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Tigerm

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Yesterday I wrote that he was immature and I guess a large percentage of 19 year olds are. From his own statement and I will just take it that it is his own words, he might be actually very mature with something elite sports people must have, confidence to do well.

The quote:

"I totally understand my decision will frustrate many Wests Tigers fans, but please know that it wasn't an easy call to make," Galvin said in his statement on Tuesday - pretty mature

"The biggest reason why I made this call now is so that the Wests Tigers have enough time to plan their roster without me in the future. That's the absolute truth of it. pretty mature BUT gee there's a big ego there.

"I could've mulled over this decision all season, but I didn't think that was the right thing to do. po he hasn't let the decision get to him and his efforts have been commendable IMO.

"I thought it would be best for everyone to make the call now rather than drag it out." pretty mature - now he can just f^(k off - thanks for coming.
I don't mind any player leaving, but trashing the club or the management that gave him his chance, is not on.
At this stage of his career, he wouldn't deserve to walk in the coaches shadow.
Either his ego or someone got into his head, thinking he is already an immortal.
It's all bullshit and I also don't think he wrote these words.
 

Tiger Ted

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I don't mind any player leaving, but trashing the club or the management that gave him his chance, is not on.
At this stage of his career, he wouldn't deserve to walk in the coaches shadow.
Either his ego or someone got into his head, thinking he is already an immortal.
It's all bullshit and I also don't think he wrote these words.
It’s less the kids ego & predominantly the machinations of his demonic manager.We are well placed to teach the grub IM a lesson coz his client isn’t costing us much
 

Tigerm

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What I can't get my head around is why do we need player managers.
If your a gun player, your not going to have trouble finding clubs wanting your services. It would be the other way round.
Why give a huge chunk of your income to a person who is not productive and as we saw the other day, sometimes doesn't have the players welffare in mind.
His parents could have acted on his behalf. One does have to be registered to be an manager/agent but that can't be hard to obtain. (I think the prerequisite is being able to make a mark for a signature, like an X.
I see manager agents having a purpose when the player is average and needs to have someone who knows where there is a need for his services and knows all the CEOs ect.
Managers like Moses are becoming too powerful and are dictating to clubs what, who, how and when things can be done.

Player's are entitled to representation. Fact is a number of players are not "rocket scientists" and if left to their own devices would be exploited by some clubs. That's been shown time and again in various sports over decades.

The issue can be, like this one, where the Player Manager blows so much smoke up his client's butt that he carries on like he's the second coming of Joey Johns or Wally Lewis and wants everything under the sun despite have done little to merit it.
 

Tigerm

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Player's are entitled to representation. Fact is a number of players are not "rocket scientists" and if left to their own devices would be exploited by some clubs. That's been shown time and again in various sports over decades.

The issue can be, like this one, where the Player Manager blows so much smoke up his client's butt that he carries on like he's the second coming of Joey Johns or Wally Lewis and wants everything under the sun despite have done little to merit it.
The NRL could have a standard contract, with lawyer representation available before signings or for disputes afterwards.
 
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Yesterday I wrote that he was immature and I guess a large percentage of 19 year olds are. From his own statement and I will just take it that it is his own words, he might be actually very mature with something elite sports people must have, confidence to do well.

The quote:

"I totally understand my decision will frustrate many Wests Tigers fans, but please know that it wasn't an easy call to make," Galvin said in his statement on Tuesday - pretty mature

"The biggest reason why I made this call now is so that the Wests Tigers have enough time to plan their roster without me in the future. That's the absolute truth of it. pretty mature BUT gee there's a big ego there.

"I could've mulled over this decision all season, but I didn't think that was the right thing to do. po he hasn't let the decision get to him and his efforts have been commendable IMO.

"I thought it would be best for everyone to make the call now rather than drag it out." pretty mature - now he can just f^(k off - thanks for coming.
There is no way he wrote that statement. Young people like him would never use a phrase like 'mull over' this was written by someone much older than him who actually paid attention in class, rather than just play footy.
 

Nutz

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Player's are entitled to representation. Fact is a number of players are not "rocket scientists" and if left to their own devices would be exploited by some clubs. That's been shown time and again in various sports over decades.

The issue can be, like this one, where the Player Manager blows so much smoke up his client's butt that he carries on like he's the second coming of Joey Johns or Wally Lewis and wants everything under the sun despite have done little to merit it.
Yes I agree strongly with this.
Read my other posts about apprenticeships and the RLPA.
Players, especially young lads, need councilling and contract guidance more than a money grub so your comments would be met.
Imo, society is always looking for the easy way out and is an entitled one. People want more and more money from you without having a real concern for your needs, it's more about the manager and players wants.
 

Tigerm

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They use a std form with attachments. I posted one ages ago Tm. That's sort of similar to what your saying
Yes, I know, but my point is, they should provide independent legal advice free to players (especially U/21 players) so they can hear another voice and not just rely on their managers.
There should be no way a kid should be put into this situation, where it's very much sounding like a vendetta against the coach by a player manager.
Trying to dictate terms nearly 2 years out from his contract being finished, is ridiculous and damaging to the kids career.
Worse case for him now is, he gets a career ending injury (I hope he doesn't), which then leaves him with nothing.
 
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Das Hassler

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They should calm it all down...get them back on speaking terms and keep him as backup for Latu. There's no pressure to go along with any commentator's shouts of "untenable...has to go now" we absolutely should be bolting the door shut untill Moses brings an offer that advantages us and that WE might entertain...he has a long time to come up with one so he can take his sweet costing money time..Richo holds all the cards ...to hell with the outside advice/ noise!
 

Nutz

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Yes, I know, but my point is, they should provide independent legal advice free to players (especially U/21 players) so they can hear another voice and not just rely on their managers.
There should be no way a kid should be put into this situation, where it's very much sounding like a vendetta against the coach by a player manager.
Trying to dictate terms nearly 2 years out from his contract being finished, is ridiculous and damaging to the kids career.
Worse case for him now is, he gets a career ending injury (I hope he doesn't), which then leaves him with nothing.
I'm agreeing with you. I'm just adding to it. The apprenticeship prepares them for everything and the RLPA to provide councelling/guidance.
They also can, with a fee, oversee the contract from a registered qualified member of that org. This way there are no Moses type grubs and the RLPA remain open, transparent and un biased to all clubs. They can be audited too.
 

twinkletoes

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Bullfrog Gould is the puppeteer orchestrating all this in the media, to the point now of pretending to have concerns for Galvin's mental welfare while all the while getting a contract ready in his back pocket...he is absolutely evil and a blight on the game. He is basically running his recruitment campaign in the media...a dog
 
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There is no way he wrote that statement. Young people like him would never use a phrase like 'mull over' this was written by someone much older than him who actually paid attention in class, rather than just play footy.
I truly thought I added a sarcastic emoji thingy - but I certainly missed the 'mull over' not only does a 19 year old speak that way, but a 29, 39, 49 or 59 year old would rarely use it. Good pick up.
 
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The NRL could have a standard contract, with lawyer representation available before signings or for disputes afterwards.

The NRL do have a standard contract.

Lawyer representation though, if it was paid for by the NRL, then any half competent lawyer would get the contract quashed as the lawyer wouldn't be considered "independent" of the employer, as their fiduciary responsibility wouldn't be to the player, it would be to the NRL. That lack of counsel of the choice of the player is what lead to a number of player contracts being successfully challenged in court and ultimately quashed during the Super League era (e.g. Jarrod McCracken, Dean Pay, Jason Smith and Jim Dymock).
 
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