The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Timbo]

I suppose it depends what they are building exactly, if its just stands and seating then it should be basic, but if its new dressing rooms, corporate suites, new kitchens for food outlets, toilets and the plumbing that goes with it all.. it can rack up, but shit yeah 300 mill, would easily get a new stadium built from scratch... must be a shithouse developer, overcharging the govt..
I remember gus mentioning that they had one of the ex-panther player, who studied (i think it was engineering) during his time at the panthers, never really kicked on as a player, but ended being a big time developer, he ended building the acedemy for the club, built it from scratch, how they wanted it, did it for unders too, coz he could, and was happy to do it as gratitude... i wouldn't be surprised if he is at belmore as we speak

Not to mention CBUS was a greenfield site, Penrith will require demolition and removal of the old stuff - which isn’t cheap.

 

[Wb1234]

some

The problem is we fill it now, Not sure only adding 2k General Public seating is enough. $300m for very few extra seats. As with all these things... the little guys get shafted

Bad luck corporates pay the bills

and beer and family hill they sure put a lot of thought into those names

 

[Wb1234]

I suppose it depends what they are building exactly, if its just stands and seating then it should be basic, but if its new dressing rooms, corporate suites, new kitchens for food outlets, toilets and the plumbing that goes with it all.. it can rack up, but shit yeah 300 mill, would easily get a new stadium built from scratch... must be a shithouse developer, overcharging the govt..
I remember gus mentioning that they had one of the ex-panther player, who studied (i think it was engineering) during his time at the panthers, never really kicked on as a player, but ended being a big time developer, he ended building the acedemy for the club, built it from scratch, how they wanted it, did it for unders too, coz he could, and was happy to do it as gratitude... i wouldn't be surprised if he is at belmore as we speak

Property developer Lou Zivanovic lists Bilgola trophy

Former Penrith Panther turned multi-millionaire property developer Lou Zivanovic has listed his luxury home on the Northern Beaches. Zivanovic developed the Bilgola Beach home having paid $3.3 mi...

www.urban.com.au

Still appears to have strong connections with the panthers as per this

 

[Timbo]

some

Bad luck corporates pay the bills

and beer and family hill they sure put a lot of thought into those names

I feel like there are a lot of people who really don’t understand that capacity for regular fans and their viewing experience is such a tiny, tiny part of modern stadium design it’s not funny.

When CommBank opened there were a lot of complaints about the Western Side being all the corporate seats and the regular seating being on the East looking into the sun.

Well, duh. Every one of those corporates is paying 20 times what you’re paying to sit on a plastic seat and watch the game. Of course they’re getting the premium experience.

It’s the same deal with hills. People talk about the atmosphere, the family friendly nature, etc. The clubs do. not. care. about any of that, because they know if they can get money to replace them with seats they can charge more money for them. Even if they get a smaller crowd, they’ll make more money.

The clubs don’t care about you or your experience at the game. They just want to move as much money from your bank account to theirs as quickly as possible.

 

[Wb1234]

 

[TheRam]

Beer Hill is the bottom.

Family Hill will stay, The kids love it and it gives the ground an individual look

As individual as all the other bullsh*t hills in the NRL comp has had forever.

Hills are for ants. 21st century humans like to sit on seats that are plush, out of the elements and have all the mod cons the 21st century has to offer.

Wake up and joint the right century mate. $300m should be an all seater and under cover. Period!

 

[Jamberoo]

As individual as all the other bullsh*t hills in the NRL comp has had forever.

Hills are for ants. 21st century humans like to sit on seats that are plush, out of the elements and have all the mod cons the 21st century has to offer.

Wake up and joint the right century mate. $300m should be an all seater and under cover. Period!

Are grass hills peculiar to Sydney? Beside there and Sunshine Coast, is there any other major or even minor stadium with a grass hill? Adelaide Oval has terraced standing room, but I can’t think of any other hills. If you are bringing a rug and watching a whole day of local cricket in summer I get why you might want to sit on grass, but from an outsiders point of view if seems a very strange way to watch rugby league. MCG has 5000 capacity of terraced standing room which is the cheap way to fit more fans. Do many people stand at NRL games In Sydney?

 

[shewi6]

Are grass hills peculiar to Sydney? Beside there and Sunshine Coast, is there any other major or even minor stadium with a grass hill? Adelaide Oval has terraced standing room, but I can’t think of any other hills. If you are bringing a rug and watching a whole day of local cricket in summer I get why you might want to sit on grass, but from an outsiders point of view if seems a very strange way to watch rugby league. MCG has 5000 capacity of terraced standing room which is the cheap way to fit more fans. Do many people stand at NRL games In Sydney?

Adelaide oval had a hill section i thought.
Plenty of local grounds in Brisbane had/have hills including lang park, difference is the brisbane clubs didn't form the 'national' competition so we dont see those grounds aside from dolphin oval which until recently was all hill.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Are grass hills peculiar to Sydney? Beside there and Sunshine Coast, is there any other major or even minor stadium with a grass hill? Adelaide Oval has terraced standing room, but I can’t think of any other hills. If you are bringing a rug and watching a whole day of local cricket in summer I get why you might want to sit on grass, but from an outsiders point of view if seems a very strange way to watch rugby league. MCG has 5000 capacity of terraced standing room which is the cheap way to fit more fans. Do many people stand at NRL games In Sydney?

I think the climate is part of it with our relatively fine, dry winters. Compare NZ where you find grass hills at cricket grounds, but not that much at Rugby/League grounds - even the older, more basic stadiums there tend to have concrete terracing instead of grass hills.

 

[Iamback]

As individual as all the other bullsh*t hills in the NRL comp has had forever.

Hills are for ants. 21st century humans like to sit on seats that are plush, out of the elements and have all the mod cons the 21st century has to offer.

Wake up and joint the right century mate. $300m should be an all seater and under cover. Period!

You aren't getting that for $300m though especially not on that site. The moment they paceway site was killed. There were always going to be a Hill or Hills, I am surprised they are actually moving the sewage pipes to allow a Southern Stand to be built

 

[Pneuma]

Are grass hills peculiar to Sydney? Beside there and Sunshine Coast, is there any other major or even minor stadium with a grass hill? Adelaide Oval has terraced standing room, but I can’t think of any other hills. If you are bringing a rug and watching a whole day of local cricket in summer I get why you might want to sit on grass, but from an outsiders point of view if seems a very strange way to watch rugby league. MCG has 5000 capacity of terraced standing room which is the cheap way to fit more fans. Do many people stand at NRL games In Sydney?

I’ve told this story before but my wife and I went to Leichhardt to watch a game on a wet night. Couldn’t get into the undercover ‘stands’, didn’t want to sit in the exposed termite ridden seats so stood on the hill at one of the ends. On the main hill they had to cordon a large section off because people kept slipping over. A kind soul gave my wife an umbrella. I just stood there and drank as much beer as possible to get through the experience. Great game. Shit experience. I hope that helps.

 

[Iamback]

some

Bad luck corporates pay the bills

and beer and family hill they sure put a lot of thought into those names

What non Sporting events do you see at CommBank?

That is where too many corporates went is now not viable for other events, Especially when you compare to Allianz

 

[Wb1234]

What non Sporting events do you see at CommBank?

That is where too many corporates went is now not viable for other events, Especially when you compare to Allianz

Odd concert

parra are making a killing off the corporate boxes though

https://wsbc.org.au/resources/Documents/Private%20Suite%20Flyer.pdf

Prices from 300 to 1000 pp

 

[Iamback]

Odd concert

parra are making a killing off the corporate boxes though

https://wsbc.org.au/resources/Documents/Private%20Suite%20Flyer.pdf

The odd one was before Allianz was built, Nothing since.

Would they be making any less with the open air style on the other side though.

Penrith should be 27k or it is a total waste of money, It is even more so if not setup to appeal to other events. Particularly with a 5 Star hotel and a 3.5 star one across the road

 

[Wb1234]

The odd one was before Allianz was built, Nothing since.

Would they be making any less with the open air style on the other side though.

Penrith should be 27k or it is a total waste of money, It is even more so if not setup to appeal to other events. Particularly with a 5 Star hotel and a 3.5 star one across the road

Corporates don’t want open air

it’s a huge reason why alllianz was redone was poor corporates

long run if you don’t do it it’ll be harder to compete with clubs like parra which do

since the money is limited the plebs have to miss out

rugby league is a business

 

[Suitman]

Odd concert

parra are making a killing off the corporate boxes though

https://wsbc.org.au/resources/Documents/Private%20Suite%20Flyer.pdf

Prices from 300 to 1000 pp

You and Lamback are as dumb as dogshit.
Parramatta leases the stadium for their games from Venues NSW.
Yes, we might make money on Eels games from the corporate areas, but it isn't OUR stadium.
The Wanderers also lease the stadium from Venues NSW and have to do what they can to sell corporate areas to make money. As do the Tigers or any other team that plays there.
Any concerts or other events held there are also leased from Venues NSW. None of these other events have anything to do with the Eels.
We make what we can for the 11 Eels games a season for which we pay rent for. Nothing more.
I repeat, it isn't our stadium at all.

 

[Wb1234]

You and Lamback are as dumb as dogshit.
Parramatta leases the stadium for their games from Venues NSW.
Yes, we might make money on Eels games from the corporate areas, but it isn't OUR stadium.
The Wanderers also lease the stadium from Venues NSW and have to do what they can to sell corporate areas to make money. As do the Tigers or any other team that plays there.
Any concerts or other events held there are also leased from Venues NSW. None of these other events have anything to do with the Eels.
We make what we can for the 11 Eels games a season for which we pay rent for. Nothing more.
I repeat, it isn't our stadium at all.

The stadium is in parramatta

unlike win stadium this is in Sydney

 

[Wb1234]

Crazy this cost like 20 million. Bears would’ve filled it out

 

[Suitman]

The stadium is in parramatta

So what?
Did you just ignore every other point I made? Clearly, yes.
I'll repeat it for the dummy.
It is NOT our stadium. It just happens to be our home ground which we have to pay to play at. Just like the Wanderers, the Matildas, Rugby and Elton John and so many other events have to.

Is Allianz the Roosters stadium?
The answer again is no. Just like Sydney FC, the Waratahs, and any concert has to hire the stadium.
It just happens to be their home ground and they too have to pay to play at that stadium.
The Sharks are the only team that actually own a home ground and don't have to worry about this shit

Just stfu and be thankful that Penrith (The country town, not the team) is getting gifted a $300 million upgrade, with no other tenants to actually justify this political spend, like the other two grounds actually justified.
You might actually find that it won't be Penrith's home ground as well. You'll have to rent it from the govt if Venues NSW take over, which they should with this amount of spend.

 

[Iamback]

You and Lamback are as dumb as dogshit.
Parramatta leases the stadium for their games from Venues NSW.
Yes, we might make money on Eels games from the corporate areas, but it isn't OUR stadium.
The Wanderers also lease the stadium from Venues NSW and have to do what they can to sell corporate areas to make money. As do the Tigers or any other team that plays there.
Any concerts or other events held there are also leased from Venues NSW. None of these other events have anything to do with the Eels.
We make what we can for the 11 Eels games a season for which we pay rent for. Nothing more.
I repeat, it isn't our stadium at all.

Where did I say Parra made the money from the Stadium directly?

I was merely using that setup of purely one side corporates as an example for what not to do