The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Russell Crowe's Band]

so i looked it up.
15.6 million


but that wouldnt buy you spit it todays landscape

 

[bazza]

So I think with the current NRL teams the priorities should be (with Penrith assumed redone)

High priority

Canberra - new rectangular stadium closer to town with better crowd cover
Auckland - need a Suncorp style stadium either at Eden Park or closer to town and a smaller cricket only ground
Homebush - rebuilt with rectangular field and better viewing with "club mode" for 30-40k

Next
Brookvale - new main grandstand - maybe another on the eastern side
Shark Park - something to get another 5k seats
Wollongong - new main grandstand with an extra 5k seats and more Dragons home games

Next
Newcastle - another 5 - 10k capacity

 

[jim_57]

So I think with the current NRL teams the priorities should be (with Penrith assumed redone)

High priority

Canberra - new rectangular stadium closer to town with better crowd cover
Auckland - need a Suncorp style stadium either at Eden Park or closer to town and a smaller cricket only ground
Homebush - rebuilt with rectangular field and better viewing with "club mode" for 30-40k

Next
Brookvale - new main grandstand - maybe another on the eastern side
Shark Park - something to get another 5k seats
Wollongong - new main grandstand with an extra 5k seats and more Dragons home games

Next
Newcastle - another 5 - 10k capacity

Needing upgrades or a new stadiums. In rough order of priority but they should all be being looked at.

1. Raiders - New Stadium needed.
2. Warriors - Find a way to get another 5-10k in to Mt Smart. Eventually move to the new stadium if one ever gets built, waterfront 50k option perfect.
3. Sea Eagles - A couple of new stands to get it to 25k eventually. UFC plan is ambitious but at least they’re trying things.
4. Newcastle - An end stand or 2, at least one end 2 tiers like the East & West, preferably get the capacity to 40k give or take.
5. Dragons - Wollongong needs work, proposed plan is new north stand, lower east stand to keep sea view and new southern stand. SFS & Kogarah for Sydney as good as they’re going to get.
6. Tigers - Upgrades to Campbelltown for 25k or share the Dog’s Liverpool plan below or Accor if it gets rebuilt.
7. Bulldogs - New 45k stadium at Liverpool is their plan. That or rebuilt rectangular Accor.
8. Sharks - Wedge another 5k capacity in there somewhere somehow. Only last because they won’t get much/any government funding.

Sorted for now, but in order of who may need upgrades soonest.
9. Broncos - Upgrade of Suncorp coming for Olympics (pending election result).
10. Storm - If crowds keep growing might be stretching AAMI Park’s limit in 10 years or so.
11. Panthers - Pending upgrades but could do further staged upgrades in the future.
12-17. Cowboys, Dolphins, Titans, Eels, Roosters, Rabbitohs (Pending move to Allianz). - All sorted for the foreseeable.

 

[Wb1234]

We need to copy the kiwis and start building rectangular roofed stadia around 30 to 40k capacity

not just for crowds but to improve the standard of footy in winter

 

[bazza]

We need to copy the kiwis and start building rectangular roofed stadia around 30 to 40k capacity

not just for crowds but to improve the standard of footy in winter

Is that an issue in Brisbane and the Gold Coast (besides the standard of the Titans)

 

[bazza]

5. Dragons - Wollongong needs work, proposed plan is new north stand, lower east stand to keep sea view and new southern stand. SFS & Kogarah for Sydney as good as they’re going to get.
6. Tigers - Upgrades to Campbelltown for 25k or share the Dog’s Liverpool plan below or Accor if it gets rebuilt.
7. Bulldogs - New 45k stadium at Liverpool is their plan. That or rebuilt rectangular Accor.

Agree with Dragons and Wollongong. Think there future is 8 games at Wollongong and 4 at SFS. Think Kogarah has had its day as it doesn't seem popular enough with fans to get any more improvements

For Tigers and Dogs ideally they play at rectangular Homebush with improved transport links within 10 years. Dogs can play a couple at Belmore and Tigers maybe 4 at Campbelltown

 

[jim_57]

We need to copy the kiwis and start building rectangular roofed stadia around 30 to 40k capacity

not just for crowds but to improve the standard of footy in winter

Canberra would be the ideal candidate for that. Unfortunately I think the current government pretty much ruled out a roof.

 

[Panfas]

Penrith Stadium scoping plans - https://majorprojects.planningporta...ttachRef=SSD-68292713!20240306T033432.100 GMT

 

[Wb1234]

Penrith Stadium scoping plans - https://majorprojects.planningportal.nsw.gov.au/prweb/PRRestService/mp/01/getContent?AttachRef=SSD-68292713!20240306T033432.100 GMT

Grand stand on the left set back too far from the field

other grand stand looks very basic

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Suburban grounds need to find private funding if they want upgrades.

 

[bazza]

Suburban grounds need to find private funding if they want upgrades.

most are owned by councils - but pretty much yes unless it is for use by the wider community

 

[jim_57]

Agree with Dragons and Wollongong. Think there future is 8 games at Wollongong and 4 at SFS. Think Kogarah has had its day as it doesn't seem popular enough with fans to get any more improvements

For Tigers and Dogs ideally they play at rectangular Homebush with improved transport links within 10 years. Dogs can play a couple at Belmore and Tigers maybe 4 at Campbelltown

Agree with 8-4 or 9-3 split for the Dragons.

Tigers & Dogs are the ones that have a few options. Whilst I think a rectangular Homebush should happen I doubt it will any time soon. Liverpool would work for both if they could get on the same page. Campbelltown for the Tigers has potential if they move more games there and push for upgrades with the A-League team.

 

[bazza]

Agree with 8-4 or 9-3 split for the Dragons.

Tigers & Dogs are the ones that have a few options. Whilst I think a rectangular Homebush should happen I doubt it will any time soon. Liverpool would work for both if they could get on the same page. Campbelltown for the Tigers has potential if they move more games there and push for upgrades with the A-League team.

would be happy with Tigers doing 6/6 with upgraded Campbelltown and rectangular Homebush
Think chances of Homebush rebuild are at least the same as a new Liverpool stadium

 

[Steel Saints]

Suburban grounds need to find private funding if they want upgrades.

Yep, if Penrith want to complete the stadium, then they need to look towards private funding. Manly is talking to developers and the UFC. Tbf to Manly, they are trying to upgrade Brookie.

Canterbury, with their piece of land, is attempting to get a stadium out at Liverpool, while with the Sharks, I am not so sure. At the moment, Cronulla is aiming to open up their leagues club.

 

[Perth Red]

Expecting a state govt to fund 10 stadiums in one city is asking a bit much. Good on Manly for trying to find alternative sources.

 

[Canard]

Its weird that people are getting horned up over a Union stadium being built in Christchurch.

 

[jim_57]

Suburban grounds need to find private funding if they want upgrades.

Seems Manly have seen the writing on the wall with that. Bulldogs too pushing their own option that from memory they claim will require no government funding, which is probably too good to be true but who knows.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Yep, if Penrith want to complete the stadium, then they need to look towards private funding. Manly is talking to developers and the UFC. Tbf to Manly, they are trying to upgrade Brookie.

Canterbury, with their piece of land, is attempting to get a stadium out at Liverpool, while with the Sharks, I am not so sure. At the moment, Cronulla is aiming to open up their leagues club.

Apparently (Shire talk) the Sharks are trying to sell their ground to council on the condition it gets a reno/upgrade?

 

[Steel Saints]

would be happy with Tigers doing 6/6 with upgraded Campbelltown and rectangular Homebush
Think chances of Homebush rebuild are at least the same as a new Liverpool stadium

I reckon that's the Tigers best option. The thing is we don't teams to completely abandon Homebush, otherwise Sydney will never get a large rectangular venue. Souths can move back to SFS, which leaves the Dogs with 11 or 12 games (one at Belmore?), and the Tigers with 6.

 

[jim_57]

I reckon that's the Tigers best option. The thing is we don't teams to completely abandon Homebush, otherwise Sydney will never get a large rectangular venue. Souths can move back to SFS, which leaves the Dogs with 11 or 12 games (one at Belmore?), and the Tigers with 6.

The main push for a rectangular Accor needs to come from the NRL and a couple of its clubs. FFA & RA probably don’t care all that much as they don’t use it for club games and can sell 80k tickets there occasionally for big internationals regardless of it’s shape. The AFL will push back on any plans again too even if they don’t do it publicly.

Problem is NRL actively moved away from that push in favour of a suburban strategy that has since resulted in a half-upgrade of Penrith and not much else. Current government isn’t interested in anything to do with stadiums either since it was a part of their election campaign.

The longer it goes the more likely tenants/potential tenants Bulldogs, Tigers & Souths find another solution for their long term home. Souths have made no secret about wanting to go to Allianz, Bulldogs are pushing their own option in Liverpool and Tigers’ latest idea seems to be focusing on Campbelltown.