Game of Thrones II

[Walt Flanigan]

Well the Night’s King isn’t supposed to be the first White Walker so I’m not sure the one that was made in Bran’s vision was him.

But I’m sure there was a bit more to it than the dragon glass. But I don’t think the White Walkers being created to stop man from wiping at the children is such a bad thing.

 

[McNulty]

Well the Night?s King isn?t supposed to be the first White Walker so I?m not sure the one that was made in Bran?s vision was him.

But I?m sure there was a bit more to it than the dragon glass. But I don?t think the White Walkers being created to stop man from wiping at the children is such a bad thing.

I didn't think so either.

I am not sure what people expect?

 

[saint.nick]

I am 90% sure that the guy who is the first white walker is the night king. They have the same eyes and facial structure. Or maybe they just used him for budgetary reasons.

 

[Walt Flanigan]

I am 90% sure that the guy who is the first white walker is the night king. They have the same eyes and facial structure. Or maybe they just used him for budgetary reasons.

The TV show might go that way. But the story in the books had him around after the Wall was constructed and was rumored to be a former Stark. That's like an Old Nan story though and not exactly fact in the books.

 

[the_flight_of_the_magpie]

what if Bran is the many faced god?

 

[Walt Flanigan]

what if Bran is the many faced god?

How would that work?

 

[God-King Dean]

Well, I don't see anything in the TV series as lore as relation to ASOIAF

Willis was just kicked in the head by horse & started saying Hodor. Perhaps that will be revealed in the next book, but I doubt it.

 

[Game_Breaker]

I look forward to seeing zombie Hodor

Well, I don't see anything in the TV series as lore as relation to ASOIAF

Willis was just kicked in the head by horse & started saying Hodor. Perhaps that will be revealed in the next book, but I doubt it.

D&D confirmed the Hodor reveal was straight from GRRM, skip to 5:13

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[saint.nick]

Yeah, and it'd be unlike GRRM to go for such a boring explanation.

 

[Chook]

Time paradox's are the fastest way to f**k up a film, show or book.

I hope they keep this shit to an absolute minimum or it increases the potentail to ruin the entire story line.

Chook.

 

[Munky]

Time paradox's are the fastest way to f**k up a film, show or book.

I hope they keep this shit to an absolute minimum or it increases the potentail to ruin the entire story line.

Chook.

Do we know if it is a time paradox with Bran causing the seizure or if Bran was merely seeing the past with Willis having a vision of his future and that causing him to have the crazy fit. Visions of the future are not outside of previous things that have happened.

They did allude to Ned being able to hear Bran in a flashback but I'm hoping it's a case of Bran coincidentally seeing the past the same time it's happening in the future.

 

[Game_Breaker]

Do we know if it is a time paradox with Bran causing the seizure or if Bran was merely seeing the past with Willis having a vision of his future and that causing him to have the crazy fit. Visions of the future are not outside of previous things that have happened.

They did allude to Ned being able to hear Bran in a flashback but I'm hoping it's a case of Bran coincidentally seeing the past the same time it's happening in the future.

The whole incident needs to be further explained by GRRM, because the details are lacking.

I do think it's a time paradox, because it appears young Hodor did see Bran and looked shocked to see some random person appear out of nowhere like a ghost.

 

[Chook]

Do we know if it is a time paradox with Bran causing the seizure or if Bran was merely seeing the past with Willis having a vision of his future and that causing him to have the crazy fit. Visions of the future are not outside of previous things that have happened.

They did allude to Ned being able to hear Bran in a flashback but I'm hoping it's a case of Bran coincidentally seeing the past the same time it's happening in the future.

Wilis looked right at Bran, then rolled his eyes back and started yelling what what's her face was screaming at Hodor. That might be a coincidence in Robert Jordan's world, but GRRM's world that is a paradox. That said, "the past is written, the ink is dry" may well speak of the fact this particular paradox had to happen?

I just think time paradoxs are dangerous things in story lines as they can screw them up real quick.

Chook.

 

[saint.nick]

I think they're only dangerous when an author is running out of ideas and then throws it in because he's got nothing left. This has been a plot element ever since its whole conception, and I can't think of any better Hodor origin story. I don't think 'oh he got kicked by a horse' or 'he warged into a horse' is as meaty as this.

 

[Misanthrope]

It's not a time paradox. It's a closed loop.

The ink is dry. Bran didn't change the past because this had always been what happened. He just experienced it in the present.

 

[Timbo]

It's not a time paradox. It's a closed loop.

The ink is dry. Bran didn't change the past because this had always been what happened. He just experienced it in the present.

That makes it a Bootstrap Paradox, doesn't it? But I agree, it always existed, it was just a matter of where Bran experienced it.

 

[Game_Breaker]

It was always meant to happen, my question is why didn't the 3 eyed Raven know about it? Or did he know and he just had to let Bran f**k up like that

 

[chigurh]

Do we know if it is a time paradox with Bran causing the seizure or if Bran was merely seeing the past with Willis having a vision of his future and that causing him to have the crazy fit. Visions of the future are not outside of previous things that have happened.

They did allude to Ned being able to hear Bran in a flashback but I'm hoping it's a case of Bran coincidentally seeing the past the same time it's happening in the future.

That's the way I saw it - Bran was just seeing the past.

 

[Walt Flanigan]

It was always meant to happen, my question is why didn't the 3 eyed Raven know about it? Or did he know and he just had to let Bran f**k up like that

He may have known but maybe it was something that needed to happen.

 

[saint.nick]

Someone needs to go and slap that whining bitch on youtube Preston Jacobs. Gawwwwd.