The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Wb1234]

Gee you are an optimist. Lions crowds only reach over 30000 if they are in the top 4. Cricket is a diminishing sport and only gets good crowds against the right opposition. Those two factors will determine how often it’s over half full. Not your flight of fancy.

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[Jamberoo]

The only time the Gabba comes close to selling out is when the Ashes are on.

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The good thing about the construction of Brisbane Live Arena in Roma Street and the reconfiguration of the Gabba is it will cement Brisbane as Australia's premier city. Brisbane will have the country's best stadia for rugby league, rugby union, soccer, basketball and netball. The Gabba will shit all over the deprepit SCG.

Brisbane will be the only city in the world to host the Olympic Games, Goodwill Games and Commonwealth Games. That'll make the Victorians insecure.

We just need to get the NRL grand final to Lang Park as it's the spiritual home of rugby league. Sydney doesn't have an adequate stadium for the GF. SFS is too small with poor facilities -- the toilets don't work properly -- and Stadium Australia is a dump that provides a poor viewing experience for spectators.

Queensland will continue to produce Australia's best Olympians and rugby league players. The most financially viable rugby league clubs in the world will continue to be from Queensland. The weather up here is head and shoulders superior to the dreary rainy crap down south.

It's a great time to be a Queenslander. No wonder everyone from Sydney and Melbourne who has a brain continue to migrate to Brisbane.

That is not true. Gabba currently holds around 37k and was sold out for a couple of Lions games last year. And a number of cricket matches have been close to a sellout. AFL and cricket certainly don’t need 50k, but the ground needs work and the Olympics needs 50k. Attendances there will go up 20% just like they did when Perth and Adelaide got new stadiums.

You seem unhappy that the Gabba (AKA Brisbane Cricket Ground) is being rebuilt. Are you not a cricket fan? It will also give the NRL somewhere to play when Suncorp is upgraded down the track.

But you are right about one thing… Brisbane having held the Goodwill Games (whatever that is) has made us Victorians very insecure.

 

[azza29]

But you are right about one thing… Brisbane having held the Goodwill Games (whatever that is) has made us Victorians very insecure.

I guess we just get stuck with second-rate events like the F1 and Australian Open, they're no Goodwill Games, that's for sure.

 

[Wb1234]

Afl piggying backing off the true national sport for better grounds is sickening

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Afl piggying backing off the true national sport for better grounds is sickening

They utilise the same size grounds. Deal with it. I honestly don’t care

 

[Wb1234]

They utilise the same size grounds. Deal with it. I honestly don’t care

2.5 billion for a rugby league state when Suncorp is run down is sickening

this is after afl got 50 million in govt funds to build the lions a new base at Springfield and there were also allegations of fraud about missing funds

suncorp could do with a rebuild that would be more useful for qld

afl don’t need more leg ups

 

[Perth Red]

why is suncorp run down? Looked good last time I was there 4 years ago. Has it deteriorated so much in that time? Its only 20 years old in its current guise.

 

[Pneuma]

That is not true. Gabba currently holds around 37k and was sold out for a couple of Lions games last year. And a number of cricket matches have been close to a sellout. AFL and cricket certainly don’t need 50k, but the ground needs work and the Olympics needs 50k. Attendances there will go up 20% just like they did when Perth and Adelaide got new stadiums.

You seem unhappy that the Gabba (AKA Brisbane Cricket Ground) is being rebuilt. Are you not a cricket fan? It will also give the NRL somewhere to play when Suncorp is upgraded down the track.

But you are right about one thing… Brisbane having held the Goodwill Games (whatever that is) has made us Victorians very insecure.

You seem like an avid afl optimist. You do realise qld is a rugby league state don’t you? Afl crowds are unlikely to rise as it’s not very popular there.

 

[Wb1234]

why is suncorp run down? Looked good last time I was there 4 years ago. Has it deteriorated so much in that time? Its only 20 years old in its current guise.

Gabba had a development after Suncorp was done

total cost for the new lang park was only 280 million

as the premier sport of qld to have a stadium one tenth the cost of afl is a kick in the nuts

 

[MugaB]

why is suncorp run down? Looked good last time I was there 4 years ago. Has it deteriorated so much in that time? Its only 20 years old in its current guise.

Should we be asking @TheRam what he thinks of this blasphemy, every stadium need a rebuild at some point are going to wait for Suncorp to turn into what the SFS was, or should we pressure the govt to fund a rebuild, to get the QLDrs the state of the Art most Rugba Lieg stadium in the world

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

That is not true. Gabba currently holds around 37k and was sold out for a couple of Lions games last year. And a number of cricket matches have been close to a sellout. AFL and cricket certainly don’t need 50k, but the ground needs work and the Olympics needs 50k. Attendances there will go up 20% just like they did when Perth and Adelaide got new stadiums.

You seem unhappy that the Gabba (AKA Brisbane Cricket Ground) is being rebuilt. Are you not a cricket fan? It will also give the NRL somewhere to play when Suncorp is upgraded down the track.

But you are right about one thing… Brisbane having held the Goodwill Games (whatever that is) has made us Victorians very insecure.

The best attended AwFuL game at the Gabba last year was the Elimination Final between Brisbane and Richmond. It drew 35,103 people. The next best game was against Melbourne with an attendance of 32,172.

Can you really say that 32,172 is a sell out when the capacity is 36,000?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

I guess we just get stuck with second-rate events like the F1 and Australian Open, they're no Goodwill Games, that's for sure.

It's a health hazard holding tennis tournaments in Melbourne in January. Temperatures reach 40 degrees with hot dry winds from the desert travelling into Melbourne. The only reason the event is held there is because the Victorian Government wastes tax payer money on it and other unwanted events like the F1. It's the price Melbourne has to pay to be relevant. Melbourne is so desperate for relevance it pays for Origin.

Victoria has produced really shit tennis players who've failed to win a grand slam over the last 30 plus years. Grand slam champions like Rafter, Stosur and Barty are from Queensland.

 

[Perth Red]

Gabba had a development after Suncorp was done

total cost for the new lang park was only 280 million

as the premier sport of qld to have a stadium one tenth the cost of afl is a kick in the nuts

Again irrelevant, Gabba is ONLY getting rebuilt for the Olympics. No Olympics no money spent on Gabba. Not hard to understand.

To say Suncorp needs rebuilding solely because the Gabba is getting done for the Olympics is ludicrous. Suncorp remains one of the best rectangular stadiums in the country and wont need redoing for another 20 years plus.

 

[Wb1234]

Again irrelevant, Gabba is ONLY getting rebuilt for the Olympics. No Olympics no money spent on Gabba. Not hard to understand.

To say Suncorp needs rebuilding solely because the Gabba is getting done for the Olympics is ludicrous. Suncorp remains one of the best rectangular stadiums in the country and wont need redoing for another 20 years plus.

The idea of the bris Olympics was the infrastructure was already in place

this rebuild is about matching Perth and Adelaide

vlandys should be on the case with his hand out for the good of rugby league

 

[It's Been Done]

2.5 billion for a rugby league state when Suncorp is run down is sickening

this is after afl got 50 million in govt funds to build the lions a new base at Springfield and there were also allegations of fraud about missing funds

suncorp could do with a rebuild that would be more useful for qld

Gabba had a development after Suncorp was done

total cost for the new lang park was only 280 million

as the premier sport of qld to have a stadium one tenth the cost of afl is a kick in the nuts

Suncorp will get a refurb for the Olympics, most likely before the 2027 RWC as it's approaching 20 years old and is slipping behind Sydney's Allianz and Perth's Optus Stadium. The refurb will likely be similar in scope to the Shane Warne Stand refurbishment at the MCG in 2011-13. With the exception of the Western Stand, Suncorp's stands would have about 30-40 years of life left though a rebuild of the former would be difficult and likely unpopular with residents and businesses that would be acquired or right on the doorstep of the stadium as Castlemaine Street is right behind it.

The original Gabba rebuild cost $128 million in stages over 12 years starting in 1993. Compare that to Geelong's Kardinia Park which is still being rebuilt in stages since 2004 cost a total of $319 million

 

[Perth Red]

The idea of the bris Olympics was the infrastructure was already in place

this rebuild is about matching Perth and Adelaide

vlandys should be on the case with his hand out for the good of rugby league

haha and you believed the line about only needing $900mill to host it? Was always going to be an opportunity for Qlnd Govt to leverage money into stadiums and infrastructure.

No, its about creating a shiny thing to show the world.
But yeh Gabba is now a long way behind the other smaller cities ovals. Suncorp still betters any rectangular stadium in the country except Allianz.

Major works will only happen if we ever win a soccer WC.

 

[Wb1234]

haha and you believed the line about only needing $900mill to host it? Was always going to be an opportunity for Qlnd Govt to leverage money into stadiums and infrastructure.

No, its about creating a shiny thing to show the world.
But yeh Gabba is now a long way behind the other smaller cities ovals. Suncorp still betters any rectangular stadium in the country except Allianz.

Major works will only happen if we ever win a soccer WC.

So if it’s an opportunity to leverage money into stadia then why not more into rugby league stadia.

the reality is they could rebuild the Gabba at 30k capacity and it would be fine for cricket and afl

wonder how much rent the lions will pay

the broncos pay 4 million for a stadium costing 280 million and shared with up to 3 other tenants

somehow I don’t see the lions paying rent of 40 million pa

can you imagine the uproar if wa spent 2.5 billion on a rectangular stadium whilst they left the afl sides to play in a stadia of 280 million

Suncorp is surpassed by allianz commbank cowboys and new panthers stadium

 

[Yosemite Sam]

Gabba is a dump compared to our other cricket grounds (other than SCG). A rebuild is a massive win for cricket. Which after all, is our national sport.

Funny you say that. You could argue the SCG is the only true cricket ground left in Australia.

 

[Perth Red]

So if it’s an opportunity to leverage money into stadia then why not more into rugby league stadia.

the reality is they could rebuild the Gabba at 30k capacity and it would be fine for cricket and afl

wonder how much rent the lions will pay

the broncos pay 4 million for a stadium costing 280 million and shared with up to 3 other tenants

somehow I don’t see the lions paying rent of 40 million pa

can you imagine the uproar if wa spent 2.5 billion on a rectangular stadium whilst they left the afl sides to play in a stadia of 280 million

Suncorp is surpassed by allianz commbank cowboys and new panthers stadium

Because
A) its not needed for the Olympics
B) Suncorp is still the second best rectangular stadium in the country. Those other stadiums are not bigger or better. They'll keep improving it, just got new big screens in, for another 20 years or so then will look at what they do with it. Most stadiums have a 40-50 year shelf life.

A 30k stadium isnt fit to host an Olympic games lol

You're still chasing AFL shadows lol. They really do live rent free in your head!

 

[Steel Saints]

haha and you believed the line about only needing $900mill to host it? Was always going to be an opportunity for Qlnd Govt to leverage money into stadiums and infrastructure.

No, its about creating a shiny thing to show the world.
But yeh Gabba is now a long way behind the other smaller cities ovals. Suncorp still betters any rectangular stadium in the country except Allianz.

Major works will only happen if we ever win a soccer WC.

Then again, Suncorp was built without the need for the men’s World Cup or Olympics.