commenced before then."

Council is meeting on Thursday to start a formal process which will change planning laws to manage or mitigate noise from the stadium for the area nearby. This is expected to take until March 2021.

Current planning laws require sound-deadening insulation for any residential units within 75 metres of the stadium site. It's not yet known what changes to these rules might look like.

The council is setting up a company to manage the build and is recruiting directors.

Richardson said appointments had not been made yet, but the process was "well under way".

The council had not yet chosen a name for the company.

The stadium build is expected to be finished by 2024.

A statement from Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones said the re-purposed PGF money would prioritise projects that "can provide initial economic support over the next two to six months and aid economic recovery longer term".

A spokeswoman for Jones said the Infrastructure Industry Reference Group was seeking information on projects that could be included before a list was given to ministers to consider.

"It will be up to the reference group to determine whether projects meet set criteria before the list is forwarded to ministers in early May," she said.

"It is too early to comment on the eligibility of individual projects."

 

[steeden.]

The Premier has just announced stage 1 of a 10,000 seat redevelopment of Browne Park in Rocky

The Palaszczuk Government has today committed $25 million towards delivering a 10,000-seat stadium at Rockhampton’s traditional home of football, Browne Park.

The announcement is a key initiative of the Central Queensland Regional Recovery Action Planunveiled by the Premier today to support the region’s economic recovery and to create local jobs.

Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said the funding will deliver the first phase of the Browne Park redevelopment, which in time would enable the ground to stage NRL games along with concerts and performances of international significance.

 

[Suitman]

Allianz update.

 

[Jamberoo]

The Premier has just announced stage 1 of a 10,000 seat redevelopment of Browne Park in Rocky

Last week the Federal Govt (via Pauline Hanson) announced a new $23m 10k stadium 500m away at the Sports Club.
https://www.austadiums.com/news/news.php?id=817
Seriously rediculous.

 

[LeagueXIII]

I can't remember if anyone has already posted this but there is also this happening in Christchurch NZ right now.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/b...stchurch-stadium-work-continues-amid-lockdown

Coronavirus: Christchurch Stadium work continues amid lockdown
Michael Hayward11:51, Apr 08 2020

Work on the long-awaited Christchurch Stadium continues despite coronavirus restrictions, with no delays predicted at this stage.

A 25,000-seat, mostly clear-roofed building was settled on after a long-running investment case. The Madras St facility will host a range of events, including sports and concerts.

There is currently $473 million available for the project, from a mix of Crown and city council funding.

MICHAEL HAYWARD/STUFF
Diggers demolish some of the last buildings on Lichfield St, on the site planned for the Christchurch Stadium, in the weeks before the coronavirus restrictions came into effect.
Christchurch civic leaders hope the stadium could benefit from recently-announced Crown funding of up to $800m to be diverted from the Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) to stimulate the post-coronavirus economy through infrastructure projects.

SUPPLIED / CHRISTCHURCH CITY COUNCIL
The stadium is hoped to be "shovel-ready" by May 2021.
It is looking for projects that are ready to start construction now, or could have been ready to start by the end of May 2021, have employment benefits of more than $10m, and regional or national benefits.

However, even projects that meet the criteria may not gain additional funding, depending on how the Government decides to prioritise the PGF spending when the effects of coronavirus become clearer.

Council citizens and community general manager Mary Richardson said the stadium work was broken into two main streams: enabling work on site (site investigations and moving utilities) and the main work.

SUPPLIED
Slides showing the concept model for the Christchurch Stadium during the investment case.
She said the council was "proceeding at pace" with planning, but even if it was delayed due to Covid-19, it would not necessarily affect the main work timeline.

The council was working to find a consultant that could do a detailed site investigation once the lockdown lifted. This would involve looking for areas of contamination and testing the ground conditions.

Planning work to move services such as power, internet, telephone on the site were also under way.

SUPPLIED
Slides showing the concept model for different set-ups the Christchurch Stadium could be arranged into.
Council staff were working out what changes to the sewerage and stormwater system were needed, and what had to be done to traffic lights and intersections so the parts of Cashel and Lichfield streets that would become part of the stadium could be closed.

Work with Land Information NZ was looking at title amalgamations and easements.

Enabling works could start within six months under the current programme, but that would depend on coronavirus restrictions.

For the main works, council was preparing to go to tender for a contractor. The project is expected to be a design and build.

This involves coming up with a project management plan, works programme, and main works design brief.

Richardson said design of the main works was unlikely to start before February 2021, when enabling works were expected to be finished.

"'Shovel ready" is unlikely to be achieved until May 2021, and this will likely be restricted to ground improvement – stone columns and the like.

"Main construction on site is currently not expected until February 2022, though off-site fabrication will have commenced before then."

Council is meeting on Thursday to start a formal process which will change planning laws to manage or mitigate noise from the stadium for the area nearby. This is expected to take until March 2021.

Current planning laws require sound-deadening insulation for any residential units within 75 metres of the stadium site. It's not yet known what changes to these rules might look like.

The council is setting up a company to manage the build and is recruiting directors.

Richardson said appointments had not been made yet, but the process was "well under way".

The council had not yet chosen a name for the company.

The stadium build is expected to be finished by 2024.

A statement from Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones said the re-purposed PGF money would prioritise projects that "can provide initial economic support over the next two to six months and aid economic recovery longer term".

A spokeswoman for Jones said the Infrastructure Industry Reference Group was seeking information on projects that could be included before a list was given to ministers to consider.

"It will be up to the reference group to determine whether projects meet set criteria before the list is forwarded to ministers in early May," she said.

"It is too early to comment on the eligibility of individual projects."

NZ has good stadiums everywhere. If league was part of the establishment we'd probably have decent stadiums for all the clubs now in Sydney. Look back over time and teams played in some real sub standard facilities.

 

[Perth Red]

NZ has good stadiums everywhere. If league was part of the establishment we'd probably have decent stadiums for all the clubs now in Sydney. Look back over time and teams played in some real sub standard facilities.

you don’t need to look back in time lol we’ve still got 5 of the 9 Sydney clubs playing at stadiums no where near modern stadia quality.

 

[forby]

And yet you keep saying that Penrith shouldn’t be upgraded!

 

[TheRam]

NZ has good stadiums everywhere. If league was part of the establishment we'd probably have decent stadiums for all the clubs now in Sydney. Look back over time and teams played in some real sub standard facilities.

Dunedin is the only stadium I would categorize as good in NZ, but cheap looking. The rest are either sh*t holes or not rectangular just like it used to be in Australia. Here in Oz we have started to address this now with Parra and N.QLD stadiums added to the already existing Suncorp and AAMI Park and soon to be built Moore Park Stadium.

With V'Landy on the case to have 2 or 3 more boutique suburban stadiums built we should be right in about 5 or so years. With only Canberra, hopefully still to get its City stadium funded and sorted.

But as for NZ this is the first rectangular quality stadium project that I have seen come to fruition since forever. Once it is up and running, the NRL would be mad not to look at Christchurch to enter the NRL as the 18th team.

As for Auckland's proposed City wharf Stadium project, it would be a game changer for the Warriors if it ever materialise, but I have my doubts since this has been going on for what nearly 20 years and no end in sight. The Kiwis are just as pathetic in addressing what is actually needed to complement and enhance the viewing experience for our Rugby codes and Soccer. They keep building these ridiculous not for purpose multi use stadiums that suit no one but Cricket in NZ.

Hopefully they have finally woken up to themselves with the build of this new Christchurch Stadium and start building what the vast majority of us have known forever and that is quality rectangular stadiums for rectangular sports. Period.

 

[greenBV4]

I know it costs a lot more and end of the day that would be a deciding factor but a dedicated sporting precinct, with an oval, rectangle, and arenas in the heart of a city is awesome, especially when a major event is on or multiple events at the same time. Its a great look for a city, provides better international recognition, is usually easier to get to, and is just a better all round experence in and out of the fit-for purpose stadium.

Melbourne has it spot on, sounds like Adelaide has the right idea as well, and Sydney is on track with SFS/SCG (although from what ive heard transport could still be better and it should've been even closer to the CBD)

Aint this beautiful? (and most importantly, convienent!)

 

[T-Boon]

When does the Yarra Creek ever look like that?

 

[greenBV4]

When does the Yarra Creek ever look like that?

Im guessing its edited haha

either that or since its taken from above and may have been a half decent day for browness it might be refecting the sky better?

but more likely its edited

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

I know it costs a lot more and end of the day that would be a deciding factor but a dedicated sporting precinct, with an oval, rectangle, and arenas in the heart of a city is awesome, especially when a major event is on or multiple events at the same time. Its a great look for a city, provides better international recognition, is usually easier to get to, and is just a better all round experence in and out of the fit-for purpose stadium.

Melbourne has it spot on, sounds like Adelaide has the right idea as well, and Sydney is on track with SFS/SCG (although from what ive heard transport could still be better and it should've been even closer to the SCG)

Aint this beautiful? (and most importantly, convienent!)
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Look how close that rail line is. If only they’d gone with that Allianz over Central Railway idea. I’m never gonna let that go.

 

[TheRam]

None of us should.

 

[Perth Red]

Yep, it’s not rocket science, build all your main sports facilities within walking distance of the city and with train and bus infrastructure to it. Hopefully when we have tennants worthy the wa govt will one day build a 30k rectangular stadium next door to Optus on the big patch of land they have left empty.
The adelaide rectangular stadium concept looks exciting if it ever happens. A floating pitch to make a roof and turn an outdoor rectangular stadium Into an indoor arena, that would be cool!

 

[mongoose]

Yep, it’s not rocket science, build all your main sports facilities within walking distance of the city and with train and bus infrastructure to it. Hopefully when we have tennants worthy the wa govt will one day build a 30k rectangular stadium next door to Optus on the big patch of land they have left empty.
The adelaide rectangular stadium concept looks exciting if it ever happens. A floating pitch to make a roof and turn an outdoor rectangular stadium Into an indoor arena, that would be cool!

problem is that Sydney CBD isn't central to Sydney like Melbourne, Adelaide and pretty much every other state capital.

 

[greenBV4]

problem is that Sydney CBD isn't central to Sydney like Melbourne, Adelaide and pretty much every other state capital.

Its probably the best/easiest location for EVERYONE in Sydney to get too though isn't it? most trains lines would end up at central eventually? (thats a question - i don't know)

plus most visitors to Sydney would be staying in or near the CBD, and the majority of corporate workers would work there

 

[Perth Red]

problem is that Sydney CBD isn't central to Sydney like Melbourne, Adelaide and pretty much every other state capital.

true but you’ve got 600k people a day going into the cbd and public transport all heading in there. If Sydney hadn’t hosted the Olympics allianz would still have been the main stadium. Unfortunately they built it in the wrong place and have just reinforced that poor decision by rebuilding in the same out of the way place.

 

[T-Boon]

The problem with the SFS/Moore Park and the city is the NRL don't work those areas very hard and have in some cases (Toes & Bears etc) given up.
All the RL fans seem to live at least a couple suburbs away from the city. They should have tried to get Parra stadium to 50k.