The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[AlwaysGreen]

Pretty impressive meltdown

 

[forby]

Even though he got done again it has ironically worked out for the best this titime

Doesn't work well for Penrith who lose out on a state of the art stadium to get a second rate upgrade of their existing ground.
Wonderful!!!!
It just screws the Penrith region once again!

 

[Vee]

See the plans 1st

We've seen plenty of plans go under, wait until it's done and we've been there a few times.

 

[baselinepanther]

No, you just don’t broadcast everything. You also don’t lacerate the government or other stakeholders in public no matter how you privately feel about them.

Essentially you don’t negotiate through the media - just say no comment or we have nothing to say at this point in time, move on and deal with it in private.

Even though he got done again it has ironically worked out for the best this time

when the media are saying you're incompetent & have egg on your face when infact ... you were diddled , you have a right to call out the facts

I think his rattling the cage got it done way quicker then if he'd sat back & copped it quietly, nothing would have been done with these stadiums for years otherwise

well done PVL

 

[baselinepanther]

Doesn't work well for Penrith who lose out on a state of the art stadium to get a second rate upgrade of their existing ground.
Wonderful!!!!
It just screws the Penrith region once again!

an upgrade of their existing ground was all they should have got
common sense finally

 

[baselinepanther]

And you have a totally anti penrith agenda. You have your Commbank and then say everybody else should get half arsed sub standard upgrades.

i have an anti pork barreling govt corruption , pro common sense .... agenda

 

[Iamback]

We've seen plenty of plans go under, wait until it's done and we've been there a few times.

That is the thing, until see the changes then really hard to say

 

[forby]

an upgrade of their existing ground was all they should have got
common sense finally

Who do you support?
Obviously not Penrith as your tag suggests.
You really sound like someone who says I've got my stadium stuff everybody else, just give them a few scraps to make it look ok.
The Penrith region deserves a new modern stadium and associated community facility as much as any other region, probably more so.

 

[Colk]

when the media are saying you're incompetent & have egg on your face when infact ... you were diddled , you have a right to call out the facts

I think his rattling the cage got it done way quicker then if he'd sat back & copped it quietly, nothing would have been done with these stadiums for years otherwise

well done PVL

They are saying that because it is true. A competent negotiator doesn’t get diddled. Naivety isn’t a strong point in any leader.

Also he is getting less than what he wanted here. He wanted the Penrith stadium to be built, not simply upgraded, thus he has been pushed towards the common sense position.

 

[baselinepanther]

Who do you support?
Obviously not Penrith as your tag suggests.
You really sound like someone who says I've got my stadium stuff everybody else, just give them a few scraps to make it look ok.
The Penrith region deserves a new modern stadium and associated community facility as much as any other region, probably more so.

i support the Raiders
we have our own stadium issues ...

Penrith doesn't deserve a stadium .. for themselves ... more then anyone else does
so unless everyone on Sydneys fringes gets a brand new venue ... which they won;t
then they all get upgrades

fairs fair

 

[westerntiger]

The plan should be to get these suburban grounds to all seater standard with small increases to capacity. They’re not each getting their own Commbank.

 

[Colk]

Doesn't work well for Penrith who lose out on a state of the art stadium to get a second rate upgrade of their existing ground.
Wonderful!!!!
It just screws the Penrith region once again!

Why does Penrith deserve a brand new stadium as a single tenant but Cronulla or Manly don’t? You either have to argue that all of them deserve a new stadium or that they all just get upgrades. You can’t pick and choose just because you happen to go for one of them.

You see how bias removes oneself from a logical viewpoint

 

[baselinepanther]

They are saying that because it is true. A competent negotiator doesn’t get diddled. Naivety isn’t a strong point in any leader.

Also he is getting less than what he wanted here. He wanted the Penrith stadium to be built, not simply upgraded, thus he has been pushed towards the common sense position.

its also true they reneged on a deal
firstly one in writing & 2ndly a verbal assurance

he was telling the truth & that has finally got him the best deal our code could have in the present environment
If we'd continued to cop it sweet like predecessors had & got nowhere ... then these next lot of upgrades wouldn't have happened any time soon

Also he is getting less than what he wanted here. He wanted the Penrith stadium to be built, not simply upgraded, thus he has been pushed towards the common sense position.

with what is on offer .. a lot less then the original plan .... but a lot more then nothing & .. the obvious floors in giving penrith a brand new stadium while several other clubs got nothing

he has negotiated the best possible outcome for the code in sydney

 

[Colk]

The plan should be to get these suburban grounds to all seater standard with small increases to capacity. They’re not each getting their own Commbank.

How many grounds though? Also, of course that was never going to happen (all nine sides having their own Commbank stadium)

 

[TheEroticGamer]

Personally I think the Tigers need a royal commission into their board more than governments continuously pumping cash into their dying club but it is what it is I guess.

 

[forby]

i support the Raiders
we have our own stadium issues ...

Penrith doesn't deserve a stadium .. for themselves ... more then anyone else does
so unless everyone on Sydneys fringes gets a brand new venue ... which they won;t
then they all get upgrades

fairs fair

So Canberra doesn't deserve a new stadium either? Fairs fair?
Penrith is more a region than a suburb like Manly or Cronulla. It encompasses Penrith City, Blue Mountains City, Hawkesbury Council, Blacktown City, and as far west as Lithgow and Bathurst.
The same way Canberra is a regional area and deservesa state of the art stadium.

 

[Perth Red]

Why does Penrith deserve a brand new stadium as a single tenant but Cronulla or Manly don’t? You either have to argue that all of them deserve a new stadium or that they all just get upgrades. You can’t pick and choose just because you happen to go for one of them.

You see how bias removes oneself from a logical viewpoint

Every nrl club should be playing in a state of the art stadiums, it’s not the 1970’s!
I’d rather penrth be the next to get one and eventually the others rather than chucking $100mill at sht holes like brookvale and shark park that won’t make them anything close to a modern stadium standard.

 

[westerntiger]

Personally I think the Tigers need a royal commission into their board more than governments continuously pumping cash into their dying club but it is what it is I guess.

Tigers should either go permanently to commbank or try and lobby for a Campbelltown upgrade and full time presence out there.

 

[Perth Red]

Tigers should either go permanently to commbank or try and lobby for a Campbelltown upgrade and full time presence out there.

But what about the 18th wonder or whatever dumb arse they call the dump at balmain.

 

[Colk]

Every nrl club should be playing in a state of the art stadiums, it’s not the 1970’s!
I’d rather penrth be the next to get one and eventually the others rather than chucking $100mill at sht holes like brookvale and shark park that won’t make them anything close to a modern stadium standard.

Sure but how likely is all that? The government isn’t going to spend the 4 -5 billion (give or take) it would need for every club in Sydney to have a Commbank type stadium, particularly in the short to medium term. Clubs in Sydney have to make some sort of concessions here, whether that be fully relocating to the better facilities at hand or at least their bigger games there.